| Another cladded building fire in Bolton tonight on 23:21 - Nov 15 with 886 views | smegma |
I also hope everyone escapes safely otherwise the LFB will get blamed again. And people will vote this govt back in again. |  | |  |
| Another cladded building fire in Bolton tonight on 00:39 - Nov 18 with 670 views | Northernr |
Pretty clear what's going to happen here. There will be another major loss of life, or two, or three, before something is actually done.
In the 1980s you had unsafe football stadiums. Bradford, Hillsborough, Heysel, near miss at Hillsborough at the Wolves Spurs semi final, and so on. Oh it's the fans. Oh it's drunken yobs. Oh it's a unique set or circumstances. Nah, it's not, it's a systematic problem, and eventually, after many deaths, sweeping changes.
1980s and 1990s in the airline industry. United Airlines 811, TWA 800, Swiss Air 111. Many others. Planes brought down, people killed, by known faults, and shortcuts taken, where the industry had pushed back against the regulator and said "agh come on, it'll take us ages to fix this and it's expensive, let us have some more time".
1990s on the railways after the botched privatisation you had Ladbroke Grove, Southall, Hatfield, Potters Bar, all in a short period of time, and you can blame a driver here or a signalman there, but fundamentally the system of maintenance and safety was compromised, and trains would keep crashing until you did something about it. Post Clapham they said trains should have an automatic alarm to alert a driver if he'd skipped a red light - and yet it was a decade or more before they actually became standard, in which time many more lives were lost. I think we'll be lucky not to have a spate of these again, by the way, given the way the railways are being run by this government.
And now you've got this cladding issue. Lackenhall, ignored. Shepherd's Bush, ignored. grenfell, mired in a never ending two part inquiry which so far has pointed the finger at those known bastards - the fire bridgade. Round of applause for that judge, that'll sort it. Premier Inn at Bristol Causeway very quietly went up like a roman candle and burned to the ground in about 20 minutes earlier this year - zero coverage. Now this in Bolton. There are loads of blocks of flats still clad in this solidified petrol, which is scandalous enough, but basically every budget student block or hotel built in this country in the last decade is coated in this stuff. They've just finished redoing Hull Royal Infirmay - massive, grim, high rise, in this cladding. Just walk around and look. Look at every Premier Inn or Travelodge. Look at the student accom around Arsenal's ground. It's all absolutely coated in it. And what happens now when one of them goes up like a torch? "Well we can't be sure what caused it, can't be sure it's precisely the same type of cladding as Grenfell, not sure if the cladding had an effect, actually I think this cladding is more polyethelete 2.4 than polyethelete 2.34 which was a problem before so we shouldn't jump to conclusions." All designed to protect companies from the costly business of ripping this flammable sht down tomorrow. And we've now seen from Jacob Rees Mogg what the powers that be think - well you shouldn't have been so thick and uneducated as to live in such a place and do as the evil fire brigade told you. We're going to have a "bonfire of red tape". Pesky red tape, forbidding fly by night property companies whacking cheap sht up and coating it in plastic for a quick profit.
This will happen again. People will burn to death in their home, their student accom, their hotel or their hospital. It will happen again, and maybe again after that, before something palpable is actually done. It's how this world works.
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| Another cladded building fire in Bolton tonight on 06:56 - Nov 18 with 591 views | distortR |
| Another cladded building fire in Bolton tonight on 00:39 - Nov 18 by Northernr |
Pretty clear what's going to happen here. There will be another major loss of life, or two, or three, before something is actually done.
In the 1980s you had unsafe football stadiums. Bradford, Hillsborough, Heysel, near miss at Hillsborough at the Wolves Spurs semi final, and so on. Oh it's the fans. Oh it's drunken yobs. Oh it's a unique set or circumstances. Nah, it's not, it's a systematic problem, and eventually, after many deaths, sweeping changes.
1980s and 1990s in the airline industry. United Airlines 811, TWA 800, Swiss Air 111. Many others. Planes brought down, people killed, by known faults, and shortcuts taken, where the industry had pushed back against the regulator and said "agh come on, it'll take us ages to fix this and it's expensive, let us have some more time".
1990s on the railways after the botched privatisation you had Ladbroke Grove, Southall, Hatfield, Potters Bar, all in a short period of time, and you can blame a driver here or a signalman there, but fundamentally the system of maintenance and safety was compromised, and trains would keep crashing until you did something about it. Post Clapham they said trains should have an automatic alarm to alert a driver if he'd skipped a red light - and yet it was a decade or more before they actually became standard, in which time many more lives were lost. I think we'll be lucky not to have a spate of these again, by the way, given the way the railways are being run by this government.
And now you've got this cladding issue. Lackenhall, ignored. Shepherd's Bush, ignored. grenfell, mired in a never ending two part inquiry which so far has pointed the finger at those known bastards - the fire bridgade. Round of applause for that judge, that'll sort it. Premier Inn at Bristol Causeway very quietly went up like a roman candle and burned to the ground in about 20 minutes earlier this year - zero coverage. Now this in Bolton. There are loads of blocks of flats still clad in this solidified petrol, which is scandalous enough, but basically every budget student block or hotel built in this country in the last decade is coated in this stuff. They've just finished redoing Hull Royal Infirmay - massive, grim, high rise, in this cladding. Just walk around and look. Look at every Premier Inn or Travelodge. Look at the student accom around Arsenal's ground. It's all absolutely coated in it. And what happens now when one of them goes up like a torch? "Well we can't be sure what caused it, can't be sure it's precisely the same type of cladding as Grenfell, not sure if the cladding had an effect, actually I think this cladding is more polyethelete 2.4 than polyethelete 2.34 which was a problem before so we shouldn't jump to conclusions." All designed to protect companies from the costly business of ripping this flammable sht down tomorrow. And we've now seen from Jacob Rees Mogg what the powers that be think - well you shouldn't have been so thick and uneducated as to live in such a place and do as the evil fire brigade told you. We're going to have a "bonfire of red tape". Pesky red tape, forbidding fly by night property companies whacking cheap sht up and coating it in plastic for a quick profit.
This will happen again. People will burn to death in their home, their student accom, their hotel or their hospital. It will happen again, and maybe again after that, before something palpable is actually done. It's how this world works.
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the awful summerland fire that killed 50 peolple on the IOM in 1973 was largely down to cladding.
Not far off 50 years ago. | | | |
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