| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss 23:29 - Nov 14 with 17691 views | QPR_John |
Labour have just announced free broadband for all implemented by nationalising part of BT. Just to be fair I do have an interest as I have BT shares bought through a sharesave scheme when I worked for them and also a pension from BT. Am I one of the rich Corbyn is after? [Post edited 14 Nov 2019 23:30]
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:02 - Nov 15 with 1771 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 16:47 - Nov 15 by essextaxiboy |
Yes like that only more personal. Access to certain websites denied or speed slowed down or withdrawn as punishment for protest etc and knock on the door at midnight for anti government online chat ...
You make my point actually , you found this on the web ,with state control it would be buried [Post edited 15 Nov 2019 16:49]
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You are mental 😆 |  | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:23 - Nov 15 with 1724 views | headhoops |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 16:42 - Nov 15 by DannytheR |
Not really a representative sample of people on here either to know either way. (Unless I'm missing all the people under 50?)
Pretty grim to see council housing equated with being lazy. Might want to keep that to yourself next time you're walking past people's homes on the White City to get to the football. [Post edited 15 Nov 2019 16:46]
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Where does it say people in council houses are lazy? Its the benefits culture, largely driven by the labour party, that I'm digging out. |  |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:24 - Nov 15 with 1722 views | gazza1 |
Its real sad that one of our 'so called' leading political parties come up with such a daft and unrealistic idea that they cannot have thought through. It will never happen.
The Tories and Boris aren't perfect but are streets ahead of Labour and Corbyn, John M and the rest of them. [Post edited 15 Nov 2019 17:27]
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:29 - Nov 15 with 1710 views | DannytheR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:23 - Nov 15 by headhoops |
Where does it say people in council houses are lazy? Its the benefits culture, largely driven by the labour party, that I'm digging out. |
Difficult to know where to start.
Don't have a go at people in council housing if you don't mean to have a go at people in council housing.
And whatever "benefits culture" is, you've had ten years of Tory government to sort it out.
Have a good weekend. Hope you never fall on hard times. |  | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 19:55 - Nov 15 with 1614 views | CaptainPugwash |
Arrrrrrrr....
Weppons grade vandalism by Corbin and McDonnell on Beetee share price today.
I wonders if enny Laber Party members sold shares prior to crash?
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 20:16 - Nov 15 with 1605 views | QPR_John |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 19:55 - Nov 15 by CaptainPugwash |
Arrrrrrrr....
Weppons grade vandalism by Corbin and McDonnell on Beetee share price today.
I wonders if enny Laber Party members sold shares prior to crash?
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Finished the day at 193 from 195 at the start so hardly a crash. [Post edited 15 Nov 2019 20:18]
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 20:29 - Nov 15 with 1588 views | Miss_Terraces |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:29 - Nov 15 by DannytheR |
Difficult to know where to start.
Don't have a go at people in council housing if you don't mean to have a go at people in council housing.
And whatever "benefits culture" is, you've had ten years of Tory government to sort it out.
Have a good weekend. Hope you never fall on hard times. |
Only 10 years? Seems much longer | |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 20:45 - Nov 15 with 1564 views | DavieQPR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 16:49 - Nov 15 by CliveWilsonSaid |
Surely Amazon, Google, Ebay etc (all American) stand to benefit most from this? So why shouldn’t they contribute? |
When Virgin Media, Sky, Talk Talk and every other Broadband service jumps ship , with massive redundancies, they will be reliant on a monopoly. Compensation levels set by a Labour controlled Parliament will make a lot of worried International companies leave Britain. Meaning more redundancies and less people to buy their goods. |  | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 21:40 - Nov 15 with 1518 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 20:45 - Nov 15 by DavieQPR |
When Virgin Media, Sky, Talk Talk and every other Broadband service jumps ship , with massive redundancies, they will be reliant on a monopoly. Compensation levels set by a Labour controlled Parliament will make a lot of worried International companies leave Britain. Meaning more redundancies and less people to buy their goods. |
There are McDonalds in Caracas and Hanoi. Multinationals don’t abandon profit. We are literally just doing what they are doing in South Korea, which by some is considered the most de regulated marketplace in the G20.
There will be no redundancies, because the industry (nationalised or not) needs them and is projected to grow in size. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss (n/t) on 21:43 - Nov 15 with 1516 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:28 - Nov 15 by Tonto |
I don't have a problem with the government being the owner/operator of essential utilities and transport networks. Broadband/internet access is essential in modern life. I don't understand how profit could be made out of water and air.
I think the cost of "reobtaining" these needs to be examined, although that does beg the question why they were privitised in the first place.
The other issue in this would then be the on-going management of the assets. Part of the problem in the past is that they were not particularly well managed and some organisations (British Rail anyone?) were grossly inefficient and not especially accountable. but in this day and age, that should be overcome easily enough |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 21:50 - Nov 15 with 1509 views | DavieQPR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 21:40 - Nov 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
There are McDonalds in Caracas and Hanoi. Multinationals don’t abandon profit. We are literally just doing what they are doing in South Korea, which by some is considered the most de regulated marketplace in the G20.
