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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) 22:59 - Apr 12 with 1366 viewsstainrods_elbow

Inspired by Clive Whittingham's exemplary form of 'loving hatred' for QPR in his Norwich report (and in no particular order):

1. The banal, Orwellian, reality-indifferent, intelligence-insulting bullshit spouted to fans to deny the evidence of their eyes, hearts and minds after phoned-in performances (step forward Messrs Hoos, Eustace, and others too numerous/tedious to mention)
2. Slowing the game down, running the ball into corner flags and doing anything but play football in the interests of fan-despising 'game management' (some sharp-eyed readers may already notice an emerging pattern here)
3. The impossiblity of taking corners without multiple incidents of holding/pulling/ fainting/biting (usually permitted by unfit for purpose referees)
4. The diabolically shit (sub)standard of said refereeing below the Premiership
5. The lack of accountability and/or cynicism of DoFs, CEOs and chairmen for their misguided appointments and reversals of same a few days/weeks/months later
6. All-seater stadiums and the destruction of atmosphere (now tragicomically reappropriated by clubs' sequestration of 'singing areas' - what Baudrillard might call the ironic revenge of the object)
7. The rebranding of said stadiums with aesthetically bankrupt non-names foisted upon them by foreign consortia, supermarkets and ring roads etc.
8. The evident lack of love of many players for the game, many of whom have ended up, (I'm sure insignificantly) playing for QPR (Zamora, Assou-Ekotto, Barton, Jones etc. etc.)
9. The satanic subversion of the live game by Sky
10. Inane music/jingles when goals are scored
11. The ticket prices, and justifications for same
12. The nasty/negligent/unfit for purpose stewarding
13. QPR's 'Family Stand' bollox
14. The disappearance of flair
15. The grim poetry of Stan The Man losing his mind.

To misquote Sylvia Plath, 'once one has been bummed in the gob, what is the remedy?'.

Over and out!
[Post edited 12 Apr 2019 23:01]

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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 23:44 - Apr 12 with 1292 viewsstowmarketrange

I agree with you on points 1-4.When you watch a game as a neutral,you can’t always see what one set of fans are appealing for,but you can easily see that everything that is given as a free-kick isn’t necessarily so.One set of fans want a red card for every challenge while the other set claim that your player has got the ball.
Was it ever this bad on all counts?

You also forgot to mention the amount of idiot fans who think the game revolves around them only,whether that includes missile throwing,invading the pitch or just pure racism,it really has to be stopped ASAP.

Modern day football really is getting to be sh@t.
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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 00:04 - Apr 13 with 1266 viewsstainrods_elbow

It's sociologically interesting that we are now seeing a (partly media-stoked) rise in incidents of threatening fan encroachment etc., which (like Baudrillard again) I read as an attempt on the part of fans to (sometimes dangerously) attempt to grab back a bit of the stage from their estrangement from the spectacle at the periphery. It isn't just a matter of 'a few idiots', which explains nothing, and is itself an idiotic non-interpretation. Rather, the more marginalised (or less 'participatory') fans feel, the stronger the drivers to refuse their sedentary alienation. The white line is, in reality, quite murky and more than a little ragged, like all thresholds.

It's not necessarily pretty, but, to amplify my point, the more stadia are sociologically engineered, for example, to be 'abuse-free' zones (however and by whomever that is defined), the more we'll see pockets of 'pushback' as spectator football is sublimated tribalism, as Desmond Morris argued years ago. The healthiest thing would be for fans to police themselves (if they want to, if they're able to) and grounds should ideally be allowed to 'find their own level'.

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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 00:06 - Apr 13 with 1265 viewsstainrods_elbow

On what grounds do you disagree with me on points 5-15?

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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 01:13 - Apr 13 with 1217 viewstimcocking

Agree with every point. Could have been written by me, that. If you want to, swap the word QPR for politicians/governments/solicitors/estate agents/health and safety/journalists and it'd still all be true.

Although i still love QPR. Try not to let the b@rstards get you down.

