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VAR is a blight on our game 20:47 - Oct 20 with 5494 viewsBlackCrowe

Watford robbed yesterday and man yoo's goal should not have stood today. So something that was designed to eradicate controversy is actually creating it.

Seemlingly a huge proportion of goals being referred to VAR. Referees don't have to referee any more. Fans can't properly celebrate in the moment of joy when the ball hits the net because the immediate reaction is to see if it gets referred to VAR. It's also an irritating name.

i truly hate it.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 20:49 - Oct 20 with 2019 viewsHooparoo

Agree. Slowly ruining our game

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VAR is a blight on our game on 20:52 - Oct 20 with 2010 viewscolinallcars

I suppose it'll rear its ugly head in the Championship soon. It will take its place along with game management and hopeless refs to ruin our simple pleasures.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 21:53 - Oct 20 with 1897 viewsqprxtc

VAR is like you’re having it away with your bird and just at the moment of ecstasy your mum burst in to tell you that you’re doing it all wrong because you snogged your bird the wrong way half an hour ago.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 22:12 - Oct 20 with 1870 viewsdistortR

VAR is a blight on our game on 21:53 - Oct 20 by qprxtc

VAR is like you’re having it away with your bird and just at the moment of ecstasy your mum burst in to tell you that you’re doing it all wrong because you snogged your bird the wrong way half an hour ago.


kind of explains your drinking, mate
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VAR is a blight on our game on 22:19 - Oct 20 with 1854 viewsPinnerPaul

All soooooo predictable

Fans/managers/media wanted a game without any refereeing errors - an impossible dream
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VAR is a blight on our game on 08:47 - Oct 21 with 1681 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Watched Man U v Liverpool yesterday and I got bored fairly quickly by the VAR-ness of it all.

Anything that makes Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher the headline act and not the actual players is a bad, bad thing.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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VAR is a blight on our game on 08:52 - Oct 21 with 1667 viewsTheChef

VAR is a blight on our game on 08:47 - Oct 21 by BrianMcCarthy

Watched Man U v Liverpool yesterday and I got bored fairly quickly by the VAR-ness of it all.

Anything that makes Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher the headline act and not the actual players is a bad, bad thing.


Just leave it at goal line technology - much less painless and far more accurate.

VAR feels like yet another modern invention that's poorly deployed and is there solely to wind people up and create more column inches.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 08:54 - Oct 21 with 1661 viewsNorthernr

I said it would be sht, and it is.

How is the disallowed Burnley goal at Leicester a foul, but the Liverpool one and the Watford penalty aren't? Personally not sure I'd have given any of them but you can't say a very slight clip on the ankle of a player who isn't reaching the ball is a foul on Saturday but not on Sunday.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:02 - Oct 21 with 1646 viewsRs_Holy

VAR is a blight on our game on 08:47 - Oct 21 by BrianMcCarthy

Watched Man U v Liverpool yesterday and I got bored fairly quickly by the VAR-ness of it all.

Anything that makes Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher the headline act and not the actual players is a bad, bad thing.


agree totally... I really, really, really hate the Premier League now and especially the 'dream team' of Tyler, Neville and Carragher. (Liverpools late equaliser meant Carragher probably didnt feel the need to spit on ManUre fans this season I suppose).
I hate the long drawn out over analysis of games, the constant drone of Nevilles voice, Tyler with his (probably got some sort of copyright) "and its LIVE" moniker.
Yesterdays game was the first Prem game I have watched this season (nothing better on TV) and couldnt agree more about VAR. It is bloody terrible and totally unworkable in its current format. The slightest brushing of the ball on someones hand means goal dis-allowed, the slightest contact means a foul, goal celebrations are cut short as the ref is asked to wait for the VAR review... It simply aint football anymore!
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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:05 - Oct 21 with 1634 viewsHooparoo

The true beauty of football is the immediacy and the release of someone scoring. Orgasmic ecstasy after all that frustration. VAR is like losing your erection half way through the act.

Surely the people who ultimately pay for it all, the omnipotent Gods of Sky will see it’s ruining the spectacle and can it ASAP.

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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:08 - Oct 21 with 1618 viewsblacky200

VAR is a blight on our game on 08:54 - Oct 21 by Northernr

I said it would be sht, and it is.

How is the disallowed Burnley goal at Leicester a foul, but the Liverpool one and the Watford penalty aren't? Personally not sure I'd have given any of them but you can't say a very slight clip on the ankle of a player who isn't reaching the ball is a foul on Saturday but not on Sunday.


