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Does appear to be that lack of support when recovering from long term injuries especially when it's 50/50 on making a full recovery. Exact same thing happened with Clarke Carlisle who I believe was told at one point he'd be lucky if he walked again unaided.
Then you look at Ale Faurlin and his x3 ACL injuries and the way he appeared to stay so positive every single time he went through the ordeals. What a nutter.
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 13:48 - Mar 26 with 9893 views
I know he must be comfortably well off compared with most of us here, but I think the article makes his anguish clear. It would be so frustrating to be making good progress in your chosen career, then hit a massive metaphorical obstacle.
I hope he can put this injury nightmare behind him and go on to become a QPR legend.
"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 13:54 - Mar 26 with 9878 views
Depression isn't a mood its a chemical thing, doesn't matter how well off or comfortable you are in life.
QPR need to be listening to their players. Jack Robinson said exactly the same thing about loneliness and depression during his long lay off. Are we doing enough when players are out long term?
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 14:21 - Mar 26 with 9809 views
Can't help but feel, on a QPR level, that being so mentally fragile is extremely detrimental towards being able to succeed as a professional footballer, so my expectations of his future potential are dropping as i read all this stuff. Also, i wouldn't fancy his chances coping with a normal sh!t job and being skint like most people in the world, but there you are.
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 15:23 - Mar 26 by timcocking
My sympathies for him.
Can't help but feel, on a QPR level, that being so mentally fragile is extremely detrimental towards being able to succeed as a professional footballer, so my expectations of his future potential are dropping as i read all this stuff. Also, i wouldn't fancy his chances coping with a normal sh!t job and being skint like most people in the world, but there you are.
Difficult to cram that many misconceptions about what depression is into one paragraph but this is a brave effort.
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 15:28 - Mar 26 with 9634 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 13:36 - Mar 26 by smegma
Which probably explains him being those videos on holiday with JET.
I have to be honest mate, this kind of attitude belongs in the 1990s. I wouldn't utter sentiments like that at work if I were you. Got one of my members in a lot of trouble (TSSA).
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 15:48 - Mar 26 with 9567 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 15:23 - Mar 26 by timcocking
My sympathies for him.
Can't help but feel, on a QPR level, that being so mentally fragile is extremely detrimental towards being able to succeed as a professional footballer, so my expectations of his future potential are dropping as i read all this stuff. Also, i wouldn't fancy his chances coping with a normal sh!t job and being skint like most people in the world, but there you are.
I'm not convinced fragility comes into it. We push athletes from a young age, streaming them into ever more refined and competitive sporting structures, where one bad performance can see you lose your place and never regain it. And one mid to long term injury can change your whole career trajectory. Probably the best example I can think of is Dion Dublin. Got the big move from to Man Utd, just beginning to establish himself and he gets a bad injury. Ferguson replaces him and he never makes the impact he might have done. From that point on, he was an injury waiting to happen, a 'nearly man' who is too much of a risk to invest in.
Waking up every morning knowing your contract is running down and your options, both at this club and, by extension, every other club, are narrowing must be horrible. One of the major reasons for my own depression, anxiety and suicidal episodes was the fact that I was trying to go back in to work whilst still injured (2 x prolapsed discs), knowing full well that my bosses were counting up the days, making a case to get rid. It was like I could literally hear the clock ticking and I was helpless to stop it. It is not a fun place to be. It nearly cost me my marriage, family and life.
I joke about most things, even my own clinical depression at times, but for some people times like these are horrible to experience and in many cases the only effective treatment involves someone coming alongside to help you through it. It is less about fragility and more about feeling like your pain matters and that you still have some sort of value to others. This is half the problem with injured footballers: their worth can be calculated and commented upon, nationally, in financial terms, but to reduce a person to a series of numbers on a balance sheet dehumanises them. This, in turn, becomes internalised and the person in question sees no value in their existence. We all know how this ends, we've seen it before. I just want to believe that our club is better than that.
Selah.
'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 16:07 - Mar 26 with 9526 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 15:23 - Mar 26 by timcocking
My sympathies for him.
