| tonight on 07:00 - Nov 6 with 2013 views | kernowhoop |
| tonight on 23:41 - Nov 5 by ted_hendrix |
Nobody was catching Scienza for their second goal, ran like fck from within his own half and planted the ball in the corner of our net. |
It was the sort of goal that Adel Taraabt might have scored, for us. |  | |  |
| tonight on 07:06 - Nov 6 with 1981 views | Gus_iom |
| tonight on 23:30 - Nov 5 by Hunterhoop |
Well, the comparison is to before he became fit again, not Ipswich, as he started that one too.
I don’t want this to get into a Chair debate. But it’s happened 4 times now that results worsen when he returns to the team after a bout out injured. It is weird.
We were better tonight than Ipswich. We deserved at least a point, if not all 3. The stats tell us that.
But it felt like we just huffed and puffed a lot.
39 crosses, most of which were cut back inside and out in an inswinger from 30/40 yards out. 58 clearances from Southampton. 61% possession. Lots of effort, few good moves and clear cut chances.
We’re still stuck in a spiral of not knowing our best team.
I’m pretty sure tonight was a conscious effort to play out from the back again. I’d love to know where that originated from. It resulted, eventually, in Mbengue falling over his feet and gifting them the first. |
We can't play out from the back, beat the press and break quickly, and we don't win headers when we go long, or when we cross the ball into the opposition's box.
I can see JS's dilemma, if not the answer. | |
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| tonight on 07:07 - Nov 6 with 1972 views | Paddyhoops |
| tonight on 23:25 - Nov 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
Well, I thought we were better tonight,.
So how were we worse? |
Thought we played ok this evening .
Poor defending costing us again and again . | | | |
| tonight on 07:18 - Nov 6 with 1924 views | QPROslo |
| tonight on 00:14 - Nov 6 by davman |
I was sick of that so much that I have started sitting in the School End Lower. So much more leg room than other parts of the ground and you barely hear let alone see the fun they are having.
They were pony. The shot their 'keeper saved in the first half (was it from Madsen?) Won them that game. We score first, we win.
BUT we didn't despite dominating the ball and having the chances... |
It was Madsen. Commentator said it was a defender who cleared it off the goal line but the Keeper may have got a hand to it. I thought Madsen was excellent both his defensive game and his accurate forward passing even under pressure at the back. Burrell was very good apart from his failure to convert his huge chance early on. RND good to. Thought we looked a much better team than we had out for Ipswich, played some good attacking football let down by the two defensive mistakes that cost us the goals. Madsen and Chair played a little better together, for example Madsen's great ball to him out from the back which Chair collected and moved forward again late on, but Chair still wants to hold onto the ball too much when others are better placed. | | | |
| tonight on 07:43 - Nov 6 with 1803 views | GaryBannister86 |
| tonight on 23:21 - Nov 5 by SK_hoops |
Imagine watching that travesty of a goal and clapping. Give me strength. |
Honestly, apologies if at the time I wasn't watching the defensive efforts of our midfield, but when I (and a few others) are directly behind the line and goal of a player curling it into the net with great quality, what's the problem? It was in from the second it left his boot.
I think Nardi's very iffy, but no amount of "footwork" would have kept that out.
Opposition players are allowed to score goals and if they are very good ones I think a resigned, half-hearted clap can show us to have a little decorum. Not expecting the stand to erupt in appreciation! |  | | |
| tonight on 07:52 - Nov 6 with 1754 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| tonight on 07:43 - Nov 6 by GaryBannister86 |
Honestly, apologies if at the time I wasn't watching the defensive efforts of our midfield, but when I (and a few others) are directly behind the line and goal of a player curling it into the net with great quality, what's the problem? It was in from the second it left his boot.
I think Nardi's very iffy, but no amount of "footwork" would have kept that out.