Ps Happy new year everybody, today is the first day of the year 2562 where i live.
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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 02:17 - Apr 13 with 1205 viewsahoz

Certainly agree with OP especially on 1-4.
Re point 10. I live in South Oz and went to Adelaide Oval last week for an AFL game. The carrying on before the game, with really loud music, loud advertising, flashing lights, etc, etc was like an absolute circus. Most of us, I would like to think, could do without all the nonsense, we just want to go along and enjoy a good footy game (regardless of code).
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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 07:35 - Apr 13 with 1075 viewsLblock

The answer to all of these can be found below:-

Ingredients to enjoy football
1. Take a group of 6 to 12 like minded lads
2. Place in pub 3 hours before kick off at room temperature
3. Add in numerous pints of lager and/or Guinness
(Note - you can alternatively use ale or spirits if you do wish)
4. Stir the mix with various pisstakes, stories of yesteryear and (if age and circumstances allow) any female conquests from Friday evening.
5. Half an hour before serving produce teamsheet via modern sorcery of iPhone
6. Forcibly dispute line ups and tactics proving individually your superior football knowledge
7. At last possible moment remove mixture from pub ensuring seat taken just before kick off
8. Switch off and zone out for approximately 100 minutes
9. Return leftovers to the pub
10. Repeat items 1. To 4. after again proving yourself in item 6. as to what you’d have done differently to ensure a win or a greater winning margin.

Flavour to your own taste and repeat 45 times throughout season after the first bake.
I personally enjoy it with a backdrop of good house or soul music but that’s of a discerning taste and hard to find these days.

It’s a proven method and would win any bake off hands down

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 07:54 - Apr 13 with 1042 viewsjonno

Agree with pretty much everything in the OP. Plus of course the "commercialisation" of the game where everything is designed to extract as much money from the punter as possible. This of course is not just related to football - watch how many TV programmes now incorporate "product placement" in an attempt to sell more sht that nobody needs to gullible viewers, "celebrities" who only appear when they have something to sell, ridiculous "phone/text in" questions to win a prize etc.
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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 08:34 - Apr 13 with 961 viewsQPROslo

Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 01:13 - Apr 13 by timcocking

Agree with every point. Could have been written by me, that. If you want to, swap the word QPR for politicians/governments/solicitors/estate agents/health and safety/journalists and it'd still all be true.

Although i still love QPR. Try not to let the b@rstards get you down.

Ps Happy new year everybody, today is the first day of the year 2562 where i live.


Happy Sonkran Day to you mate! Enjoy a good soaking, and 3 points this evening.
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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 08:59 - Apr 13 with 912 viewshubble

I think Baudrillard has your answer if consumption rather than production is the main driver of capitalist society.

But I have to say, seeing Baudrillard and Plath in one post on a football forum on a Saturday morning is more refreshing than a cold shower!
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Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 10:01 - Apr 13 with 853 viewsDorse

Why I hate pro football and its apologists (and/or falling out of love with QPR) on 07:35 - Apr 13 by Lblock

The answer to all of these can be found below:-

Ingredients to enjoy football
1. Take a group of 6 to 12 like minded lads
2. Place in pub 3 hours before kick off at room temperature
3. Add in numerous pints of lager and/or Guinness
(Note - you can alternatively use ale or spirits if you do wish)
4. Stir the mix with various pisstakes, stories of yesteryear and (if age and circumstances allow) any female conquests from Friday evening.
5. Half an hour before serving produce teamsheet via modern sorcery of iPhone
6. Forcibly dispute line ups and tactics proving individually your superior football knowledge
7. At last possible moment remove mixture from pub ensuring seat taken just before kick off
8. Switch off and zone out for approximately 100 minutes
9. Return leftovers to the pub
10. Repeat items 1. To 4. after again proving yourself in item 6. as to what you’d have done differently to ensure a win or a greater winning margin.

Flavour to your own taste and repeat 45 times throughout season after the first bake.
I personally enjoy it with a backdrop of good house or soul music but that’s of a discerning taste and hard to find these days.

It’s a proven method and would win any bake off hands down


On Point 4, we used to hold a Kangaroo Court in the pub on Saturdays whereupon the defendant would have to answer the charge of Habeas Porcus, to whit, that the defendant did, with phallus aforethought, cop off with member of the opposite sex whose pulchritude was dubious at best.

Hefty fines were enforced, usually resulting in a member of the judging council getting so drunk they'd be facing charges on the Sunday.

'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!'

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