Can't help but feel, on a QPR level, that being so mentally fragile is extremely detrimental towards being able to succeed as a professional footballer, so my expectations of his future potential are dropping as i read all this stuff. Also, i wouldn't fancy his chances coping with a normal sh!t job and being skint like most people in the world, but there you are.
Danny Rose has a similar history yet played for England last night.
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 16:08 - Mar 26 with 9524 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 15:26 - Mar 26 by Northernr
Difficult to cram that many misconceptions about what depression is into one paragraph but this is a brave effort.
Unfortunately there are an awful lot of people who seem to think depression is moping about with a big sad face, feeling a bit down and a bit sorry for yourself, when what ‘these people’ should be doing is looking out their window at the £80k car on their drive and realising how lucky they are. Which is of course, an offensively misinformed and ignorant ‘understanding’ of something as complex as depression.
Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 16:11 - Mar 26 with 9514 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 13:48 - Mar 26 by R_from_afar
I know he must be comfortably well off compared with most of us here, but I think the article makes his anguish clear. It would be so frustrating to be making good progress in your chosen career, then hit a massive metaphorical obstacle.
I hope he can put this injury nightmare behind him and go on to become a QPR legend.
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 15:23 - Mar 26 by timcocking
My sympathies for him.
Can't help but feel, on a QPR level, that being so mentally fragile is extremely detrimental towards being able to succeed as a professional footballer, so my expectations of his future potential are dropping as i read all this stuff. Also, i wouldn't fancy his chances coping with a normal sh!t job and being skint like most people in the world, but there you are.
I've written many responses to this post, and deleted them. None of them were constructive or helpful.
So I'll just surmise - cop onto yourself
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 18:19 - Mar 26 with 9211 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 13:54 - Mar 26 by Northernr
Depression isn't a mood its a chemical thing, doesn't matter how well off or comfortable you are in life.
QPR need to be listening to their players. Jack Robinson said exactly the same thing about loneliness and depression during his long lay off. Are we doing enough when players are out long term?
Wasn't this supposed to be one of our specialities?
'Dr Misia Gervis, a leading sports psychologist who works at QPR, says support would benefit footballers in overcoming the mental side of long-term injury.'
'As a senior lecturer in the field at Brunel University she recently led a study into the use — or lack — of psychological support for players with long-term injuries in football.'
Good luck to him. He was one of our best players before his injuries. As others have said, seems to quite a problem with players that suffer with long injuries including one of our all-time greats Dave Clement.
On a far lighter note and not making fun of the subject but here's a song by the reliably foul-mouthed Kunt and The Gang.
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:13 - Mar 26 with 8863 views
I have no proper understanding of depression as i don't suffer from it but what i find concerning is that it seems to be on the rise, along with suicide. My 17 year old has 5 close mates of the same age, 3 of them(2 lads, 1 girl) are now on antidepressants. That's quite alarming at such a young age. I'm not trying to be controversial or anything and happy for anyone to correct me but does the use of medication just paper over issues? Could those issues or negative feelings that lots of teenagers get at such a young age potentially be resolved over time by learning to deal with them? We've all got different coping mechanisms i understand that but how does the GP or psychiatrist differentiate between individual circumstances?. I'm just a little sceptical about the rise in prescription drugs and the rise in depression and suicide. Maybe theres stats to show that suicide rates are going down with the sale of drugs going up, i dont know.? I hope its not like the antibiotics situation whereby the body just learns to tolerate it more and therefore the drug becomes less effective. I hope i'm not coming across disrespecting anyone dealing with depression. Genuine questions. I am guilty of being old fashioned in dealing with this stuff and my lad tells me i am. It just upsets me to see these youngsters struggling to cope and i do get a bit frustrated.
Occasional providers of half decent House music.
