| Trump 09:43 - Oct 27 with 114821 views | Hooparoo |
An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first. |  |
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| Trump on 13:05 - Nov 6 with 1669 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Trump on 11:42 - Nov 6 by BrianMcCarthy |
I think that Biden's policies on health and welfare will be right-wing. His record on crime and punishment is awful. His record on violence overseas shameful.
It shows just how bad Trump is that Biden is welcomed as his replacement.
But after three days and nights of watching CNN and MSNBC I can't see for the life of me how Sanders would have won. The U.S. seems to want right-wing policies and right-wing politicians and wants to believe that they're actually centrist.
Edit - That's not to say that Sanders should move to the centre or even that the British Labour Party should. You stick to your principles and you get better at convincing people that you are right. Any election won by selling your principles is worthless.
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What's he done overseas then? Not yet another war monger is he? |  | | |
| Trump on 13:14 - Nov 6 with 1628 views | wood_hoop |
| Trump on 13:01 - Nov 6 by SydneyRs |
That Australian professor - he's wrong.
You can get 12s on Trump now if you fancy it lol.
The figurehead of a very ugly and sad trend in politics over the last 5 years or so about to fall, you bloody love to see it.
Some decency still exists out there. |
With luck the trend may be waning of Trump and his ilk foisting their lies and yet more lies on people, note that Farage has finally stuck his head above the parapet again, good mate of Trump, with luck will eat into the Tory vote again. |  | | |
| Trump on 13:14 - Nov 6 with 1627 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Trump on 13:05 - Nov 6 by The_Beast1976 |
What's he done overseas then? Not yet another war monger is he? |
He was Vice President in a government that dropped more ordinance than any other government in the world since the Vietnam war. |  | | |
| Trump on 13:17 - Nov 6 with 1608 views | Phildo |
#AnnounceBiden FFS |  | | |
| Trump on 13:35 - Nov 6 with 1550 views | kensalriser |
Have patience. Biden will win 306 college votes. |  |
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| Trump on 13:48 - Nov 6 with 1518 views | francisbowles |
Basically it's four states to go, Trump needs them all and Biden is ahead in Georgia and Nevada. Nevada is the smallest with 6 ecv and that will be enough on it's own, for the Democratic candidate. | | | |
| Trump on 13:51 - Nov 6 with 1507 views | CamberleyR |
Biden just gone ahead in Pennsylvania. |  |
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| Trump on 13:52 - Nov 6 with 1505 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Trump on 13:14 - Nov 6 by BazzaInTheLoft |
He was Vice President in a government that dropped more ordinance than any other government in the world since the Vietnam war. |
Oh FFS. No wonder he is about to win. Installed by the weapons manufacturers who can get the country out to a good old war soon afterwards. That country is the biggest rogue state on the planet. A terrorist state. | | | |
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| Trump on 13:52 - Nov 6 with 1501 views | PinnerPaul |
| Trump on 13:01 - Nov 6 by SydneyRs |
That Australian professor - he's wrong.
You can get 12s on Trump now if you fancy it lol.
The figurehead of a very ugly and sad trend in politics over the last 5 years or so about to fall, you bloody love to see it.
Some decency still exists out there. |
One bookmaker has Biden at 1/1000 and Trump at 33s! | | | |
| Trump on 13:57 - Nov 6 with 1482 views | Northernr |
| Trump on 13:52 - Nov 6 by PinnerPaul |
One bookmaker has Biden at 1/1000 and Trump at 33s! |
I saw Biden at one point early one morning this week available more than 2/1, and a couple of Twitter accounts were urging people to get on, said it was like buying money because of the postal vote situation. Wish I'd listened! Although, of course, if I'd backed him, that really would have finished him off. |  | | |
| Trump on 13:58 - Nov 6 with 1476 views | qprd |
| Trump on 11:47 - Nov 6 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Sanders policies were hugely popular, but the perception of a socialist bogeyman might have brought him down. Even Biden was caste this way and it killed the Cuban / Venezuelan Golden exile vote in Florida.
Western politics all about perception over substance really and it’s a real shame. |
Special interests control American politics- and this has been made worse by the Supreme Court's bizarre Citizens United decision.