Opposition players are allowed to score goals and if they are very good ones I think a resigned, half-hearted clap can show us to have a little decorum. Not expecting the stand to erupt in appreciation! |
Disagree. We defended terribly for that goal and it also put us 0-2 down and consigned us to ANOTHER home defeat. And you want to clap the fella to show we have a little decorum?
Ronnie Edwards getting a much louder round of applause whilst warming up than any of our subs wasn’t a good look either IMO. |  | | |
| tonight on 07:57 - Nov 6 with 1725 views | GaryBannister86 |
| tonight on 07:52 - Nov 6 by Ned_Kennedys |
Disagree. We defended terribly for that goal and it also put us 0-2 down and consigned us to ANOTHER home defeat. And you want to clap the fella to show we have a little decorum?
Ronnie Edwards getting a much louder round of applause whilst warming up than any of our subs wasn’t a good look either IMO. |
Christ, Ned, I don't want to clap him. I don't want him to score. It was just an instinctive reaction to someone bending it in from 25 yards. Really don't see the problem. Maybe I should have proved my QPR credentials by being more like the bloke (or woman) who threw a meat pie at the Soton players for having the temerity to score a goal against us.
I will try and do better. | | | |
| tonight on 08:04 - Nov 6 with 1662 views | Phildo |
Don't post much these days but just checking in to see if Noury is still cooking?
Good job the set piece coach reports to him as the manager sorry coach would be getting pelters otherwise. |  | | |
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| tonight on 08:11 - Nov 6 with 1630 views | Sharpediver |
| tonight on 07:52 - Nov 6 by Ned_Kennedys |
Disagree. We defended terribly for that goal and it also put us 0-2 down and consigned us to ANOTHER home defeat. And you want to clap the fella to show we have a little decorum?
Ronnie Edwards getting a much louder round of applause whilst warming up than any of our subs wasn’t a good look either IMO. |
I wasn't there, watched it on my laptop in a pub in Edinburgh. Thought it was a good game, pretty much end to end, after a slow start by us. We should have been in front by half time, just poor finishing and decision making in and around the box letting us down. Yes, poor defending for both their goals, but credit to Southampton they capitalised on those mistakes well.
After that, thought we battled our way back into the game well and after Burrell's superb strike I was sure we were going to get at least a draw. You could see from the close ups of the Saints bench and faces of their fans how nervous they were as the game headed into injury time. We battered them but we just didn't get the rub of the green.
Overall, I thought we played very well and were extremely unlucky to lose. The context of having lost our last few matches just makes it feel worse. If we play like we did for most of last night we will be fine. We played some exciting, attractive football. [Post edited 6 Nov 8:16]
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| tonight on 08:47 - Nov 6 with 1482 views | stevec |
Interesting that the consensus seems to be that we played attractive football.
First 15 minutes were okay but after that I just sat there, bored.
Bored with the playing out from the back.
Bored with us playing down both wings knowing the cross will always always be cleared unchallenged by any one of half a dozen brick shithouses.
Bored with cameo midgets who will flatter to deceive every time they actually start a game.
It’s just the same old stuff that presents appalling sides, Southampton were embarrassingly bad, don’t think I’ve ever seen so many miss kicks, with 3 points for simply turning up. |  | | |
| tonight on 08:58 - Nov 6 with 1430 views | Malintabuk |
| tonight on 08:47 - Nov 6 by stevec |
Interesting that the consensus seems to be that we played attractive football.
First 15 minutes were okay but after that I just sat there, bored.
Bored with the playing out from the back.
Bored with us playing down both wings knowing the cross will always always be cleared unchallenged by any one of half a dozen brick shithouses.
Bored with cameo midgets who will flatter to deceive every time they actually start a game.