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:26 - Mar 26 with 8840 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:13 - Mar 26 by PunteR
I have no proper understanding of depression as i don't suffer from it but what i find concerning is that it seems to be on the rise, along with suicide. My 17 year old has 5 close mates of the same age, 3 of them(2 lads, 1 girl) are now on antidepressants. That's quite alarming at such a young age. I'm not trying to be controversial or anything and happy for anyone to correct me but does the use of medication just paper over issues? Could those issues or negative feelings that lots of teenagers get at such a young age potentially be resolved over time by learning to deal with them? We've all got different coping mechanisms i understand that but how does the GP or psychiatrist differentiate between individual circumstances?. I'm just a little sceptical about the rise in prescription drugs and the rise in depression and suicide. Maybe theres stats to show that suicide rates are going down with the sale of drugs going up, i dont know.? I hope its not like the antibiotics situation whereby the body just learns to tolerate it more and therefore the drug becomes less effective. I hope i'm not coming across disrespecting anyone dealing with depression. Genuine questions. I am guilty of being old fashioned in dealing with this stuff and my lad tells me i am. It just upsets me to see these youngsters struggling to cope and i do get a bit frustrated.
Mate my eldest girl has been suffering with it for 6 yrs and it is life destroying. There are no simple answers as every single case is individual. She is now 20 and cannot get up to uni up town by herself of an evening so me or my Mrs have to escort her. Antidepressants never worked for her and counselling is a long road which she is still travelling. Has effected the entire family unit since 2012.
It enraged me to read Tim Cockings dismissive comments above after I just spent 20mins having to bring my 20yr old first born out of a severe hysteria panic attack over an exam that is happening tomorrow night.
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:13 - Mar 26 by PunteR
I have no proper understanding of depression as i don't suffer from it but what i find concerning is that it seems to be on the rise, along with suicide. My 17 year old has 5 close mates of the same age, 3 of them(2 lads, 1 girl) are now on antidepressants. That's quite alarming at such a young age. I'm not trying to be controversial or anything and happy for anyone to correct me but does the use of medication just paper over issues? Could those issues or negative feelings that lots of teenagers get at such a young age potentially be resolved over time by learning to deal with them? We've all got different coping mechanisms i understand that but how does the GP or psychiatrist differentiate between individual circumstances?. I'm just a little sceptical about the rise in prescription drugs and the rise in depression and suicide. Maybe theres stats to show that suicide rates are going down with the sale of drugs going up, i dont know.? I hope its not like the antibiotics situation whereby the body just learns to tolerate it more and therefore the drug becomes less effective. I hope i'm not coming across disrespecting anyone dealing with depression. Genuine questions. I am guilty of being old fashioned in dealing with this stuff and my lad tells me i am. It just upsets me to see these youngsters struggling to cope and i do get a bit frustrated.
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:35 - Mar 26 with 8823 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:26 - Mar 26 by A40Bosh
Mate my eldest girl has been suffering with it for 6 yrs and it is life destroying. There are no simple answers as every single case is individual. She is now 20 and cannot get up to uni up town by herself of an evening so me or my Mrs have to escort her. Antidepressants never worked for her and counselling is a long road which she is still travelling. Has effected the entire family unit since 2012.
It enraged me to read Tim Cockings dismissive comments above after I just spent 20mins having to bring my 20yr old first born out of a severe hysteria panic attack over an exam that is happening tomorrow night.
So sorry you're dealing with this. I hope tomorrow is a better day for you all. I'm guessing you have to take each day as it comes?. Wish you and your family all the best mate
Occasional providers of half decent House music.
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Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:35 - Mar 26 with 8814 views
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:29 - Mar 26 by distortR
[Post edited 26 Mar 2019 23:38]
A caring nurse but obviously one who was not trained in mental health. Telling chemicals in the brain that they need to toughen up bit tends to not get too far down the road to recovery.
Grant Hall on his struggles with depression on 23:35 - Mar 26 by A40Bosh
A caring nurse but obviously one who was not trained in mental health. Telling chemicals in the brain that they need to toughen up bit tends to not get too far down the road to recovery.
just read your moving post and scrapped mine before | read this.
no 2 cases are the same, I really hope your daughter finds a way through this awful travail.
The fact she is still going to uni bears testament to her and her family.
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