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Just noticed that York have recalled goalkeeper Rory Watson loaned out to Scunthorpe. He played in their last game beating Aldershot.
Interesting that Scunthorpe play in the FA Cup tomorrow away to Blackpool. We should be rested more perhaps giving us an edge.
Every little helps. [Post edited 31 Oct 17:23]
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Could be a defining game for our season
Fair amount of wet weather forecast between now and Tuesday, so first, get the game on
Email from the club with "1st v 2nd" received and if that doesn't get fan's blood up, nothing will
More importantly, it should get the player's blood up, so get out there and prove a point - or three. I'm sure the players get that, the only doubt remains whether the management will see it that way |  |
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Could be a defining game for our season
Fair amount of wet weather forecast between now and Tuesday, so first, get the game on
Email from the club with "1st v 2nd" received and if that doesn't get fan's blood up, nothing will
More importantly, it should get the player's blood up, so get out there and prove a point - or three. I'm sure the players get that, the only doubt remains whether the management will see it that way |
They seemed to against Carlisle and Forest Green. Biggest worry is the weather and how the pitch reacts. The club would do well to update supporters as they’d previously said. |  |
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They seemed to against Carlisle and Forest Green. Biggest worry is the weather and how the pitch reacts. The club would do well to update supporters as they’d previously said. |
Our away performances have been nothing short of outstanding, when the onus has been on the home team to take the initiative
We've also had some great results at home, but still feel our final hurdle is to be able to optimise our approach to games in front of our own crowd. That's the doubt, and having spoken to others about this, they feel the same
Tuesday's game is an opportunity to show the management have overcome the lack of guts (yes, guts) in taking the game to the opposition when it REALLY matters at home
Do so on Tuesday, and i'll be the first with the praise | |
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Our away performances have been nothing short of outstanding, when the onus has been on the home team to take the initiative
We've also had some great results at home, but still feel our final hurdle is to be able to optimise our approach to games in front of our own crowd. That's the doubt, and having spoken to others about this, they feel the same
Tuesday's game is an opportunity to show the management have overcome the lack of guts (yes, guts) in taking the game to the opposition when it REALLY matters at home
Do so on Tuesday, and i'll be the first with the praise |
As we haven’t played any home league games against sides in the play off places yet, you’re right, we still can’t say whether we will be able to get a result against one of those teams at Spotland yet. We definitely struggled last season against those above us, but did ok against those in the chase for the top seven at home. So it’s a case of wait and see on that specific.
In the home matches this season, we’ve been in the ascendancy most of the time. Especially from the start of games. The errors made in selection v Halifax impacted that, but the response with the subs should have seen us take at least a point.
The entertainment served up has been as good as regulars will have seen for nearly a decade, something many rightly said was crucial when it comes to increasing attendances. Winning obviously helps.
All we do know is we’ve shown we can go out and win against those around us, being dominant at Carlisle and the second half at Boreham Wood. So although the onus may have been on those teams to take the initiative, neither did due to our tactical approach. I actually thought Forest Green could have gone either way and attitude, guts and defensive ability got us a great win. If we’d conceded a late equaliser after sitting back to control the game, it may have been looked at differently. | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 19:49 - Oct 31 with 14288 views | EllDale |
I thought Halifax were in a playoff place when we played them the other week?
I posted something similar the other week about not playing tomorrow perhaps being an advantage but had it pointed out to me quite rightly that a team like Scunthorpe should be capable of playing two games in four days.
The opposite may be the case; our “first team” had the Saturday off before the Sutton game at the start of the season and played really sluggishly on the Monday. [Post edited 31 Oct 19:50]
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I thought Halifax were in a playoff place when we played them the other week?
I posted something similar the other week about not playing tomorrow perhaps being an advantage but had it pointed out to me quite rightly that a team like Scunthorpe should be capable of playing two games in four days.
The opposite may be the case; our “first team” had the Saturday off before the Sutton game at the start of the season and played really sluggishly on the Monday. [Post edited 31 Oct 19:50]
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Halifax were 10th before the game. They leapt to 6th with the win.
Last season, in a similarly enjoyable game, we won by the same scoreline. Dale were 6th and Halifax 7th at kick off. We moved to within six points of Forest Green at the top. [Post edited 31 Oct 19:59]
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Ah right, thanks! |
The table on page 29 in the Halifax TVOS shows they were ninth after the weekend fixtures, then dropped to tenth on the Tuesday. |  |
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As we haven’t played any home league games against sides in the play off places yet, you’re right, we still can’t say whether we will be able to get a result against one of those teams at Spotland yet. We definitely struggled last season against those above us, but did ok against those in the chase for the top seven at home. So it’s a case of wait and see on that specific.