It’s just the same old stuff that presents appalling sides, Southampton were embarrassingly bad, don’t think I’ve ever seen so many miss kicks, with 3 points for simply turning up. |
Agree Steve... I sometimes think if I'm watching the same game... we was shocking last night
I'm getting fed up with this 2 man midfield... and Varane... im not sure what Field as done... p!ssed in JS escargot.... but how our best DM can't get a game in a losing team is beyond me
Last night was Millwall part 2 ... let's see how many times we can hit the head of Jack Stephens .... totally useless
What was it over 30 crosses into the area... not one won that I can remember.
As many I'm getting fed up with every club coming to our home and feeling if they don't beat us... it is a bad day at the office.
Get a manager in that will put the fear of God up them... get a team of brick sh!thouses as our spine... | | | |
| tonight on 09:01 - Nov 6 with 1398 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| tonight on 08:47 - Nov 6 by stevec |
Interesting that the consensus seems to be that we played attractive football.
First 15 minutes were okay but after that I just sat there, bored.
Bored with the playing out from the back.
Bored with us playing down both wings knowing the cross will always always be cleared unchallenged by any one of half a dozen brick shithouses.
Bored with cameo midgets who will flatter to deceive every time they actually start a game.
It’s just the same old stuff that presents appalling sides, Southampton were embarrassingly bad, don’t think I’ve ever seen so many miss kicks, with 3 points for simply turning up. |
Yes, the feeling of the crowd was generally boredom and frustration. I do agree that we could have won the game but that's football - don't take your chances, give soft goals away and you'll lose. And we lost to a team that have barely won in more than a year who sacked their manager at the weekend. I'm sure Norwich will have sacked Manning by the time we go there too - Nourry is in a difficult position as Stephan is his man, following his instructions (play the kids against Plymouth, don't play Kolli) and supposedly here because he knows how to manage three-game weeks... | | | |
| tonight on 09:19 - Nov 6 with 1310 views | joe90 |
| tonight on 07:18 - Nov 6 by QPROslo |
It was Madsen. Commentator said it was a defender who cleared it off the goal line but the Keeper may have got a hand to it. I thought Madsen was excellent both his defensive game and his accurate forward passing even under pressure at the back. Burrell was very good apart from his failure to convert his huge chance early on. RND good to. Thought we looked a much better team than we had out for Ipswich, played some good attacking football let down by the two defensive mistakes that cost us the goals. Madsen and Chair played a little better together, for example Madsen's great ball to him out from the back which Chair collected and moved forward again late on, but Chair still wants to hold onto the ball too much when others are better placed. |
I think we're seeing the benefits of Madsen's composure on the ball and ability to recycle possession. But there's only so much he can do!
I think our narrow shape didn't do us any favours. Dunne struggled with the overlapping runs and Dembele came inside leaving a huge gap. It improved when Morgan came on.
As I've said in another thread, I think JS has a good team to work with and don't think we're a lost cause. |  | | |
| tonight on 09:21 - Nov 6 with 1285 views | Telford_QPR |
Dembele should have taken one for the team for their second, he gets wrong side and then pulls away - take him down, yellow card but we re-group....pretty standard. |  | | |
| tonight on 09:26 - Nov 6 with 1258 views | OldPedro |
| tonight on 09:21 - Nov 6 by Telford_QPR |
Dembele should have taken one for the team for their second, he gets wrong side and then pulls away - take him down, yellow card but we re-group....pretty standard. |
This - Southampton took our players out a few times in the last 15 mins knowing that they would get a yellow |  |
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| tonight on 09:52 - Nov 6 with 1145 views | CateLeBonR |
| tonight on 07:43 - Nov 6 by GaryBannister86 |
Honestly, apologies if at the time I wasn't watching the defensive efforts of our midfield, but when I (and a few others) are directly behind the line and goal of a player curling it into the net with great quality, what's the problem? It was in from the second it left his boot.
I think Nardi's very iffy, but no amount of "footwork" would have kept that out.
