| Kill it to save it. 10:14 - Apr 2 with 1970 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Over the last 10 years QPR have frequently changed managers, and while GA's name was always on the list, no one really thought his chance was beyond a sentimental call by some; we weren't serious. Surely?
But as each season revealed further layers of repeated incompetence by the owners/DuFF and his coaches, it seemed with growing inevitability that one day, GA would end up manager.
Now we all knew what we were getting with GA; the big worry for me: did the owners?
The DuFF told me last week they care and every one is committed. Well Les, if, after 12 years of the Malays spunking the best part of a billion; 8 years of whatever the hell you've been doing; zero player development; poor signings all taking us to hoofball and desperate substitutions are what QPR consider as being the 'best' and 'committed', then it's gone.
I'm afraid sometimes in life, something needs to die first. I don't know who'd buy that monkey toss, but clearly it can't continue as is, so just eff them all off, let's suck it up and see what's left, and then restart again from scratch wherever that maybe.
QPR is unacceptable in its present form. We all know who's to blame: fatty fukwit Fernandes and the many appalling decisions he has made. The really frustrating thing is: many fans - from those of you who go to those of us looking in from afar - could all see this coming a long way off. And yet, those in charge never altered course.
Kill it to save it. I just cannot see any other route, especially now Ainsball route one ain't working anytime soon. We're losing £24m a year: waving farewell to the DuFF and many of his coaches; ceasing the practice of wasting money on underperforming loanees and signing the perpetually wounded will start reducing costs.
I know we've got a new training centre, but can we really afford to run several teams (for now)? If not, then no point coaching, running and fielding teams of players who aren't good enough to make the grade.
Installing someone with commonsense to run that club is the priority now. I really thought Amit was that man, but no resulting improvement has happened. I say sense, but also the football knowledge to know: with Uncle looking shot, you dont offer him a 2-year deal. Plus if what I've heard Jojo is on, then you say 'no' to the nanager because we can't afford it. Stopping the utter lunacy from the boardroom will help immeasurably.
Can't see any other way out then preparing now for the inevitable shit-show come mid-May.
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| Kill it to save it. on 11:30 - Apr 2 with 1759 views | bongo_king |
I understand the sentiment and agree with a lot of what you say. The problem with killing it is if the people don't come in to save it, it basically dies forever.
It does however feel like there has to, and will be a massive change this summer. The best thing the board did since coming in the door was bringing Warbs in, and the worst thing was shelving Warbs. Not because he's the second coming of Jesus, but the Warburton appointment brought three years of stability, putting an end to the circus of 2 manager changes a year / "let me scratch this itch and have <insert name> as manager" as we got progressively worse. And under a year since MW left, we're back to the incoherent, sinking merrigo round and "let me scratch this itch" thing. Basically, Warbs three years was the anomaly in the last ten.
We have to pray for the right change of the whole setup this summer, but based on the LT track record, odds are not in our favour... |  | | |
| Kill it to save it. on 11:36 - Apr 2 with 1737 views | Sonofpugwash |
Not dead,just sleeping. |  |
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| Kill it to save it. on 11:41 - Apr 2 with 1723 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Kill it to save it. on 11:30 - Apr 2 by bongo_king |
I understand the sentiment and agree with a lot of what you say. The problem with killing it is if the people don't come in to save it, it basically dies forever.
It does however feel like there has to, and will be a massive change this summer. The best thing the board did since coming in the door was bringing Warbs in, and the worst thing was shelving Warbs. Not because he's the second coming of Jesus, but the Warburton appointment brought three years of stability, putting an end to the circus of 2 manager changes a year / "let me scratch this itch and have <insert name> as manager" as we got progressively worse. And under a year since MW left, we're back to the incoherent, sinking merrigo round and "let me scratch this itch" thing. Basically, Warbs three years was the anomaly in the last ten.
We have to pray for the right change of the whole setup this summer, but based on the LT track record, odds are not in our favour... |
The problem with Warburton and Warnock is that they aren't yes men. If there's a problem, they'll bring it to your attention. The current regime doesn't like challenge; just keep every one nodding along like everything's hunky dory even when it isn't. I do wonder how the happy clappers are finding things at the moment - they've been telling us for years how we're on the right path, just about to 'do a Brentford'. Even when we're witnessing a 6-0 home defeat. Clap, clap. Getting bummed in the gob at Griffin Park every season. Clap, clap. Letting players leave for nothing, rather than millions. Clap, clap. If there's one good thing about our current run, it does seem to have united most fans into seeing it's a complete shitshow. | | | |
| Kill it to save it. on 12:01 - Apr 2 with 1675 views | Lblock |
Great post Mr Honney and sadly I agree.
