| Burgess 22:44 - Nov 5 with 4551 views | Ferryjack123 |
Very disappointing so far for me.. Came with quite a big reputation but he looks miles off it.. turns like a canal boat and his passing is horrific.. puts his team mates in trouble nearly every game.. |  | | |  |
| Burgess on 10:13 - Nov 6 with 3702 views | KeithHaynes |
I have to agree, been saying it for a while. But then we were spoilt with Darling, my main concern is Burgess with the ball at his feet. Having said that he was ok last night. |  |
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| Burgess on 10:14 - Nov 6 with 3701 views | Legend83 |
Interesting. I know the "use-your-eyes" test is as relevant, but according to FotMob statistically he is our best player this season, followed by Cabango, Vigs then Galbreith.
He is an old-fashioned physical CB which works well in some situations and not so well in others. I quite like that he sometimes takes a more adventurous pass like he did last night - sometimes it doesn't pay off and he was inaccurate last night but I would rather players like him and Casey who try to probe through the middle sometimes, rather than the constant horse-shoe that Cabango and Key are experts at. | | | |
| Burgess on 11:51 - Nov 6 with 3625 views | Whiterockin |
| Burgess on 10:14 - Nov 6 by Legend83 |
Interesting. I know the "use-your-eyes" test is as relevant, but according to FotMob statistically he is our best player this season, followed by Cabango, Vigs then Galbreith.
He is an old-fashioned physical CB which works well in some situations and not so well in others. I quite like that he sometimes takes a more adventurous pass like he did last night - sometimes it doesn't pay off and he was inaccurate last night but I would rather players like him and Casey who try to probe through the middle sometimes, rather than the constant horse-shoe that Cabango and Key are experts at. |
Sometimes statistically players looks good, put them into a new team situation an it is not so. I don't think Burgess is anywhere near as good as Darling was for us. It would be interesting to see the stats and data that prompted us to buy some players and the same stats and data since they signed for us. Obviously a player like Galbraith the data has improved, but for quite a few others it might not be the case. |  | | |
| Burgess on 12:49 - Nov 6 with 3533 views | onehunglow |
I beg to differ
He had not cost us games single handedly
Our right back has cost us five points in recent games, once with a gaping goalmouth four yds out and last night being blown away like a ten yr old
And he’s a perma starter
Fans eh | |
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| Burgess on 17:16 - Nov 7 with 3308 views | blackpooljack |
| Burgess on 10:13 - Nov 6 by KeithHaynes |
I have to agree, been saying it for a while. But then we were spoilt with Darling, my main concern is Burgess with the ball at his feet. Having said that he was ok last night. |
Can't agree with this in any way shape or form. Darling has been found out big style this season |  | | |
| Burgess on 17:26 - Nov 7 with 3287 views | KeithHaynes |
| Burgess on 17:16 - Nov 7 by blackpooljack |
Can't agree with this in any way shape or form. Darling has been found out big style this season |
Can only comment on what we / I saw last season.
Burgess has limitations with the ball at his feet, That’s surely obvious ? | |
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| Burgess on 17:33 - Nov 7 with 3258 views | onehunglow |
| Burgess on 17:26 - Nov 7 by KeithHaynes |
Can only comment on what we / I saw last season.
Burgess has limitations with the ball at his feet, That’s surely obvious ? |
Well he is as you say so why expect him to play it pretty
Same with Cabango providing crosses
He’s a good pro who is obviously brasses off
He will score the winner tomorrow | |
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| Burgess on 18:14 - Nov 7 with 3222 views | JJBomber |
| Burgess on 10:13 - Nov 6 by KeithHaynes |
I have to agree, been saying it for a while. But then we were spoilt with Darling, my main concern is Burgess with the ball at his feet. Having said that he was ok last night. |
Darling before the New Year was excellent. He was a dog with fleas after that as the contract saga dragged on. The Sheffield United game in particular seemed to damage his confidence. At fault for the goal, then a red card. Burgess has credit in the bank after Nottm Forest, so the jury is still out for me. | | | |
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| Burgess on 18:42 - Nov 7 with 3192 views | TheAlpineShrew |
| Burgess on 17:26 - Nov 7 by KeithHaynes |
Can only comment on what we / I saw last season.
Burgess has limitations with the ball at his feet, That’s surely obvious ? |
With his limitations, I wonder if our passing would improve with Stamenic playing in the back 3? Would allow us to move from a e at the back to 4 easily. | | | |
| Burgess on 19:23 - Nov 7 with 3145 views | KeithHaynes |
| Burgess on 17:33 - Nov 7 by onehunglow |
Well he is as you say so why expect him to play it pretty
Same with Cabango providing crosses
He’s a good pro who is obviously brasses off
He will score the winner tomorrow |
I hope he does.
I’m only suggesting I think his passing is suspect. And that has been evidenced by the player himself. It’s not a game he was playing at Ipswich, maybe he will grow into it like Harry did ?
He is very decent in the air, and needs to take more pot shots.
He can hit a ball. | |
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| Burgess on 08:47 - Nov 8 with 2931 views | heatwave |
Goals conceded would suggest he's not doing a bad job.
I would prefer a centre half who see's danger and clears his lines rather than play suicide football from the back if that is not his strength.