Opposition players are allowed to score goals and if they are very good ones I think a resigned, half-hearted clap can show us to have a little decorum. Not expecting the stand to erupt in appreciation! |
Look mate it’s just how I saw it at the time. I’m not generally one to pick out players Nardi or anyone else but just a bit fecked off with the result I guess and having a vent. Having watched it back this morning the midfield and defence could have done more and perhaps Nardi’s positioning could have been better but it’s a well taken goal. Looking forward to this run of bad luck to end! |  | | |
| tonight on 10:10 - Nov 6 with 1084 views | TK1 |
| tonight on 06:33 - Nov 6 by Malintabuk |
06.15 at work... after getting home just short of midnight... and I'm still p!ssed off
Is there anyone in this club that actually knows what they are doing? Knob End... manager ......Paul Heckingbottom 4th... .....Stoke ...... Mark Robbins manager 2nd........ Millwall Alex Neil manager 5th..... Charlton (FFS) Nathan Jones ....6th
Us .... Inspector Clouseau..... 16th .....
And in all honesty I don't really blame JS.... I blame the muppets in charge... for too long they have ballsed up this club. How hard is it to see that, and i paraphrase to succeed in the "slop" that is the championship.... you need a manager that knows this league( see above).... most of the team units built like a brick sh!thouse, a midfield that dynamic and a pair of nippy bustards on the wing
What do we have... a team of lilliputians, goalkeepers that can't keep.... a defence that is in complete disarray ... because said goalkeeper can't keep
OK OK... we have a project... but for FFS if you want to succeed in the "slop" ... get a manager that knows what it takes... Charlton 6th.....FFS
Yes I'm still p!ssed |
Heckingbottom was appointed Preston manager in August 2024: finished 20th, we beat them home and away.
Robins was appointed in January, came 18th - three places below rubbish QPR.
Alex Neil is a very decent manager but Millwall are a magnificently-run club (comparatively) with an excellent DOF who should be doing the job at QPR. That's not about the manager. That's about the decisions our board have made appointing Nourry instead of Steve Gallen. Neil may well have been the QPR manager if SG had been given the job.
Nathan Jones is a horrible turd.
What the first two prove, though, is that if you give a manager more than three months of a season, and if they have anything about them, they'll come good. Still hopeful, based on the turnaround in that period after Coventry, that JS can come good. May take a season though. | | | |
| tonight on 10:16 - Nov 6 with 1047 views | DesertBoot |
A front four full of pace and trickery but the plan A was lump it long for Burrell to chase - absolutely mind-boggling. |  |
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| tonight on 10:19 - Nov 6 with 1024 views | Hunterhoop |
| tonight on 08:58 - Nov 6 by Malintabuk |
Agree Steve... I sometimes think if I'm watching the same game... we was shocking last night
I'm getting fed up with this 2 man midfield... and Varane... im not sure what Field as done... p!ssed in JS escargot.... but how our best DM can't get a game in a losing team is beyond me
Last night was Millwall part 2 ... let's see how many times we can hit the head of Jack Stephens .... totally useless
What was it over 30 crosses into the area... not one won that I can remember.
As many I'm getting fed up with every club coming to our home and feeling if they don't beat us... it is a bad day at the office.
Get a manager in that will put the fear of God up them... get a team of brick sh!thouses as our spine... |
According to the BBC, we put in 39 crosses (felt like almost all of them were after cutting back inside and clipping a floaty inswinger in), and Southampton made 58 clearances! 58!!
Very similar to Millwall. We dominated possession, territory, shots, xG, touches in box, BUT did we create many chances? Not really. Every ball in was comfortably pumped clear.
This tactic of stationing our wingers inside the oppo full back, between him and the centre half is infuriating. When Dunne or RND get it there is no one wide of them on the touchline to progress it to feet to. It means Smyth is playing with his back to goal (hardly a strength) and is rarely able to stand his man up to beat him on the outside. And it asks all our attacking width to come from the full backs, who aren’t exactly perfect for that role. AND it makes the middle of the pitch very congested, taking space away from Burrell, Kone, etc.
