| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss 23:29 - Nov 14 with 17684 views | QPR_John |
Labour have just announced free broadband for all implemented by nationalising part of BT. Just to be fair I do have an interest as I have BT shares bought through a sharesave scheme when I worked for them and also a pension from BT. Am I one of the rich Corbyn is after? [Post edited 14 Nov 2019 23:30]
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 14:51 - Nov 16 with 1984 views | QPR_John |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:52 - Nov 16 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Yes, but no more than you pay now presuming you don’t earn more than £80k pa and even then it will be incremental so you still wouldn’t pay that much extra.
The rest of the slack will be taken up by big tech companies like Google and Amazon who currently pay a lower tax rate than you do.
Actually you are a chippy who gets paid cash in hand now and again so maybe not 😆 |
"The rest of the slack will be taken up by big tech companies like Google and Amazon who currently pay a lower tax rate than you do. "
If it was only that easy | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 20:15 - Nov 16 with 1888 views | PunteR |
you know a thread is doomed once danny the arse starts posting. |  |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 22:45 - Nov 16 with 1834 views | QPR_John |
Free dental check ups now leading to a completely free dental service. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 00:34 - Nov 17 with 1799 views | Nov77 |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 00:49 - Nov 17 with 1778 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 22:45 - Nov 16 by QPR_John |
Free dental check ups now leading to a completely free dental service. |
I can't decide if you think this is a good thing or bad? |  |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:28 - Nov 17 with 1699 views | QPR_John |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 00:49 - Nov 17 by CliveWilsonSaid |
I can't decide if you think this is a good thing or bad? |
Why would I think it's a bad thing. I think free food for everybody is a good thing. I think free eye checks for everybody is a good thing.I think free housing for everybody is a good thing. I think free transport for everybody is a good thing. I think free TV for everybody is a good thing. I think free newspapers for everybody is a good thing. I think free energy for everybody is a good thing. I think free transport for everybody is a good thing. But the problem is I live in the real world [Post edited 17 Nov 2019 13:30]
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:56 - Nov 17 with 1678 views | CFW |
No point with this - all this bolloxs about free internet is never, ever going to happen. Even if and it is a very big if Labour win the election there would be so much legal fights going on with other providers making claims etc it would take years to action and by that time the country would be bust. Very easy to make claims making them happen is another story.
Nothing to see here - move on. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 15:14 - Nov 17 with 1639 views | BlackCrowe |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:14 - Nov 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
1) Parliament decided the price of nationalisation compensation not the market, even when the Tories have been forced to do it.
2) There will be no job losses. The jobs still need to be done. If anything this will create jobs as businesses will flourish in rural areas which were previously Broadband wastelands. By average estimates, a 10% increase in broadband availability results in 1% GDP increase in those same regions.
3) Yeah it is possible this won’t happen fully if you throw out Labour in five years time, but that’s the nature of democracy I guess. However the government which is most comparable to the one Labour wants is currently flying and has a economy that is growing: https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2018/03/europe-s-socialist-success-story-stra |
2) There will be no job losses. The jobs still need to be done. If anything this will create jobs as businesses will flourish in rural areas which were previously Broadband wastelands. By average estimates, a 10% increase in broadband availability results in 1% GDP increase in those same regions.
Does that include the thousand of those in sales and marketing for the current providers and also the thousands that work in similar agencies that support them? |  |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:19 - Nov 17 with 1581 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:28 - Nov 17 by QPR_John |
Why would I think it's a bad thing. I think free food for everybody is a good thing. I think free eye checks for everybody is a good thing.I think free housing for everybody is a good thing. I think free transport for everybody is a good thing. I think free TV for everybody is a good thing. I think free newspapers for everybody is a good thing. I think free energy for everybody is a good thing. I think free transport for everybody is a good thing. But the problem is I live in the real world [Post edited 17 Nov 2019 13:30]
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In his Marr interview this morning Corbyn said that it was only free dental checks that he was proposing. In his view it would save money as you would find problems earlier and therefore treat them more cheaply. | |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 18:23 - Nov 17 with 1543 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 15:14 - Nov 17 by BlackCrowe |
2) There will be no job losses. The jobs still need to be done. If anything this will create jobs as businesses will flourish in rural areas which were previously Broadband wastelands. By average estimates, a 10% increase in broadband availability results in 1% GDP increase in those same regions.
