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Not sure if already mentioned but beware of the situation at LHR T2 passenger drop off zone.
Was out there a couple of times and there were signs saying that charging would start from 1st Nov. However when I arrived there a couple of weeks back to drop off my cousin, although the signs were there there we no barriers or gates as you entered the area like you have at Luton or Gatwick or one of the actual car parks - so I naively assumed it had been delayed along with so many other projects at the moment.
Just got a £80 fine, £40 if I pay within 14 days through the letterbox.
I have challenged this because I think this is an unfit for purpose solution because it is a drop off zone not a car park, so the onus is for people to stop their car and go over and find a sign that tells you how to make a payment whereas everywhere else on site there are barrier controlled entrance and or exits to ensure you pay.
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Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 16:04 - Dec 3 with 5231 views
Same with all London airports. The only business that you have to pay to turn up to use their services. and you'd think they'd be wanting to encourage people back to airports. chancing w@nkers.
Fines in general for missing parking charges are a fcking pisstake. If you have the technology to identify a car through ANPR, why not send a invoice for the actual amount you would have had to pay instead of a massively inflated fine that most people can’t afford.
No, because you are greedy bastards who want a system that encourages failure because it’s profitable.
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Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 10:02 - Dec 4 with 4519 views
Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 08:44 - Dec 4 by BazzaInTheLoft
Solidarity.
Fines in general for missing parking charges are a fcking pisstake. If you have the technology to identify a car through ANPR, why not send a invoice for the actual amount you would have had to pay instead of a massively inflated fine that most people can’t afford.
No, because you are greedy bastards who want a system that encourages failure because it’s profitable.
I was about to post the same. A fine in this situation is totally unnecessary. It’s a new system and there will obviously be mistakes made like in this situation. Why not just send an invoice like you said explaining that there is a new system in place and you should of paid £5.
It’s another example of technology and systems not being used in the way the were meant to be. Instead just being used to exploit and rip people off. We’re just building a forced economy in this country and I hate it. It’s not just about the money it’s just plain wrong. It sets a bad example and leads to resentment and it’s the very people (authority) who should be setting us a good example doing it. It’s only going to get worse and it’s fcked up and I want out!
I vaguely recall from contract law studies years ago that NCP lost a case for failing to display their charges and terms and conditions of contract prior to entry to their car parks and as, has been mentioned in jest earlier, basically not displaying them prominently enough.
I am not sure what the signage situation was, but there might an issue under contract law that you have to be able to see the terms of the offer to agree to them. If these were not clearly displayed before you entered the zone and you had no choice to opt out so to speak prior to entering the zone it may give you some avenue to challenge. Its all about a reasonability test - would a reasonable person had been aware that they were entering into a contract by driving to the drop off area? Doesn't really matter what they put on a website, its more a matter of if on the day the situation would have been clear to a driver entering into the drop off zone.
The point about other airports arrangements could be important as you could argue exactly that point that other similar facilities doing this make it expressly clear what the arrangement is - LHR havent don't so.
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Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 11:49 - Dec 4 with 4407 views
....get dropped off at a long stay car park and get the free bus to your terminal!
Throw in the £69 just paid for my Day 2 test, it soon racks up. That Day 2 test dropped £30 since I was last back...some shithousery money making been going on here.
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There’s that famous (infamous) yellow junction box in Fulham/Parsons Green that rakes in £millions each year and was even subject to a terrestrial TV documentary. LBH&F just keep spouting the usual utopia bollox in how to use the junction properly completely failing (or more likely not wanting) to understand that however much you might do it properly others don’t and you end up fined because of them, a situation totally out of your control.
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Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 14:16 - Dec 4 with 4211 views
Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 14:43 - Dec 4 by BucksRanger
About as much as Karl Marx.
Bazza was making a jokey reference to Marx's theories on the nature of capitalism, which was somewhat germane to my point. Your post had absolutely nothing to do with either. Unless there was something I missed about drop off charges at Moscow airport.
Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 16:25 - Dec 4 by kensalriser
Bazza was making a jokey reference to Marx's theories on the nature of capitalism, which was somewhat germane to my point. Your post had absolutely nothing to do with either. Unless there was something I missed about drop off charges at Moscow airport.
There were no airport charges at Moscow airport the last time I used it but that was when Brezhnev ruled Russia and taxis freewheeled down hills to save on petrol. Mind you, the Russian elite had access to all the 'luxury' hotels whilst the average Russian worker layered their clothing and tied each layer with string to keep out the bitter cold... and, yes, I can imagine the UK heading down that route if comrade Bazza ever gets his way.
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Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 18:58 - Dec 4 with 3963 views
Heathrow T2 Drop Off Zone Charge - Fine on 16:25 - Dec 4 by kensalriser
Bazza was making a jokey reference to Marx's theories on the nature of capitalism, which was somewhat germane to my point. Your post had absolutely nothing to do with either. Unless there was something I missed about drop off charges at Moscow airport.
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