I remained steadfast that Bungle would kill this club with my only surprise being it didn't take the 10 years I forecast.
These current incumbents are novices and clueless from top to bottom, that was palpable from day one and no amount of "leave them alone - they're learning" ever convinced me the outcome would be any different. It was clear they were NOT learning and never will.
The club is now a parrot in a Monty Python sketch.
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| Kill it to save it. on 12:24 - Apr 2 with 1617 views | BerkoRanger |
There's an awful lot of sense already posted on this thread.
It's a shame this is not a football club that has 2-3 season ticket holders who actually sit on and advise the Board. Theres a lot of commonsense football / QPR knowledge here just waiting to be used.
I'm one of those that thought that when the American guy joined the Board, it would mean new owners taking over - but that hasn't happened and it's been downhill from that point.
And I agree, a complete overhaul of the club is now essential. | | | |
| Kill it to save it. on 12:33 - Apr 2 with 1587 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Agree with everything since my OP.
Part of me thinks fans should boycott it, certainly away games. I know the club would bemoan such actions, but clearly unwavering support of thousands isn't working and QPR, if they don't already know, had better get used to the sight of blue seats at home and empty away ends come August.
Seriously, given cost, inconvenience and the opportunity to do more enjoyable things, what could you possibly get by way of value and entertainment schlepping to the next away day embarrassment? Folks deserve better than raised blood pressure and 90 minutes of angst wedged in between several expensive hours in traffic jams or delayed trains. | |
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| Kill it to save it. on 12:40 - Apr 2 with 1566 views | FrankRightguard |
Thing I can’t ever work out is what is the endgame for this lot? Hoos appears to have burned all bridges with H&F over the stadium so they won’t be able to flog the land LR is on any time soon. Are they tipping £2m a month into the place just because they’ve made such a horrendous job of running it over the last ten years? I doubt it.
We’re in a situation whereby we can’t live with them and can’t live without them.
Ainsworth was never the man to keep us up but he is an experienced operator in the league below with success on a limited budget. Is the aim here that we go down, they sack it off and we go into admin to clear the decks and start afresh? If that happens do we still have the FFP fine millstone round our necks?
Who knows what the answer is to any of this but what we can be absolutely certain of is that with the current owners and their propensity to get almost every single decision they make wrong, this ain’t getting better any time soon. |  | | |
| Kill it to save it. on 12:52 - Apr 2 with 1524 views | ted_hendrix |
We've been waiting too long for things to 'get better' In the vain attempt of believing that they will indeed get better when In actual fact they've got worse.
Sadly and as usual the bloody ship has sailed without us. |  |
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| Kill it to save it. on 13:14 - Apr 2 with 1468 views | kropotkin41 |
Much better imho opinion, to have a QPR with integrity and pride in ANY LEAGUE than this fatally flawed pile of rubbish. |  |
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| Kill it to save it. on 13:20 - Apr 2 with 1455 views | Rangersw12 |
Problem we have is that if the club died we would have about 3 phoenix clubs
I mean look how many "reps" we have at the club meetings for the size of the club | | | |
| Kill it to save it. on 13:21 - Apr 2 with 1446 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Kill it to save it. on 12:33 - Apr 2 by PlanetHonneywood |
Agree with everything since my OP.
Part of me thinks fans should boycott it, certainly away games. I know the club would bemoan such actions, but clearly unwavering support of thousands isn't working and QPR, if they don't already know, had better get used to the sight of blue seats at home and empty away ends come August.
Seriously, given cost, inconvenience and the opportunity to do more enjoyable things, what could you possibly get by way of value and entertainment schlepping to the next away day embarrassment? Folks deserve better than raised blood pressure and 90 minutes of angst wedged in between several expensive hours in traffic jams or delayed trains. |
I don't think the 750 or so hardy souls who go regularly to the away games would do that though. The ones who moan tend to be more fairweather fans like me lol. I'd be astonished if season ticket sales weren't down by about 25% next season though - notwithstanding the form, there's the cost and the fact that matches are more likely than ever to be moved around on a whim. | | | |
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