Agree. All they have done is switch from a contentious refereeing decision to a contentious VAR decision and slowed the game down. In the Man U V Liverpool game there were (technically) illegal actions for both goals but one was allowed and one wasn't. A lot of VAR is opinion based technology whereas goal line technology is fact based. Get rid. I haven't spoken to a single supporter who likes it.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:09 - Oct 21 with 1616 viewskingo

VAR is a blight on our game on 09:05 - Oct 21 by Hooparoo

The true beauty of football is the immediacy and the release of someone scoring. Orgasmic ecstasy after all that frustration. VAR is like losing your erection half way through the act.

Surely the people who ultimately pay for it all, the omnipotent Gods of Sky will see it’s ruining the spectacle and can it ASAP.


The opposite unfortunately, var is ideal for armchair fans and gives their ‘experts’ loads to mull over. It is the mugs in the ground that are denied.

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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:10 - Oct 21 with 1611 viewsCamberleyR

I read somewhere that pre-VAR, referees got about 98.5% of decisions right so millions of pounds is being wasted ruining the game in the process to try to make it 1.5% better.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:23 - Oct 21 with 1580 viewsBlackCrowe

And you just know that the FA will be planning on monetising it, with each VAR pause, sponsored by Specsavers or some such.

hate.

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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:29 - Oct 21 with 1568 viewsjonno

VAR is a blight on our game on 08:54 - Oct 21 by Northernr

I said it would be sht, and it is.

How is the disallowed Burnley goal at Leicester a foul, but the Liverpool one and the Watford penalty aren't? Personally not sure I'd have given any of them but you can't say a very slight clip on the ankle of a player who isn't reaching the ball is a foul on Saturday but not on Sunday.


Absolutely. I said it would ruin the game and that’s exactly what it’s doing. It sort of works in a stop/start game like cricket but never in football. I don’t care about it in the PL because I never watch that but I really hope we never have it. It’s been ruining the rugby WC as well.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:47 - Oct 21 with 1535 viewsAntti_Heinola

VAR is a blight on our game on 09:08 - Oct 21 by blacky200

Agree. All they have done is switch from a contentious refereeing decision to a contentious VAR decision and slowed the game down. In the Man U V Liverpool game there were (technically) illegal actions for both goals but one was allowed and one wasn't. A lot of VAR is opinion based technology whereas goal line technology is fact based. Get rid. I haven't spoken to a single supporter who likes it.


This is exactly it isn't it? They said it would eliminate doubt. It doesn't. We have the same amount of controversy, if not more, and it takes longer and it ruins the immediacy of the game. It is absolutely awful and will never work, but there's sadly no chance they'll go back now. One thing Blatter had right was to resist it. Goalline tech is completely different, but everything else is a nonsense. Oh is my big toe offside? Is my knee a quarter of an inch further forward than the defender's knee? who the fk cares? If it's given, it's given, if it's not it's not. Live with it - this ludicrous delaying of decisions is a killer. Hate it.

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VAR is a blight on our game on 09:59 - Oct 21 with 1502 viewsterryb

I heard a lady reporter say on Sunday Supplement that when she attended a VAR briefing pre season the stated aims were:-

1) Eliminate wromg decisions

2) To uphold the match referee's authority.

These are a contradition if the referee is mistaken, but explains why hardly any decisions are overturned.

VAR is only bring used correctly to determine offside & handballs where goals are scored. Even then goals may be wrongly ruled out for offside as the referee blew his whistle before the ball entered the net (Villa earlier this season), due to our officials treating offside differently to the rest of the world.

It was not the fault of VAR that the Liverpool goal was disallowed correctly. That was down to the change of law this season that states you can't score a goal if the ball has touched the hand/arm of an attacker, even if accidental. Yes, I know those aren't the actual wording!

My problem with this law is that defenders can stop a goal by accidental handball, thus gaining an advantage!
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VAR is a blight on our game on 10:04 - Oct 21 with 1493 viewsPinnerPaul

VAR is a blight on our game on 08:54 - Oct 21 by Northernr

I said it would be sht, and it is.

How is the disallowed Burnley goal at Leicester a foul, but the Liverpool one and the Watford penalty aren't? Personally not sure I'd have given any of them but you can't say a very slight clip on the ankle of a player who isn't reaching the ball is a foul on Saturday but not on Sunday.


because as I have said before VAR isn't some mythical all seeing being - its just another referee who will have a subjective opinion like his colleague out on the pitch.