In the home matches this season, we’ve been in the ascendancy most of the time. Especially from the start of games. The errors made in selection v Halifax impacted that, but the response with the subs should have seen us take at least a point.
The entertainment served up has been as good as regulars will have seen for nearly a decade, something many rightly said was crucial when it comes to increasing attendances. Winning obviously helps.
All we do know is we’ve shown we can go out and win against those around us, being dominant at Carlisle and the second half at Boreham Wood. So although the onus may have been on those teams to take the initiative, neither did due to our tactical approach. I actually thought Forest Green could have gone either way and attitude, guts and defensive ability got us a great win. If we’d conceded a late equaliser after sitting back to control the game, it may have been looked at differently. |
Thought I'd do a bit of stat hunting...
We've been at least two goals ahead at half-time in over half of our home league games so far this season.
Last season it happened four times in the entire campaign, so I thought I'd go back over the last 20 seasons (mainly because my records are complete for those!) to see how things look:
2006/07: 4 in 23 games
2007/08: 1 in 23
2008/09: 2 in 23
2009/10: 5 in 23 [promotion season]
2010/11: 3 in 23
2011/12: 1 in 23
2012/13: 3 in 23
2013/14: 4 in 23 [promotion season]
2014/15: 3 in 23
2015/16: 3 in 23
2016/17: 4 in 23
2017/18: 2 in 23
2018/19: 1 in 23
2019/20: 0
2020/21: 0 (relegation season]
2021/22: 1 in 23
2022/23: 1 in 23 [relegation season]
2023/24: 3 in 23
2024/25: 4 in 23
2025/26: 4 in 7 [to date]
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I thought Halifax were in a playoff place when we played them the other week?
I posted something similar the other week about not playing tomorrow perhaps being an advantage but had it pointed out to me quite rightly that a team like Scunthorpe should be capable of playing two games in four days.
The opposite may be the case; our “first team” had the Saturday off before the Sutton game at the start of the season and played really sluggishly on the Monday. [Post edited 31 Oct 19:50]
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Thought I'd do a bit of stat hunting...
We've been at least two goals ahead at half-time in over half of our home league games so far this season.
Last season it happened four times in the entire campaign, so I thought I'd go back over the last 20 seasons (mainly because my records are complete for those!) to see how things look:
2006/07: 4 in 23 games
2007/08: 1 in 23
2008/09: 2 in 23
2009/10: 5 in 23 [promotion season]
2010/11: 3 in 23
2011/12: 1 in 23
2012/13: 3 in 23
2013/14: 4 in 23 [promotion season]
2014/15: 3 in 23
2015/16: 3 in 23
2016/17: 4 in 23
2017/18: 2 in 23
2018/19: 1 in 23
2019/20: 0
2020/21: 0 (relegation season]
2021/22: 1 in 23
2022/23: 1 in 23 [relegation season]
2023/24: 3 in 23
2024/25: 4 in 23
2025/26: 4 in 7 [to date]
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Great stats
With the emphasis on taking games to the opposition at home when it REALLY matters (i.e. cup semi-finals, playoffs, derbies) the perception will remain the same... until it changes
Tuesday is a chance to start changing it | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday (n/t) on 21:56 - Oct 31 by D_Alien |
Great stats
With the emphasis on taking games to the opposition at home when it REALLY matters (i.e. cup semi-finals, playoffs, derbies) the perception will remain the same... until it changes
Tuesday is a chance to start changing it |
We took the game to Southend in the playoffs then threw it away with awful substitutions and a total lack of game management. As mentioned in the past, even after the poor choice of subs, it was the fact that we continued to be open and didn’t sit in that cost us. Hogan and the out of position Beckwith being especially exposed.
The derbies over the last two seasons at Spotland against Oldham, Altrincham and Halifax have been a mixed bag for sure. Four wins (inc. a cup quarter final) and two defeats.
But you’re right, it’s the next challenge. We’ve changed the perception of being boring to watch, not winning/scoring enough at home, not being adaptable in how we play, not beating the top sides, not dispatching the teams around the middle/bottom. Now we have to make sure we do well in home games against others looking like title challengers. | |
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Great stats
With the emphasis on taking games to the opposition at home when it REALLY matters (i.e. cup semi-finals, playoffs, derbies) the perception will remain the same... until it changes
Tuesday is a chance to start changing it |
They're more facts than stats, but that's akin to Greg Downs and Jimmy Graham fighting over a comb. | |
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They're more facts than stats, but that's akin to Greg Downs and Jimmy Graham fighting over a comb. |
Or who was the better left back. | |
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We took the game to Southend in the playoffs then threw it away with awful substitutions and a total lack of game management. As mentioned in the past, even after the poor choice of subs, it was the fact that we continued to be open and didn’t sit in that cost us. Hogan and the out of position Beckwith being especially exposed.
