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Villa losses 13:37 - Mar 4 with 5621 viewsQPRSteve

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51738406

If they get relegated this year, are they in FFP trouble with the EFL?
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Villa losses on 13:55 - Mar 4 with 4131 viewsLblock

No of course they’re not!

Surely you’re aware that the rules are only clubs playing in W12 get slapped about big time????

Amazing that any “business” can spend a quarter of a billion pounds over 2 years when their turnover will only ever be a fraction of that.
How you swing from a £100mill loss to break even over 12 months is also the stuff of dreams. Perhaps they went for a Cali Cartel sideline operation to achieve that.

I hope they drop and give the EFL a decision to make. Can’t see them getting done though

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Villa losses on 14:07 - Mar 4 with 4066 viewsdaveB

If they come down they are in massive trouble, those losses are horrific
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Villa losses on 14:19 - Mar 4 with 4008 viewsthemodfather

so with ffp, the long established rich clubs are now untouchable. teams coming up have to invest and strengthen to try and stay up. i'd like to see man city, utd etc start from scratch with no budget.i dislike villa and wanted to see a more level playing field but it won't happen.
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Villa losses on 14:22 - Mar 4 with 3996 viewsHarbour

Please let it happen them and west spam...
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Villa losses on 14:36 - Mar 4 with 3931 viewsRANGERS4EVER

Considering the sheer amount of clubs completely ignoring all FFP rules these days, it does feel like we have been the only club so far to really feel the full effects of it.

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Villa losses on 14:43 - Mar 4 with 3906 viewsAntti_Heinola

apparently they'll get away with it according to david conn.
course they will.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/04/aston-villa-announce-69m-loss-d

Bare bones.

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Villa losses on 15:09 - Mar 4 with 3841 viewskensalriser

The separation and leaseback of stadium assets is going to end in tears for at least one club.

A dangerous trend and not because it gives a club a one off hit at evading FFP.

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Villa losses on 15:30 - Mar 4 with 3772 viewsLblock

Last game of the season?

The Claret & Blue Relegation Decider.
Nice.
Sky will be w@nking themselves to death over that one... possibly the richest ever relegation decider????
It'll never rival the Aguuuuerrrohhhhhhhh! moment of course, now THAT was a big decider.

My dream scenario would be they play each other, draw, and both go down with N'arich.

I reckon the Hammers will pull away though but here's hoping

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Villa losses on 16:21 - Mar 4 with 3620 viewsPinnerPaul

Villa losses on 13:55 - Mar 4 by Lblock

No of course they’re not!

Surely you’re aware that the rules are only clubs playing in W12 get slapped about big time????

Amazing that any “business” can spend a quarter of a billion pounds over 2 years when their turnover will only ever be a fraction of that.
How you swing from a £100mill loss to break even over 12 months is also the stuff of dreams. Perhaps they went for a Cali Cartel sideline operation to achieve that.

I hope they drop and give the EFL a decision to make. Can’t see them getting done though


Football isn't run like any other business - they spend what they earn & then some.

Even Leicester's latest accounts show a whopping loss despite turnover increasing year on year!
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Villa losses on 16:37 - Mar 4 with 3571 viewsQPR_John

Villa losses on 14:07 - Mar 4 by daveB

If they come down they are in massive trouble, those losses are horrific


Alternatively if they stay up they will agree a fine and if the FL are feeling really tough it might even be a couple of million.
[Post edited 4 Mar 2020 16:38]
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Villa losses on 18:11 - Mar 4 with 3353 viewsCroydonCaptJack

Villa losses on 15:30 - Mar 4 by Lblock

Last game of the season?

The Claret & Blue Relegation Decider.
Nice.
Sky will be w@nking themselves to death over that one... possibly the richest ever relegation decider????
It'll never rival the Aguuuuerrrohhhhhhhh! moment of course, now THAT was a big decider.

My dream scenario would be they play each other, draw, and both go down with N'arich.

I reckon the Hammers will pull away though but here's hoping


I agree about West Ham. Some tough fixtures but they will just about have enough. Naaarwich, Bournemouth and Villa for me.
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Villa losses on 18:14 - Mar 4 with 3342 viewsLeedsR

Villa losses on 18:11 - Mar 4 by CroydonCaptJack

I agree about West Ham. Some tough fixtures but they will just about have enough. Naaarwich, Bournemouth and Villa for me.


Would love that. Not particularly fond of Norwich, “moneybags” Bournemouth and Villa.
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Villa losses on 18:15 - Mar 4 with 3338 viewsSimplyNico

They have a get out of jail card in Grealish (which autocorrects to Freakish). On current PL valuations he is £40million+ after the season he has had.
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Villa losses on 21:09 - Mar 4 with 2990 viewsdavman

Villa losses on 18:15 - Mar 4 by SimplyNico

They have a get out of jail card in Grealish (which autocorrects to Freakish). On current PL valuations he is £40million+ after the season he has had.