We will agree with some, not with others. VAR doesn't change that so not worth the delay, aggravation in my mind.

Only genuine corrections have been offsides that are often millimetres - again is all the hassle/time delay/discussion worth it just to correct the odd wrong decision and that's all it is.

As for the protocol and the Man Utd/Liverpool incident - despite my dislike of VAR - nothing wrong with that decision -some thought it a foul, some not - so evidently its NOT a clear and obvious error!

Can't agree about the Watford 'pen' though - he fouled him 3 times! There again the fact that you thought it wasn't a pen makes it not a clear and obvious error I guess!
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VAR is a blight on our game on 10:06 - Oct 21 with 1484 viewsPinnerPaul

VAR is a blight on our game on 09:47 - Oct 21 by Antti_Heinola

This is exactly it isn't it? They said it would eliminate doubt. It doesn't. We have the same amount of controversy, if not more, and it takes longer and it ruins the immediacy of the game. It is absolutely awful and will never work, but there's sadly no chance they'll go back now. One thing Blatter had right was to resist it. Goalline tech is completely different, but everything else is a nonsense. Oh is my big toe offside? Is my knee a quarter of an inch further forward than the defender's knee? who the fk cares? If it's given, it's given, if it's not it's not. Live with it - this ludicrous delaying of decisions is a killer. Hate it.


We agree on this one AH!!!!!
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VAR is a blight on our game on 10:06 - Oct 21 with 1481 viewsDannyPaddox

This nonsense needs to be snipped. Football needs a VARsectomy.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 10:06 - Oct 21 with 1480 viewssmegma

I think its ironic Liverpool moaning about decisions by referees when you think of all the poor decisions we've had against them. There was an article by Dave Thomas in AKUTRs about 25 years ago where he stated Liverpool had been given 16 penalties against us in 20 games played at Anfield. I remember them getting two in a night game up there one season, they missed one of them. I think it was the night Les got sent off as well. The worse decision ever in the history of poor refereeing decisions must be the League Cup semi final. Ian Dawes touches the ball on his thigh about a yard outside the box and the ref gave a pen.






Go to 3:55. Ian St John "if it did hit his arm, it was outside the box". When Barron saved the penalty Brian Moore reckons 'justice was done'.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 10:07 - Oct 21 with 1478 viewsPinnerPaul

VAR is a blight on our game on 09:59 - Oct 21 by terryb

I heard a lady reporter say on Sunday Supplement that when she attended a VAR briefing pre season the stated aims were:-

1) Eliminate wromg decisions

2) To uphold the match referee's authority.

These are a contradition if the referee is mistaken, but explains why hardly any decisions are overturned.

VAR is only bring used correctly to determine offside & handballs where goals are scored. Even then goals may be wrongly ruled out for offside as the referee blew his whistle before the ball entered the net (Villa earlier this season), due to our officials treating offside differently to the rest of the world.

It was not the fault of VAR that the Liverpool goal was disallowed correctly. That was down to the change of law this season that states you can't score a goal if the ball has touched the hand/arm of an attacker, even if accidental. Yes, I know those aren't the actual wording!

My problem with this law is that defenders can stop a goal by accidental handball, thus gaining an advantage!


Spot on Terry - no need to quote the actual wording!
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VAR is a blight on our game on 10:17 - Oct 21 with 1444 viewsloftboy

As far as I’m concerned it’s a clusterfûck. Totally ruined the games for those spectators that matter. The ones that actually pay to go to a game. Fûck the armchair fans,fûck the knobheads down the pub in their replica shirts that have never stepped inside a football stadium in their life and FÛCK Sky you complete and utter bunch of cûnts.

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VAR is a blight on our game on 10:18 - Oct 21 with 1445 viewsTHEBUSH

I don't mind VAR, as in my view, it makes the most controversial referees, less controversial.
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VAR is a blight on our game on 10:26 - Oct 21 with 1414 viewsHadders

I would prefer we didn't have VAR, players stopping trying to cheat and everyone cut officals more slack, but that's not going to happen in a hurry. In its defence, while VAR is not going to make decisions 100% accurate and controversy will remain part of the game, surely it will increase accuracy a bit - why wouldn't it? One thought I had though is that while it is mostly just the big decisions that get reviewed, as obviously reviewing everything would be a nightmare, yet actually a throw in given the wrong way, for example, in some sense effects everything else which happens afterwards.
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