The derbies over the last two seasons at Spotland against Oldham, Altrincham and Halifax have been a mixed bag for sure. Four wins (inc. a cup quarter final) and two defeats.
But you’re right, it’s the next challenge. We’ve changed the perception of being boring to watch, not winning/scoring enough at home, not being adaptable in how we play, not beating the top sides, not dispatching the teams around the middle/bottom. Now we have to make sure we do well in home games against others looking like title challengers. |
Regarding the derbies and games that REALLY matter, it was an oft-missed point last season that we took 16 points off Altrincham, Gateshead and Halifax, when at one time some had us not even making the play-offs.
The likes of Barnet and York were too far away by the turn of the year (we were 12 points off the top at Christmas), so those five wins and one draw against three fellow play-off contenders (who were all above us at one time) were particularly crucial results at the end of the day. [Post edited 31 Oct 22:31]
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Or who was the better left back. |
Well one was the third best left-back in the country and the other one played for Coventry and Hereford. | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 08:53 - Nov 1 with 13541 views | Dale_4_Life |
The whole season could be derailed not on the pitch but not getting on it.
This weather forecast makes me nervous. Unless the club have a plan A and a plan B to protect the pitch until kick off I fear the worse. Marland Golf Course was flooded this morning and water streaming off the course into the valley.
I have no idea what the answer is hopefully covers deployed yesterday.. allow the sun on the pitch tomorrow until 5pm and then cover the pitch again until 6pm Tuesday afternoon.
My gut reaction is this could be the start of home postponements and losing ground on our promotion hopeful rivals.
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Or who was the better left back. |
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The whole season could be derailed not on the pitch but not getting on it.
This weather forecast makes me nervous. Unless the club have a plan A and a plan B to protect the pitch until kick off I fear the worse. Marland Golf Course was flooded this morning and water streaming off the course into the valley.
I have no idea what the answer is hopefully covers deployed yesterday.. allow the sun on the pitch tomorrow until 5pm and then cover the pitch again until 6pm Tuesday afternoon.
My gut reaction is this could be the start of home postponements and losing ground on our promotion hopeful rivals.
I hope I am wrong. |
Latest forecast has heavy rain kicking in from around midnight and continuing for about eight hours, then showers or lighter rain throughout the rest of Monday and Tuesday
This is going to be a real test for the club, and still only just into November. It's to be hoped some consultations with experts in these matters (that's none of us, btw) has been sought after the Southend postponement
As 442 says, an update from the club would go a long way with public relations, especially for those planning to travel some distance for what amounts to a test of our mettle | |
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Latest forecast has heavy rain kicking in from around midnight and continuing for about eight hours, then showers or lighter rain throughout the rest of Monday and Tuesday
This is going to be a real test for the club, and still only just into November. It's to be hoped some consultations with experts in these matters (that's none of us, btw) has been sought after the Southend postponement
As 442 says, an update from the club would go a long way with public relations, especially for those planning to travel some distance for what amounts to a test of our mettle |
I'd say that its 50/50 at the moment as to whether this game goes ahead. The only thing that makes those odds better would be less rain than is currently forecast over the next 60 hours.
The problem, not for the first time this season, is not necessarily the rain that is going to fall, but rather what we've already had. Up here in Norden there has only been one dry day since the 19th October. Unfortunately we have a pitch that currently struggles to drain even the slightest amount of water, so accumulated rain days, even if the rain hasn't been that heavy, cause huge problems. The expected 20 to 30mm of rain in the next couple of days isn't going to help at all.
I'm going to guess that the covers are down and have been since at least Friday. The forecast heavy rain early Saturday morning would have made that decision. The problem with the covers however is that, if I remember correctly, last time we were in this position, they hid the real problems until they were removed.
Hopefully, Tuesday's game goes ahead, but the club is going to be praying for long dry periods for the rest of the season. This pitch will be fit to play through evaporation out of the surface as much as drain down into the drainage system. Anything like our usual Pennine winter and there'll be serious disruption ahead.
I'm no expert on covers, but is there such a thing as a full tent like cover? That sort of thing, other than installing a roof, would surely help.
Perhaps I'm being overly negative and that the shortage of communication from the club on the issue is because there is no issue. | | | |
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I'd say that its 50/50 at the moment as to whether this game goes ahead. The only thing that makes those odds better would be less rain than is currently forecast over the next 60 hours.