I actually thought RND was superb last night. Up and down the touchline, some great balls in, but why is it not our attacking wide players doing the attacking on the wing? I think the way we’re setting up positionally on the pitch and how we’re trying to play is hindering us as it is so easy to defend against. We don’t seem to have training ground attacking patterns in the final third. |  | | |
| tonight on 10:23 - Nov 6 with 998 views | gazza1 |
| tonight on 10:19 - Nov 6 by Hunterhoop |
According to the BBC, we put in 39 crosses (felt like almost all of them were after cutting back inside and clipping a floaty inswinger in), and Southampton made 58 clearances! 58!!
Very similar to Millwall. We dominated possession, territory, shots, xG, touches in box, BUT did we create many chances? Not really. Every ball in was comfortably pumped clear.
This tactic of stationing our wingers inside the oppo full back, between him and the centre half is infuriating. When Dunne or RND get it there is no one wide of them on the touchline to progress it to feet to. It means Smyth is playing with his back to goal (hardly a strength) and is rarely able to stand his man up to beat him on the outside. And it asks all our attacking width to come from the full backs, who aren’t exactly perfect for that role. AND it makes the middle of the pitch very congested, taking space away from Burrell, Kone, etc.
I actually thought RND was superb last night. Up and down the touchline, some great balls in, but why is it not our attacking wide players doing the attacking on the wing? I think the way we’re setting up positionally on the pitch and how we’re trying to play is hindering us as it is so easy to defend against. We don’t seem to have training ground attacking patterns in the final third. |
Amazing stats and we only get a goal from poor keeping and good play by Burrell.
RND was very good indeed, makes it even more strange why he did not start on Saturday!!!! He got the first thing right, work hard, and the rest will happen hopefully. | | | |
| tonight on 10:37 - Nov 6 with 936 views | nadera78 |
| tonight on 07:18 - Nov 6 by QPROslo |
It was Madsen. Commentator said it was a defender who cleared it off the goal line but the Keeper may have got a hand to it. I thought Madsen was excellent both his defensive game and his accurate forward passing even under pressure at the back. Burrell was very good apart from his failure to convert his huge chance early on. RND good to. Thought we looked a much better team than we had out for Ipswich, played some good attacking football let down by the two defensive mistakes that cost us the goals. Madsen and Chair played a little better together, for example Madsen's great ball to him out from the back which Chair collected and moved forward again late on, but Chair still wants to hold onto the ball too much when others are better placed. |
Southampton allowed us to have lots of space in the middle third (probably explains why they were 4th bottom before kick off), which in turn allowed us to pass the ball a little in that part of the field. That meant we looked a little bit better than we did against Ipswich, but we didn't actually do anything with the ball. It was completely ineffective. Same could be said of them to be fair.
I thought it was a really poor standard game. | | | |
| tonight on 10:38 - Nov 6 with 922 views | TK1 |
I think having a fully-fit squad has been disaster and it's no coincidence that form has fallen off a cliff with everyone fit.
It proves that the squad is too big and too samey, presenting Hobson's Choices for the manager in too many positions. There are too many players who must assume they're first choices who find themselves on the bench or not even making the squad: the vibes will be not good when we're losing, there will be bitching that seeps through...Definitely need some outgoings where possible in Jan.
Some other things that I feel need to addressed by JS (and I think will be):
1/ managers often say that football is about building relationships on the pitch. The constant rotation of the squad renders that impossible. I don't think you can keep changing the central defenders and central midfielders and expect to get any rhythm. Need a core of six or seven who always play if fit.
2/ we've got a squad overloaded with tricksy, tiny wingers/10s, none of whom get enough minutes to gain momentum. We'd win any 7-a-side tournament. But both goals last night could have been prevented with a gratuitous foul early in the move, the kind of take one for the team foul that Sam Field used to collect every week. It's so important to have that kind of selfless team-player, the kind who may not be great at the 7-a-side triangle football but who will track a runner from deep and trip him up just he's about to shoot. Collect a yellow card for deliberate fouls, lads.
