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Famous last words, he hasn't made a mistake yet so there's bound to be one soon and I hope I'm not pre-empting that, but thought he was worth his own thread...
Very nice to have a goalkeeper that doesn't terrify the life out of me again. Looking super confident and composed atm. Passes the ball better than some of our midfielders, good command of the area, and some amazing saves last few weeks.
His save today looked standard and many would say that it was straight at him but his speed off the line and his point of set-up was excellent.
I like him so far. But that's enough for now.
Edit - "for now" sounded begrudging. It wasn't meant to. Just that his performances have been very good but it's a small sample size and I'm wary of heaping pressure on players breaking through. Hugely encouraging, though.
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"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
His save today looked standard and many would say that it was straight at him but his speed off the line and his point of set-up was excellent.
I like him so far. But that's enough for now.
Edit - "for now" sounded begrudging. It wasn't meant to. Just that his performances have been very good but it's a small sample size and I'm wary of heaping pressure on players breaking through. Hugely encouraging, though.
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Exactly. I'm always parnoid about cursing players. But he's playing well and we shoud ackowledge that - we're quick enough to lay in when they're not.
Of course, Lumley kept four clean sheets in his first five games or something like that...
It's how he, and we, respond to the first mistake, and the first period where his form drops. That's what's killed Lumley, a dip turned into a slump and into a spiral.
Exactly. I'm always parnoid about cursing players. But he's playing well and we shoud ackowledge that - we're quick enough to lay in when they're not.
Of course, Lumley kept four clean sheets in his first five games or something like that...
It's how he, and we, respond to the first mistake, and the first period where his form drops. That's what's killed Lumley, a dip turned into a slump and into a spiral.
I think what did for Lumley was that kick in the face he took, never the same after that in my opinion.
I think what did for Lumley was that kick in the face he took, never the same after that in my opinion.
I've heard that theory. If I ever get the chance I'll ask him.
Personally think we overcomplicated his job, adding lots and lots of pattern of play and distribution stuff he wasn't capavle of doing, to players who werent capable of doing it either, causing mistakes causing loss of confidence causing crowd abuse and so on and on it spiralled.
We've had some excellent GK's at LR over the decades, almost been spoilt hopefully one day we'll be able to talk about Dieng in the same breadth. Confidence is 'key' when talking about GK's in my opinion. So far so good and no reason to think otherwise.
My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.
I've heard that theory. If I ever get the chance I'll ask him.
Personally think we overcomplicated his job, adding lots and lots of pattern of play and distribution stuff he wasn't capavle of doing, to players who werent capable of doing it either, causing mistakes causing loss of confidence causing crowd abuse and so on and on it spiralled.
Dieng, so far, can do that stuff no problem.
I agree.
Plus Dieng is playing behind a more defensive set-up than poor ol' Lumley .
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
I've heard that theory. If I ever get the chance I'll ask him.
Personally think we overcomplicated his job, adding lots and lots of pattern of play and distribution stuff he wasn't capavle of doing, to players who werent capable of doing it either, causing mistakes causing loss of confidence causing crowd abuse and so on and on it spiralled.
Dieng, so far, can do that stuff no problem.
Which just goes to show me at least how Lummers is - to put it kindly - a few sandwiches short of a picnic in goalkeeping terms.
The terrifying holes in his performances weren't really down to our playing 'out from the back', asking him to sweep or do challenging things like pass or throw a ball accurately to a team mate 20 yards away, though, albeit he wasn't very good at any of those things. They were down to crass errors of positioning, an inability to come and catch, dropping the ball at opponents feet, and failing to save shots nine out of ten Championship keeper would field. I hope he can reboot his career at lower levels, but I'm mighty relieved he isn't doing it at our expense for now at least.
Hindsight may well be approaching 20-20, but if Warbs Warbler had bedded in Dieng in a timelier fashion last season and the likes of Les, rather than telling us how talented he was, was escorting Joe humanely to the exit, I'd say we could have conceivably had a base for a playoff challenge when the team was flying. Now we don't have Eze to make it look, uh, easy, nor Huggers and Wells, we'll never know.
All of which is a perhaps rather embittered way of saying I like the cut of Dieng's jib too.
PS On a fashionably multiethnic note, we hear a lot about the lack of black manager/coaches, but anyone have a view on why are there so few black goalkeepers?
"PS On a fashionably multiethnic note, we hear a lot about the lack of black manager/coaches, but anyone have a view on why are there so few black goalkeepers?"
Perhaps because they are not stupid enough to want to stand around doing nothing for long periods of time. It was always said you had to me mad to want to be a goalkeeper!
Which just goes to show me at least how Lummers is - to put it kindly - a few sandwiches short of a picnic in goalkeeping terms.
The terrifying holes in his performances weren't really down to our playing 'out from the back', asking him to sweep or do challenging things like pass or throw a ball accurately to a team mate 20 yards away, though, albeit he wasn't very good at any of those things. They were down to crass errors of positioning, an inability to come and catch, dropping the ball at opponents feet, and failing to save shots nine out of ten Championship keeper would field. I hope he can reboot his career at lower levels, but I'm mighty relieved he isn't doing it at our expense for now at least.
Hindsight may well be approaching 20-20, but if Warbs Warbler had bedded in Dieng in a timelier fashion last season and the likes of Les, rather than telling us how talented he was, was escorting Joe humanely to the exit, I'd say we could have conceivably had a base for a playoff challenge when the team was flying. Now we don't have Eze to make it look, uh, easy, nor Huggers and Wells, we'll never know.
All of which is a perhaps rather embittered way of saying I like the cut of Dieng's jib too.
PS On a fashionably multiethnic note, we hear a lot about the lack of black manager/coaches, but anyone have a view on why are there so few black goalkeepers?
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Lumley looked great early on and had had, like dieng, very good loan spells. We can’t afford to cast promising players aside. At what stage exactly should the director of football publicly withdraw his support? Lumley has been dropped, seemingly isn’t having his contract demands met and his time in the side may have been key to protecting dieng from being put into the side too early and having his confidence ruined. And how is the sandwich comment putting it nicely?
Also, playing in an empty stadium, is a god send for a new keeper I reckon.
I agree, I think this a huge factor. Although to be fair both Lumley and Kelly got opportunities under lockdown too. I don't subscribe to the theory that Lumley was culpable for Coventry's first goal, but there is no denying that Dieng looks much more calm and assured. Hopefully,by the time crowds are back, he will be well established and the occasional blip won't lead to too much of a hard time
The thing that impresses me is his calmness. He never looks flustered.
Totally agree. You can see that resonates to the rest of the team and gives them an outlet that has been missing the last few years. Almost Ederson like at times.
'You didn't know that was wrong, but now you do. If you do it again, I'll know you are doing it on purpose.'
Lumley and Kelly are nowhere near as good as Dieng. Both had reasonable games and spells, but that was more down to percentages than any great talent I ever saw. Dieng is undisputed number 1 for me.
Oh Dieng doo be do We're in love with you, Dieng doo be do We're in love with you, Dieng doo be do We're in love with you. Dieng Dieng, with your hands so true Dieng Dieng, so safe in all you do Dieng Dieng, we're so in love with you
Exactly. I'm always parnoid about cursing players. But he's playing well and we shoud ackowledge that - we're quick enough to lay in when they're not.
Of course, Lumley kept four clean sheets in his first five games or something like that...
It's how he, and we, respond to the first mistake, and the first period where his form drops. That's what's killed Lumley, a dip turned into a slump and into a spiral.
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