Of our new signings to date he's not as disappointing as most of the players we have stumped up cash for. |  | | |
| Burgess on 18:13 - Nov 8 with 2713 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Burgess on 18:42 - Nov 7 by TheAlpineShrew |
With his limitations, I wonder if our passing would improve with Stamenic playing in the back 3? Would allow us to move from a e at the back to 4 easily. |
Really?? |  |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| Burgess on 18:39 - Nov 8 with 2609 views | max936 |
| Burgess on 18:42 - Nov 7 by TheAlpineShrew |
With his limitations, I wonder if our passing would improve with Stamenic playing in the back 3? Would allow us to move from a e at the back to 4 easily. |
Stamenic stays at DM for me. |  |
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| Burgess on 18:50 - Nov 8 with 2582 views | Fireboy2 |
Ive been saying for a few weeks that burgess needs a rest, iirc hes played every minute of every game, I might be wrong though but hes played alot. |  | | |
| Burgess on 18:54 - Nov 8 with 2564 views | pete |
| Burgess on 18:50 - Nov 8 by Fireboy2 |
Ive been saying for a few weeks that burgess needs a rest, iirc hes played every minute of every game, I might be wrong though but hes played alot. |
and travelled to play for his country | | | |
| Burgess on 19:07 - Nov 8 with 2521 views | Fireboy2 |
| Burgess on 18:54 - Nov 8 by pete |
and travelled to play for his country |
Oh yes, that wouldn't have helped, casey should have been used more earlier. | | | |
| Burgess on 19:50 - Nov 8 with 2423 views | swan65split |
i thought he started the season ok, him like a few others have gone backwards , we cant hide from it. |  | | |
| Burgess on 20:02 - Nov 8 with 2393 views | Whiterockin |
Put him up front he knows where the back of the net is. | | | |
| Burgess on 20:40 - Nov 8 with 2295 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
Think he’s been quality, huge upgrade on Darling.
Not his best game today with ball at his feet and looks better as part of a 2 but overall an excellent signing | |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| Burgess on 21:51 - Nov 8 with 2133 views | RichardO |
Burgess and Cabango both need a safety net of someone with pace alongside them. Last season Darling did the covering for Tymon once Darling got his head around playing on the left side of defence, once Darling and Cabango were allowed to attack the ball one covered each other well and with four at the back Key and Tymon could chase forwards down, resulting for the most part in a relatively solid defence which wasn't caught colded by pace. through the middle.
Casey playing in the middle helped us play with three at the back, Samuel-Smith playing on the left of the three was not as effective today.hence reverting to four at the back.
We needed to change to the back four got back into the game but did we then pushed too many men forward to yet again get picked off because of our lack of pace in the centre and no cover as our fullback revert back to play as wingback in search of another goal and all the midfield also moving forward left us badly exposed for the second goal which we compounded to get picked off again a further twice.. [Post edited 9 Nov 8:13]
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| Burgess on 22:00 - Nov 8 with 2091 views | Whiterockin |
| Burgess on 21:51 - Nov 8 by RichardO |
Burgess and Cabango both need a safety net of someone with pace alongside them. Last season Darling did the covering for Tymon once Darling got his head around playing on the left side of defence, once Darling and Cabango were allowed to attack the ball one covered each other well and with four at the back Key and Tymon could chase forwards down, resulting for the most part in a relatively solid defence which wasn't caught colded by pace. through the middle.
Casey playing in the middle helped us play with three at the back, Samuel-Smith playing on the left of the three was not as effective today.hence reverting to four at the back.
We needed to change to the back four got back into the game but did we then pushed too many men forward to yet again get picked off because of our lack of pace in the centre and no cover as our fullback revert back to play as wingback in search of another goal and all the midfield also moving forward left us badly exposed for the second goal which we compounded to get picked off again a further twice.. [Post edited 9 Nov 8:13]
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The next game will be interesting without Cabango and Tymon, particularly if Sheehan is not in charge. | | | |
| Burgess on 22:13 - Nov 8 with 2016 views | union_jack |
| Burgess on 17:33 - Nov 7 by onehunglow |
Well he is as you say so why expect him to play it pretty
Same with Cabango providing crosses
He’s a good pro who is obviously brasses off
He will score the winner tomorrow |
You were right R 😁😒 |  |
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| Burgess on 22:19 - Nov 8 with 1998 views | JJBomber |
| Burgess on 22:00 - Nov 8 by Whiterockin |
The next game will be interesting without Cabango and Tymon, particularly if Sheehan is not in charge. |
Casey for Cabango, Samuels-Smith for Tymon. Not sure who replaces Sheehan! | | | |
| Burgess on 22:48 - Nov 8 with 1913 views | RichardO |
| Burgess on 22:00 - Nov 8 by Whiterockin |
The next game will be interesting without Cabango and Tymon, particularly if Sheehan is not in charge. |
Casey and Samuel-Smith fill in no problem, Santos on the bench along with Parker.
I would not like to see Stamenic in our back four just as I didn't like Fulton dropping into defence at the start of games..
People seem to forget that midfielders need to drop deep if our defenders push forward , example like Ollie Cooper for Manning ,
We also must remember that if we are being stifled as we play out from the back when keeping our full backs wide then if one midfielder dropping back isn't enough then a second may be needed but the first needs to move rotate to create space, teams are doing this to us in the midfield as we get our numbers and pressing tactics wrong and it is pitiful to see lots of teams opening us up so easily. | | | |
| Burgess on 00:47 - Nov 9 with 1785 views | KeithHaynes |
| Burgess on 22:19 - Nov 8 by JJBomber |
Casey for Cabango, Samuels-Smith for Tymon. Not sure who replaces Sheehan! |
Darren O’Dea which would be catastrophic | |
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