Effectively, special interests use certain confusing rhetoric, be it about guns, religion or socialism, to exploit the votes of white working class voters (who dont realize that they are voting against their own interests)
Think about this for a second
America went through an incredible financial crisis due specifically to the greed and risk taking of the 1%. That same 1% was bailed out by taxpayers, while none of the perpetrators faced any criminal consequences. Many of those same banks that received bailouts immediately proceeded to paying out crazy bonuses, declaring dividends, etc.
Obama came in after the financial crisis with majorities in the Senate adn Congress, and license to really reform the financial system and tax code and make it more fair.
Currently, the US taxes capital gains at a puny percentage like (15%-20%, considerably lower than UK)- companies like PE, hedge funs and venture capital funds have figured out how to mask their income as capital gains and pay 15% while people like teachers pay 30-40% of their salaries.... look at most CEOs of big companies... they'll make like $20m a year, but $1m will be in salary (and taxed at 40%) while the rest is treated as capital gains taxed at 15-20%....
When democrats floated the idea of increasing the capital gains tax even by 1-2 percentage points (which wouldve created billions of dollars for schools, infrastructure, healthcare etc, and wouldve come from basically the richest segments of the richest country of the world), these same special interest groups, through their mouthpieces, started floating the "socialism", "we're becoming venezuela" narrative, which sadly the uneducated segments of the population lapped up.
If the US couldnt even incrementally change the system after the financial crisis, i dont see how anything will change.... [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 13:59]
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| Trump on 14:05 - Nov 6 with 1428 views | Phildo |
one source calling it now
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| Trump on 14:10 - Nov 6 with 1411 views | derbyhoop |
Biden is ahead in AZ, NV and now in PA and GA.
That would give him 300 votes in electoral college.
Time for Trump to STFU and bow out gracelessly. |  |
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Find me on twitter @derbyhoop |
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| Trump on 14:14 - Nov 6 with 1402 views | Konk |
Interesting thread debunking a number of the alleged irregularities to date:
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| Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts |
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| Trump on 14:20 - Nov 6 with 1381 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Trump on 13:05 - Nov 6 by The_Beast1976 |
What's he done overseas then? Not yet another war monger is he? |
Huge cheerleader for the Iraq invasion. Huge. |  |
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| Trump on 14:27 - Nov 6 with 1350 views | GaryT |
Anyone got any video footage of Trumpers in Pennsylvania chanting "Stop the count!" and then switching to "count the votes!" when it turned blue?
(fingers crossed that it really happened) |  | | |
| Trump on 14:29 - Nov 6 with 1329 views | toboboly |
| Trump on 13:57 - Nov 6 by Northernr |
I saw Biden at one point early one morning this week available more than 2/1, and a couple of Twitter accounts were urging people to get on, said it was like buying money because of the postal vote situation. Wish I'd listened! Although, of course, if I'd backed him, that really would have finished him off. |
Joe Biden/Ched Evans |  |
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| Trump on 14:34 - Nov 6 with 1307 views | Match82 |
| Trump on 11:29 - Nov 6 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Yeah it is.
‘If Sanders had run against Trump he would’ve been annihilated’
Can I asked what this is based on and what centrism actually is policy wise? What does it offer people?