Yep, but they won't stop spending and will arrogantly believe that they will go straight back up. They have cheated on the scale we cheated. Would love to see Justice Man and the Racist crash and burn with that horrible lot.

... But we all know that the EFL will do nothing meaningful to punish them...

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Villa losses on 22:15 - Mar 4 with 2879 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Sad lack of solidarity with other supporters here.

Why would anyone wish what we went through on other normal punters?

Fck owners, not fans.
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Villa losses on 22:35 - Mar 4 with 2849 viewsqueensparker

West Ham and Villa going down would be amazing - taken some cocky sh*t from fans of the pair of them for years and will be interesting to see how their “massive club” mentality take it, particularly Villa who will surely get annihilated by that set of accounts (the Conn piece doesn’t account for them going down).

Harsh to wish it on fellow fans but it’s the same rules for everyone - if we had to get f-cked then they can too. Especially the porn barons with the free stadium
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Villa losses on 00:52 - Mar 5 with 2724 viewstimcocking

I seriously doubt it...
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Villa losses on 06:35 - Mar 5 with 2618 viewsRoller

According to Villa's official website, almost £46million of their loss relates to promotion bonuses - £30million of that being paid to Randy Lerner, their previous owner. Swiss Ramble has previously estimated their disallowable costs as around £11million. If both of those are true, their loss for FFP purposes is "only" £12million. Remember, this is now the middle season in the three-year rolling period so a lot depends on how much they are losing this season in the Premier League.
[Post edited 5 Mar 2020 6:36]
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Villa losses on 07:44 - Mar 5 with 2559 viewsEastR

Villa losses on 06:35 - Mar 5 by Roller

According to Villa's official website, almost £46million of their loss relates to promotion bonuses - £30million of that being paid to Randy Lerner, their previous owner. Swiss Ramble has previously estimated their disallowable costs as around £11million. If both of those are true, their loss for FFP purposes is "only" £12million. Remember, this is now the middle season in the three-year rolling period so a lot depends on how much they are losing this season in the Premier League.
[Post edited 5 Mar 2020 6:36]


Promotion bonuses (players wages by another name) anex gratia payments to former directors won't qualify as being deductible expenditure for FFP

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Villa losses on 08:35 - Mar 5 with 2461 viewsTheChef

Villa losses on 22:15 - Mar 4 by BazzaInTheLoft

Sad lack of solidarity with other supporters here.

Why would anyone wish what we went through on other normal punters?

Fck owners, not fans.


Oh come on Baz this is football!

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Villa losses on 13:44 - Mar 5 with 2265 viewsTGRRRSSS

Villa losses on 22:15 - Mar 4 by BazzaInTheLoft

Sad lack of solidarity with other supporters here.

Why would anyone wish what we went through on other normal punters?

Fck owners, not fans.


We suffered and continue to do so.

Villa up to their necks in it

I reckon they can sell Grealish for £100m odd though so should be fine.

I still think we should sue EFL over all these cases.

IN the real world we would have done
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Villa losses on 14:07 - Mar 5 with 2212 viewsloftboy

The PL have approved the sale of the ground to the owners, more loopholes in football than any industry I can think of.
I reckon our fine will end up to be the only real punishment handed out to anyone.

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Villa losses on 16:06 - Mar 5 with 2107 viewsQPR_John

Villa losses on 22:15 - Mar 4 by BazzaInTheLoft

Sad lack of solidarity with other supporters here.

Why would anyone wish what we went through on other normal punters?

Fck owners, not fans.


What dose solidarity mean. We should not want these clubs to be penalised by the FL.
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Villa losses on 16:11 - Mar 5 with 2097 viewsCroydonCaptJack

Villa losses on 06:35 - Mar 5 by Roller

According to Villa's official website, almost £46million of their loss relates to promotion bonuses - £30million of that being paid to Randy Lerner, their previous owner. Swiss Ramble has previously estimated their disallowable costs as around £11million. If both of those are true, their loss for FFP purposes is "only" £12million. Remember, this is now the middle season in the three-year rolling period so a lot depends on how much they are losing this season in the Premier League.
[Post edited 5 Mar 2020 6:36]


I don't get that mate. Surely those costs aren't disallowable or everyone would do that.
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Villa losses on 16:29 - Mar 5 with 2058 viewsactonman

Villa losses on 16:06 - Mar 5 by QPR_John

What dose solidarity mean. We should not want these clubs to be penalised by the FL.


Solidarity ? Everybody else cheating the system while we have are pants pulled down with the rough end of a pineapple slowly inserted up the chuff . No solidarity from me .

The more clubs who get caught and penalised the better until the FL do away with “fair” play bllox and run the league sensibility rather than looking after the big clubs
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