Every great QPR team I have seen had that player in midfield that the modern-day vocal social media fans would hate but who was absolutely crucial: Leach, Waddock, Holloway, Bircham, Derry...without them Bowles, Currie, Wilkins, Wegerle, Faurlin, Taraabt don't get to glide around with the ball at their feet. We need a dirty wind-up pig in midfield if we're playing Saito, Chair and Madsen ahead of them. | | | |
| tonight on 10:46 - Nov 6 with 861 views | TheChef |
| tonight on 22:35 - Nov 5 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Struggling to see what he brings tbh. Claps everything like an inane wind-up doll. Apparently brought in because he could manage three-game weeks. Two clueless home defeats with a sound thrashing to come on Saturday. Only at QPR. |
Still can't believe that since 2015 people haven't realised - it doesn't matter who the manager, the players, the backroom staff are, we still serve up inconsistent dross. Season in, season out. |  |
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| tonight on 10:46 - Nov 6 with 860 views | Hunterhoop |
| tonight on 10:38 - Nov 6 by TK1 |
I think having a fully-fit squad has been disaster and it's no coincidence that form has fallen off a cliff with everyone fit.
It proves that the squad is too big and too samey, presenting Hobson's Choices for the manager in too many positions. There are too many players who must assume they're first choices who find themselves on the bench or not even making the squad: the vibes will be not good when we're losing, there will be bitching that seeps through...Definitely need some outgoings where possible in Jan.
Some other things that I feel need to addressed by JS (and I think will be):
1/ managers often say that football is about building relationships on the pitch. The constant rotation of the squad renders that impossible. I don't think you can keep changing the central defenders and central midfielders and expect to get any rhythm. Need a core of six or seven who always play if fit.
2/ we've got a squad overloaded with tricksy, tiny wingers/10s, none of whom get enough minutes to gain momentum. We'd win any 7-a-side tournament. But both goals last night could have been prevented with a gratuitous foul early in the move, the kind of take one for the team foul that Sam Field used to collect every week. It's so important to have that kind of selfless team-player, the kind who may not be great at the 7-a-side triangle football but who will track a runner from deep and trip him up just he's about to shoot. Collect a yellow card for deliberate fouls, lads.
Every great QPR team I have seen had that player in midfield that the modern-day vocal social media fans would hate but who was absolutely crucial: Leach, Waddock, Holloway, Bircham, Derry...without them Bowles, Currie, Wilkins, Wegerle, Faurlin, Taraabt don't get to glide around with the ball at their feet. We need a dirty wind-up pig in midfield if we're playing Saito, Chair and Madsen ahead of them. |
Well, we have a bloke who does that role, is sitting on the bench, and who has been:
22/23; Players’ & Fans Player of the Year - won both (won “young” player of the year too)
23/24: Fans’ Player of the Year - Runner up
24/25: Players’ Player of the Year - Runner up
We’ve spent years with the running joke about Sam Field and yellow cards for professional fouls. Ironic we’re crying out for it now. | | | |
| tonight on 10:50 - Nov 6 with 834 views | TK1 |
| tonight on 10:46 - Nov 6 by Hunterhoop |
Well, we have a bloke who does that role, is sitting on the bench, and who has been:
22/23; Players’ & Fans Player of the Year - won both (won “young” player of the year too)
23/24: Fans’ Player of the Year - Runner up
24/25: Players’ Player of the Year - Runner up
We’ve spent years with the running joke about Sam Field and yellow cards for professional fouls. Ironic we’re crying out for it now. |
That's literally what - who - I'm suggesting. I don't think we've earned the right to pick Chair, Saito, Madsen and Varane in the same team - unless we have Field (or Hayden) as anchor. | | | |
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