The problem, not for the first time this season, is not necessarily the rain that is going to fall, but rather what we've already had. Up here in Norden there has only been one dry day since the 19th October. Unfortunately we have a pitch that currently struggles to drain even the slightest amount of water, so accumulated rain days, even if the rain hasn't been that heavy, cause huge problems. The expected 20 to 30mm of rain in the next couple of days isn't going to help at all.
I'm going to guess that the covers are down and have been since at least Friday. The forecast heavy rain early Saturday morning would have made that decision. The problem with the covers however is that, if I remember correctly, last time we were in this position, they hid the real problems until they were removed.
Hopefully, Tuesday's game goes ahead, but the club is going to be praying for long dry periods for the rest of the season. This pitch will be fit to play through evaporation out of the surface as much as drain down into the drainage system. Anything like our usual Pennine winter and there'll be serious disruption ahead.
I'm no expert on covers, but is there such a thing as a full tent like cover? That sort of thing, other than installing a roof, would surely help.
Perhaps I'm being overly negative and that the shortage of communication from the club on the issue is because there is no issue. |
Will keep banging this drum until the club actually do what they said they’d do nearly six weeks ago:
https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/pitchupdate220925/
“We also plan to provide a more detailed update on the underlying issues affecting the drainage of the pitch, and our continued efforts to mitigate them, in due course.” | |
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I'd say that its 50/50 at the moment as to whether this game goes ahead. The only thing that makes those odds better would be less rain than is currently forecast over the next 60 hours.
The problem, not for the first time this season, is not necessarily the rain that is going to fall, but rather what we've already had. Up here in Norden there has only been one dry day since the 19th October. Unfortunately we have a pitch that currently struggles to drain even the slightest amount of water, so accumulated rain days, even if the rain hasn't been that heavy, cause huge problems. The expected 20 to 30mm of rain in the next couple of days isn't going to help at all.
I'm going to guess that the covers are down and have been since at least Friday. The forecast heavy rain early Saturday morning would have made that decision. The problem with the covers however is that, if I remember correctly, last time we were in this position, they hid the real problems until they were removed.
Hopefully, Tuesday's game goes ahead, but the club is going to be praying for long dry periods for the rest of the season. This pitch will be fit to play through evaporation out of the surface as much as drain down into the drainage system. Anything like our usual Pennine winter and there'll be serious disruption ahead.
I'm no expert on covers, but is there such a thing as a full tent like cover? That sort of thing, other than installing a roof, would surely help.
Perhaps I'm being overly negative and that the shortage of communication from the club on the issue is because there is no issue. |
I do hope the game goes ahead. Already booked my travel and hotel - don't want to be out of pocket again. The club just needs to communicate what it is doing. They have identified a group of volunteers to help with the covers - surely they could tell us if they have been asked to pull the covers on over the past few days | | | |
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I do hope the game goes ahead. Already booked my travel and hotel - don't want to be out of pocket again. The club just needs to communicate what it is doing. They have identified a group of volunteers to help with the covers - surely they could tell us if they have been asked to pull the covers on over the past few days |
The covers don't work.
It's been dry ,sunny and windy today so pointless having it covered - oh and they dont work. [Post edited 2 Nov 14:23]
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The covers don't work.
It's been dry ,sunny and windy today so pointless having it covered - oh and they dont work. [Post edited 2 Nov 14:23]
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The covers obviously offer some protection, they wouldn’t have been bought otherwise (nor would other clubs have used them) but until the club update us with full information about what happened when the Southend game was called off, what lessons were learnt and what their future plans were, we can only speculate on what may happen next.
The current forecast on the Met Office site has heavy rain from 5pm on Tuesday and all the way through the game. As we saw last week, rain during a game has an impact.
With each hour that passes with nothing detailed from the club, any postponement/abandonment on Tuesday will draw deserved criticism. They can partly head this off by keeping supporters informed. | |
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The covers obviously offer some protection, they wouldn’t have been bought otherwise (nor would other clubs have used them) but until the club update us with full information about what happened when the Southend game was called off, what lessons were learnt and what their future plans were, we can only speculate on what may happen next.
The current forecast on the Met Office site has heavy rain from 5pm on Tuesday and all the way through the game. As we saw last week, rain during a game has an impact.
With each hour that passes with nothing detailed from the club, any postponement/abandonment on Tuesday will draw deserved criticism. They can partly head this off by keeping supporters informed. |
It could be the club will review the pitch tomorrow (during the working week) prior to providing an update
That's not to say that one isn't overdue, but all parties involved (groundsmen included) will be making a further assessment
The last people i'd expect to have any input is the Trust... | |
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