Does that include the thousand of those in sales and marketing for the current providers and also the thousands that work in similar agencies that support them? |
The ones usually outsourced to India you mean? The Labour Party and Trade Unions fought against outsourcing for years and I don’t remember anyone on here giving a fck. When it becomes a really tenuous barrel scraping stick to beat the Labour Party with people turn into Che Guevara.
Otherwise the National Broadband Service will still need all those departments you mentioned, in the same way the NHS or Highways Agency does.
Even if there was job losses (there won’t be) for every one lost I imagine quite a few would be created in rural areas. [Post edited 17 Nov 2019 18:35]
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 18:52 - Nov 17 with 1509 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:19 - Nov 17 by CliveWilsonSaid |
In his Marr interview this morning Corbyn said that it was only free dental checks that he was proposing. In his view it would save money as you would find problems earlier and therefore treat them more cheaply. |
This.
In every single case, preventative medicine is cheaper than reactive. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 19:13 - Nov 17 with 1493 views | Juzzie |
Not good news for the massive pharmaceutical companies |  | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 19:57 - Nov 17 with 1463 views | QPR_John |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 17:19 - Nov 17 by CliveWilsonSaid |
In his Marr interview this morning Corbyn said that it was only free dental checks that he was proposing. In his view it would save money as you would find problems earlier and therefore treat them more cheaply. |
What will be free all three bands or just band one [Post edited 17 Nov 2019 19:59]
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 20:40 - Nov 17 with 1437 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 19:57 - Nov 17 by QPR_John |
What will be free all three bands or just band one [Post edited 17 Nov 2019 19:59]
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I've no idea.
I'd estimate 1x free dental check per person per year would help get people through the door. | |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 22:00 - Nov 17 with 1384 views | QPR_John |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 20:40 - Nov 17 by CliveWilsonSaid |
I've no idea.
I'd estimate 1x free dental check per person per year would help get people through the door. |
You miss my point. If the basic check (band 1) shows further treatment is required who pays for it. Is the policy funded on £22.70 per person or the higher prices for bands 2 and 3. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 22:23 - Nov 17 with 1363 views | kensalriser |
Next some nutter will be proposing state controlled free roads. Fckn commies. |  |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 23:51 - Nov 17 with 1329 views | FDC |
Why can't everything just stay exactly as it is now, nice and shit? |  | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 23:55 - Nov 17 with 1322 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 23:51 - Nov 17 by FDC |
Why can't everything just stay exactly as it is now, nice and shit? |
Don't worry it will do. |  |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 01:11 - Nov 18 with 1306 views | PunteR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 22:23 - Nov 17 by kensalriser |
Next some nutter will be proposing state controlled free roads. Fckn commies. |
its not free though is it | |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 01:12 - Nov 18 with 1305 views | PunteR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 23:51 - Nov 17 by FDC |
Why can't everything just stay exactly as it is now, nice and shit? |
yeh like it has been since the dawn of time | |
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 07:00 - Nov 18 with 1263 views | distortR |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 13:28 - Nov 17 by QPR_John |
Why would I think it's a bad thing. I think free food for everybody is a good thing. I think free eye checks for everybody is a good thing.I think free housing for everybody is a good thing. I think free transport for everybody is a good thing. I think free TV for everybody is a good thing. I think free newspapers for everybody is a good thing. I think free energy for everybody is a good thing. I think free transport for everybody is a good thing. But the problem is I live in the real world [Post edited 17 Nov 2019 13:30]
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real world? they are all imposed realities in the end.
just depends which one you want to pin your flag to. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 07:58 - Nov 18 with 1243 views | FDC |
It's really striking how many posters on here would be the first to nostalgically hark back to past days of glory, the achievements of the past, great former generations etc. whilst simultaneously falling over themselves to tell us that in the present Nothing Can Be Done. Everything Is Impossible. | | | |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 08:03 - Nov 18 with 1241 views | FDC |
Your Broadband Communism team coming to install your full fibre connection
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| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 08:08 - Nov 18 with 1230 views | colinallcars |
| Government controlling the Internet - a good or bad thing discuss on 08:03 - Nov 18 by FDC |
Your Broadband Communism team coming to install your full fibre connection
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Nah, that can't be them, they haven't got snow on their boots. |  | | |
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