There will be no redundancies, because the industry (nationalised or not) needs them and is projected to grow in size. |
Labour have only promised to borrow £20 billion to buy Outreach not the rest. It's interesting to note that China and North Korea are among the few state run Internet countries and we all know about how that is run. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 21:59 - Nov 15 with 1502 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 21:50 - Nov 15 by DavieQPR |
Labour have only promised to borrow £20 billion to buy Outreach not the rest. It's interesting to note that China and North Korea are among the few state run Internet countries and we all know about how that is run. |
Labour arn’t running the internet for fck sake. They are just nationalising the infrastructure so they can extend it. The inventor of the Internet has proposed exactly what we are doing, leaving it free of profiteers.
Belgium and South Korea do exactly the same thing. The latter has 97% coverage for super fast broadband. We have 8%. [Post edited 15 Nov 2019 21:59]
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 22:20 - Nov 15 with 1477 views | QPR_John |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 21:59 - Nov 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Labour arn’t running the internet for fck sake. They are just nationalising the infrastructure so they can extend it. The inventor of the Internet has proposed exactly what we are doing, leaving it free of profiteers.
Belgium and South Korea do exactly the same thing. The latter has 97% coverage for super fast broadband. We have 8%. [Post edited 15 Nov 2019 21:59]
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Who will run it then as it will be a free service | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 22:44 - Nov 15 with 1453 views | CaptainPugwash |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 20:16 - Nov 15 by QPR_John |
Finished the day at 193 from 195 at the start so hardly a crash. [Post edited 15 Nov 2019 20:18]
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Narrrrrrrrrrrr...
Went down 3% on the noos this mornin' an recovered.Luvverly time to get in on the dip.Insider infermation be illegal.
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 01:08 - Nov 16 with 1416 views | PunteR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 06:28 - Nov 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Sorry mate, the NHS needs it more than you. You’ll have to live without your annual £6 dividend.
Don’t you think free and effective internet would be a nice gift to leave to your kids / grandkids? Especially considering it should have been theirs in the first place because you paid for it as a tax payer in the 1990s. [Post edited 15 Nov 2019 7:28]
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Free internet? like free water and free air? |  |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 08:20 - Nov 16 with 1349 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 01:08 - Nov 16 by PunteR |
Free internet? like free water and free air? |
So it sounds like a lot of people actually agree with this policy in principle. Just a bit sceptical whether the free bit would work. |  |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 09:41 - Nov 16 with 1310 views | colinallcars |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 08:20 - Nov 16 by CliveWilsonSaid |
So it sounds like a lot of people actually agree with this policy in principle. Just a bit sceptical whether the free bit would work. |
I wouldn't classify anything mentioned by either of the two largest parties in recent days as policies. It's more a case of anything they can think of to entice people to cast their votes for them come December 12th.
This is going to be the nastiest election ever. Were it not for the upcoming Rangers games, I'd bugger off abroad until the new year. |  | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 11:34 - Nov 16 with 1255 views | ozexile |
Plus took nearly 10 years to build at which time the technology was completely outdated.
No idea why the government should build something private companies will genefit from? | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 11:35 - Nov 16 with 1255 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 01:08 - Nov 16 by PunteR |
Free internet? like free water and free air? |
Free Internet, like free Healthcare and free Education. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:23 - Nov 16 with 1205 views | PunteR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 11:35 - Nov 16 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Free Internet, like free Healthcare and free Education. |
Dont we pay for that via tax? | |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:52 - Nov 16 with 1188 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:23 - Nov 16 by PunteR |
Dont we pay for that via tax? |
Yes, but no more than you pay now presuming you don’t earn more than £80k pa and even then it will be incremental so you still wouldn’t pay that much extra.
The rest of the slack will be taken up by big tech companies like Google and Amazon who currently pay a lower tax rate than you do.
Actually you are a chippy who gets paid cash in hand now and again so maybe not 😆 | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 14:08 - Nov 16 with 1163 views | PunteR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:52 - Nov 16 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Yes, but no more than you pay now presuming you don’t earn more than £80k pa and even then it will be incremental so you still wouldn’t pay that much extra.
The rest of the slack will be taken up by big tech companies like Google and Amazon who currently pay a lower tax rate than you do.
Actually you are a chippy who gets paid cash in hand now and again so maybe not 😆 |
My accountant is a QPR fan and sometimes reads this forum. Everything is accounted for.  | |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 14:13 - Nov 16 with 1161 views | WrightUp5hit___ |
Leaving aside the cost, ownership, damage issues.
If you live in a rural area with a 1mb a week service, and no mobile coverage, you can bet you would, should the unlikely come to pass, still be hanging on years later for improvements. With an official response of " we apologise and are doing all in our power to implement blah, blah blah." |  | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 14:17 - Nov 16 with 1159 views | headhoops |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:29 - Nov 15 by DannytheR |
Difficult to know where to start.
Don't have a go at people in council housing if you don't mean to have a go at people in council housing.
And whatever "benefits culture" is, you've had ten years of Tory government to sort it out.
Have a good weekend. Hope you never fall on hard times. |
You too Danny | |
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