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So, it looks like Boris Johnson will be named as next PM tomorrow. This country has hit rock bottom. If you think Theresa May was the worst, then think again.
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A day that will live in infamy on 22:26 - Jul 22 with 1796 views
A day that will live in infamy on 18:14 - Jul 22 by essextaxiboy
Carrying out sanitary tests on foods and livestock at points away from the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland;
Implementing Special Economic Zones to avoid disruption of cross-border communities, for example between Londonderry in Northern Ireland and Donegal in the Republic of Ireland;
Establishing a multi-tiered Trusted Trader programme, reducing the need for customs inspections of businesses accredited under the programme.
Basically taking steps to minimize inspections and doing them way back from the border.
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Doing border checks away from the 208 official border crossings is a long way from no hard border. And a long way from frictionless trade. Doesn't it breach the Good Friday Agreement, an international treaty lodged with the UN?
Trusted trader schemes may be an option, but it is only going to work for the larger companies.
What do you do about a road where you cross the border 4 times in 10 minutes (Clonmel-Cavan)? What do you do about 35,000 people crossing every day? What about businesses that straddle the border?
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the Earth all one’s lifetime. (Mark Twain)
Find me on twitter @derbyhoop
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A day that will live in infamy on 22:49 - Jul 22 with 1733 views
A day that will live in infamy on 22:33 - Jul 22 by derbyhoop
Doing border checks away from the 208 official border crossings is a long way from no hard border. And a long way from frictionless trade. Doesn't it breach the Good Friday Agreement, an international treaty lodged with the UN?
Trusted trader schemes may be an option, but it is only going to work for the larger companies.
What do you do about a road where you cross the border 4 times in 10 minutes (Clonmel-Cavan)? What do you do about 35,000 people crossing every day? What about businesses that straddle the border?
'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.
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A day that will live in infamy on 23:03 - Jul 22 with 1704 views
A day that will live in infamy on 10:52 - Jul 22 by Toast_R
Chruchill's botched Gallipoli campaign was a military disaster on a gigantic scale but he still came back into politics and and achieved a history changing moment. If he hadn't, where would be all be now?
As for Johnson, only time will tell if he makes a good leader. I am very fearful of a Corbyn lead Socialist government, you look at a lot of Countries that call themselves Socialists and there just seem to be a lot of chaos.
Was Churchill brilliant? Not so sure. Think Hitler foched up his masterplan. If and I'm glad he didn't wipe out you guys with a land assault it would have been very different. Stupid invasion of Russia and Africa. No need. Don't think Churchill was all that. Think the Nazis foched up. Gotta love that fight them on speech though. That was class
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A day that will live in infamy on 01:21 - Jul 23 with 1621 views
A day that will live in infamy on 00:19 - Jul 23 by bob566
Was Churchill brilliant? Not so sure. Think Hitler foched up his masterplan. If and I'm glad he didn't wipe out you guys with a land assault it would have been very different. Stupid invasion of Russia and Africa. No need. Don't think Churchill was all that. Think the Nazis foched up. Gotta love that fight them on speech though. That was class
The East Bengalis (amongst others) ain’t that keen.
A day that will live in infamy on 22:33 - Jul 22 by derbyhoop
Doing border checks away from the 208 official border crossings is a long way from no hard border. And a long way from frictionless trade. Doesn't it breach the Good Friday Agreement, an international treaty lodged with the UN?
Trusted trader schemes may be an option, but it is only going to work for the larger companies.
What do you do about a road where you cross the border 4 times in 10 minutes (Clonmel-Cavan)? What do you do about 35,000 people crossing every day? What about businesses that straddle the border?
What do you do about a road where you cross the border 4 times in 10 minutes (Clonmel-Cavan)? What do you do about 35,000 people crossing every day? What about businesses that straddle the border?
We have had a Common Travel Area Agreement with Ireland since 1922. Long before the EU and not dependant on either side membership of it .
A day that will live in infamy on 06:05 - Jul 23 by essextaxiboy
What do you do about a road where you cross the border 4 times in 10 minutes (Clonmel-Cavan)? What do you do about 35,000 people crossing every day? What about businesses that straddle the border?
We have had a Common Travel Area Agreement with Ireland since 1922. Long before the EU and not dependant on either side membership of it .
The CTA does not deal with customs, Essex, hence the negotiations on the border in a post-Brexit world.
"The Common Travel Area does not relate to goods or customs issues. The present movement of goods, the absence of customs posts on the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, and the absence of customs duties between the UK and Ireland comes from both countries’ membership of the European Union."
A day that will live in infamy on 06:05 - Jul 23 by essextaxiboy
What do you do about a road where you cross the border 4 times in 10 minutes (Clonmel-Cavan)? What do you do about 35,000 people crossing every day? What about businesses that straddle the border?
We have had a Common Travel Area Agreement with Ireland since 1922. Long before the EU and not dependant on either side membership of it .
We did indeed have the CTAA, but we didn't have the complication of one nation being a member of the EU, whilst the other wasn't. Ireland and the UK both joined the EEC on 1st January 1973.
Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts
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A day that will live in infamy on 06:53 - Jul 23 with 1545 views
A day that will live in infamy on 06:46 - Jul 23 by Konk
We did indeed have the CTAA, but we didn't have the complication of one nation being a member of the EU, whilst the other wasn't. Ireland and the UK both joined the EEC on 1st January 1973.
CTA? CTAA?
I love how the two countries can't even agree on what their agreement is called!
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
A day that will live in infamy on 07:22 - Jul 23 by BrianMcCarthy
We'll have the whole thing sorted by lunchtime, Konk.
PS. We're not taking Geldof back. This is non-negotiable.
In this new era of understanding and co-operation, that's fair enough, mate. As far as I can see, if we can just get everyone to agree not to take anything from the UK into the Republic that they shouldn't - and vice-versa, then we should be okay. Maybe something like the Scout's honour? To avoid the appearance of the re-imposition of a hard border, Border inspectors just wearing casual clothes and sitting around in deck chairs a few miles from the border, and as vehicles go past in either direction, get the driver to wind their window down and shout out, "I promise I'm not bringing anything in that I shouldn't be". It'd be practically seamless. Does that sound reasonable?
Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts
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A day that will live in infamy on 07:33 - Jul 23 with 1483 views
Good article. All his criticisms of Churchill are well-founded, but the author acknowledges the truth of the winning counter-argument instead:
"Churchill ended the war greatly diminished. He had been extremely popular during it, and would continue to be widely respected for his decision to fight, and his implacable energy in fighting."
Churchill saw the rise of Nazism as an existential threat very early, and at the time of the collapse of the Chamberlain government, he embodied the course of continued opposition to Hitler, while Halifax embodied a conciliatory approach to Hitler's demands. That resistance alone preserved a base from which to fight a Nazi-dominated Europe and ultimately prevented Hitler from winning the war.
I don't know about you, but that achievement allows me to forgive an awful lot and still hold the man in the very highest regard.
A day that will live in infamy on 07:33 - Jul 23 by Konk
In this new era of understanding and co-operation, that's fair enough, mate. As far as I can see, if we can just get everyone to agree not to take anything from the UK into the Republic that they shouldn't - and vice-versa, then we should be okay. Maybe something like the Scout's honour? To avoid the appearance of the re-imposition of a hard border, Border inspectors just wearing casual clothes and sitting around in deck chairs a few miles from the border, and as vehicles go past in either direction, get the driver to wind their window down and shout out, "I promise I'm not bringing anything in that I shouldn't be". It'd be practically seamless. Does that sound reasonable?
In most places on the planet that would seem naive and too trusting but - as people on both sides of the North-South border are known for their happy, slavish obedience to law - I can't see a problem with that.
I had ordered you coffee and a muffin for our mid-morning meeting, but I think we're done here. I'll send them to Geldof.
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
A day that will live in infamy on 07:44 - Jul 23 by BrianMcCarthy
In most places on the planet that would seem naive and too trusting but - as people on both sides of the North-South border are known for their happy, slavish obedience to law - I can't see a problem with that.
I had ordered you coffee and a muffin for our mid-morning meeting, but I think we're done here. I'll send them to Geldof.
Thanks, Brian. I'll let everyone in Whitehall know. Can I leave it to you to speak with the EU?
Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts
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A day that will live in infamy on 08:10 - Jul 23 with 1422 views
A day that will live in infamy on 18:14 - Jul 22 by essextaxiboy
Carrying out sanitary tests on foods and livestock at points away from the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland;
Implementing Special Economic Zones to avoid disruption of cross-border communities, for example between Londonderry in Northern Ireland and Donegal in the Republic of Ireland;
Establishing a multi-tiered Trusted Trader programme, reducing the need for customs inspections of businesses accredited under the programme.
Basically taking steps to minimize inspections and doing them way back from the border.
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And those have been agreed with the EU & Ireland?
Smells like a trout farm in here
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A day that will live in infamy on 08:10 - Jul 23 with 1421 views
A day that will live in infamy on 08:58 - Jul 22 by Esox_Lucius
If you think Corbyn would be a worse PM than Corbyn then you have been seriously brainwashed by MSM. Ask yourself why Corbyn has been the centre of one of the longest running, and most vicious character assassination campaigns ever seen conducted by the MSM.
LOL......... The BBC campaigning against Labour or anyone slightly right of Chairman Mao? And you call him brainwashed?
'I'm 18 with a bullet.Got my finger on the trigger,I'm gonna pull it.."
Love,Peace and Fook Chelski!
More like 20StoneOfHoop now.
Let's face it I'm not getting any thinner.
Pass the cake and pies please.
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A day that will live in infamy on 08:45 - Jul 23 with 1348 views
A day that will live in infamy on 08:45 - Jul 23 by peejaybee
Brian and Konk,May I ask do the pair of you have any dealings in football player transfers especially in goalkeepers.
You can never have too many keepers. Like the generation that grew-up with rationing, who now can't bear to see waste, I still live in fear of a 5'8" right-back having to take the gloves after an injury to our keeper. If it was up to me, we'd have at least four keepers on the bench.
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