Biden’s election pitch of ‘not being Trump’ doesn’t seem like a tangible benefit to working class people to me. I don’t see how it gets uninsured people into full and decent healthcare, reduces home repossession, or cleans poisonous water in Detroit. [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 11:36]
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I read something pre election which suggested biden instead of sanders was about a one point swing. At that point they didn't expect it to matter. Now... Sanders would have won the popular vote but assuming that margin was the same across states would have lost a couple of key swing states (georgia being the obvious example given how close it is)
So not sure annihilated is the right word but he likely would have done worse and possibly to a degree where he would r have won the presidency |  | | |
| Trump on 14:34 - Nov 6 with 1307 views | Northernr |
| Trump on 14:29 - Nov 6 by toboboly |
Joe Biden/Ched Evans |
Biden hasn't bought that house in Sunbury for no reason has he? | | | |
| Trump on 14:35 - Nov 6 with 1300 views | Watford_Ranger |
Thank god for Jo Jorgensen whoever she is. | | | |
| Trump on 14:38 - Nov 6 with 1277 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Trump on 14:34 - Nov 6 by Match82 |
I read something pre election which suggested biden instead of sanders was about a one point swing. At that point they didn't expect it to matter. Now... Sanders would have won the popular vote but assuming that margin was the same across states would have lost a couple of key swing states (georgia being the obvious example given how close it is)
So not sure annihilated is the right word but he likely would have done worse and possibly to a degree where he would r have won the presidency |
I think Trump's PR would have hit Sanders hard, whereas it just bounced off the faceless Biden. | |
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| Trump on 14:39 - Nov 6 with 1272 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Trump on 13:52 - Nov 6 by The_Beast1976 |
Oh FFS. No wonder he is about to win. Installed by the weapons manufacturers who can get the country out to a good old war soon afterwards. That country is the biggest rogue state on the planet. A terrorist state. |
Yep. More concerning to me is why Wall St continue to fund him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/09/business/joe-biden-wall-street.html
As QPRD said, Western politics is stuck on a structural hamster wheel of corporate lobbying, media manipulation, and now it seems the use of the judiciary as a weapon. Any whiff of grassroots disruption to this (Corbyn, Podemos, Syriza, Momentum etc) are written off as unelectable, ‘Socialist’, cranks etc.
Even as I read what I just wrote I can feel the eyes rolling!
The answer? Look to countries with proportional representation and the tightest funding and media regulations such as the Scandinavian counties. | | | |
| Trump on 14:39 - Nov 6 with 1268 views | ted_hendrix |
Now the bar brawls can commence. |  |
| My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic. |
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| Trump on 14:42 - Nov 6 with 1244 views | The_Beast1976 |
| Trump on 14:20 - Nov 6 by BrianMcCarthy |
Huge cheerleader for the Iraq invasion. Huge. |
That's really what the world needs right now. Flippin' hell. Could be calling for Trump to come back if Biden goes off warmongering left, right and centre (there could actually be some truth in the rumours that the people who actually run things in the USA (the weapons manufacturers and financiers) have fixed things to get rid of Trump because he wouldn't dance to their warmongering tune. Who knows I guess | | | |
| Trump on 14:47 - Nov 6 with 1208 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Trump on 13:58 - Nov 6 by qprd |
Special interests control American politics- and this has been made worse by the Supreme Court's bizarre Citizens United decision.
Effectively, special interests use certain confusing rhetoric, be it about guns, religion or socialism, to exploit the votes of white working class voters (who dont realize that they are voting against their own interests)
Think about this for a second
America went through an incredible financial crisis due specifically to the greed and risk taking of the 1%. That same 1% was bailed out by taxpayers, while none of the perpetrators faced any criminal consequences. Many of those same banks that received bailouts immediately proceeded to paying out crazy bonuses, declaring dividends, etc.
Obama came in after the financial crisis with majorities in the Senate adn Congress, and license to really reform the financial system and tax code and make it more fair.
Currently, the US taxes capital gains at a puny percentage like (15%-20%, considerably lower than UK)- companies like PE, hedge funs and venture capital funds have figured out how to mask their income as capital gains and pay 15% while people like teachers pay 30-40% of their salaries.... look at most CEOs of big companies... they'll make like $20m a year, but $1m will be in salary (and taxed at 40%) while the rest is treated as capital gains taxed at 15-20%....
When democrats floated the idea of increasing the capital gains tax even by 1-2 percentage points (which wouldve created billions of dollars for schools, infrastructure, healthcare etc, and wouldve come from basically the richest segments of the richest country of the world), these same special interest groups, through their mouthpieces, started floating the "socialism", "we're becoming venezuela" narrative, which sadly the uneducated segments of the population lapped up.
If the US couldnt even incrementally change the system after the financial crisis, i dont see how anything will change.... [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 13:59]
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I don’t think it’s just the uneducated segments. Look at the clamour for beige more of the same politics from educated Liberals on this forum and society in general.
For as much as Tommy Robinson is portrayed as the bogeyman, more dangerous are the Alastair Campbells and James O’Briens who actually have their hands on the levers of power through their cultural affinity with the majority of journalists, politicians, and corporate influencers. They look and sound exactly the same as each other. One massive Waitrose sponsored circle jerk of non ideas. [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 15:03]
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