| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption 10:42 - Nov 13 with 8881 views | loftboy |
This is the buy diesel scenario all over again. |  |
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 10:52 - Nov 13 with 5014 views | Snipper |
I was chatting to a manager at work about the upcoming budget this month. This manager is convinced that owners of electric cars are going to have to pay 2p per mile to drive their cars after the budget. |  | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 11:21 - Nov 13 with 4882 views | Boston |
At this rate, I'm going to have to lay off Cedric. Devastating, there's not many openings for red flag wavers these days. |  |
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 11:48 - Nov 13 with 4810 views | Galileo |
Always been rather inevitable.
The notion of EVs being a tax free option was never going to hold much water especially considering how much duty will be lost once petrol and diesel powered vehicles are banned. | | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 11:51 - Nov 13 with 4787 views | Paddyhoops |
No congestion charge was the reason my governor got my electric van two years ago .
I know I’m congesting London but it’s without the fumes .
Lots of different arguments for and against EVs but it’s the future and we’ll have to live with it. | | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:03 - Nov 13 with 4747 views | colinallcars |
I heard Sadiq Khan't is considering extending the congestion zone towards Shepherds Bush. |  | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:09 - Nov 13 with 4730 views | loftboy |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:03 - Nov 13 by colinallcars |
I heard Sadiq Khan't is considering extending the congestion zone towards Shepherds Bush. |
When I was working in central London I was amazed that Westminster isn’t in the CC zone , then the penny dropped! | |
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:19 - Nov 13 with 4686 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:03 - Nov 13 by colinallcars |
I heard Sadiq Khan't is considering extending the congestion zone towards Shepherds Bush. |
Frankly those who voted for him are getting their just desserts. Most of the other mayoral candidates vowed to remove the extended ULEZ zone, not extend the CC zone, and not introduce pay-per-mile yet folk still voted for Sadiq. Little wonder he feels like he has carte blanche to do what he wants. |  | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:21 - Nov 13 with 4678 views | kensalriser |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:09 - Nov 13 by loftboy |
When I was working in central London I was amazed that Westminster isn’t in the CC zone , then the penny dropped! |
If you're referring to the Houses of Parliament, very much in the congestion charging zone. Not that the government has anything to do with it.
https://ulez.co.uk/congestion-charge-zone-map/ |  |
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:24 - Nov 13 with 4667 views | Benny_the_Ball |
Echoes of the Blair administration encouraging folk to buy diesel cars. | | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 13:20 - Nov 13 with 4511 views | Juzzie |
As obvious as night following day. As others have said, it's "buy diesel" Mk II.
Just proves it's fk all to do with lowering congestion (i.e. if everyone paid the fee there would still be the same amount of vehicles/congestion in London) or reducing pollution, it's a cash-cow.
Same with online TV subscriptions. I pay per month for the stuff such as Amazon Prime etc. They add adverts (extra income) then you have to now pay extra on top of the monthly subscription if you want it to be 'ad free'. It would be like having to pay a licence fee to ITV.
Fk right off, we're getting fleeced left, right & centre. [Post edited 13 Nov 13:24]
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 13:22 - Nov 13 with 4500 views | loftboy |
Weird it is now, wasn’t when I worked there. [Post edited 13 Nov 13:25]
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 15:33 - Nov 13 with 4242 views | kensalriser |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 13:22 - Nov 13 by loftboy |
Weird it is now, wasn’t when I worked there. [Post edited 13 Nov 13:25]
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It's been in the zone since inception - the western boundary was always Park Lane/Grosvenor Place/Vauxhall Bridge Rd. When the western extension was in effect you could drive that route through the zone without incurring the charge but the HoP are well to the east. | |
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 16:15 - Nov 13 with 4177 views | loftboy |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 15:33 - Nov 13 by kensalriser |
It's been in the zone since inception - the western boundary was always Park Lane/Grosvenor Place/Vauxhall Bridge Rd. When the western extension was in effect you could drive that route through the zone without incurring the charge but the HoP are well to the east. |
I stand corrected, just must have been oblivious to the big red CC painted on the road around there.
Was a company vehicle so didn’t affect me.
We did have 100 vans operating in central London daily so no wonder the sainsburies depot I worked out of lost 18 million quid a year and closed down after 4 years of operations. | |
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 16:38 - Nov 13 with 4123 views | slmrstid |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 10:52 - Nov 13 by Snipper |
I was chatting to a manager at work about the upcoming budget this month. This manager is convinced that owners of electric cars are going to have to pay 2p per mile to drive their cars after the budget. |
I have read that rumoured in the financial press, but who knows if it will be real.
To be cynical, you could suggest all of the potential budget policies are leaked to the press, then the ones that don't get met with complete outrage will stick whilst those that are will get quietly dropped. |  | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 16:47 - Nov 13 with 4090 views | SimonJames |
Obviously the maintenance of the roads has to be paid for by the road users. So at some point EVs will have to pay. Thus far they've just had a 100% discount to encourage switching over from fossil fuels. |  |
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 17:14 - Nov 13 with 3996 views | Paddyhoops |
50% off for electric vans which will make it £9 a day .
So not the full whack . At least that’s something. | | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 17:20 - Nov 13 with 3974 views | nick_hammersmith |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:19 - Nov 13 by Benny_the_Ball |
Frankly those who voted for him are getting their just desserts. Most of the other mayoral candidates vowed to remove the extended ULEZ zone, not extend the CC zone, and not introduce pay-per-mile yet folk still voted for Sadiq. Little wonder he feels like he has carte blanche to do what he wants. |
They might say they are getting rid, but once they get in that genie isn't get corked back up.
I'm pretty sure Ken wanted Congestion charge to reduce the pollution, so really don't get why EVs are included now... |  | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 17:22 - Nov 13 with 3971 views | nick_hammersmith |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 16:47 - Nov 13 by SimonJames |
Obviously the maintenance of the roads has to be paid for by the road users. So at some point EVs will have to pay. Thus far they've just had a 100% discount to encourage switching over from fossil fuels. |
Road maintenance budget should be from road tax not the congestion charge.
EV have to paid the road tax now, as that exemption went earlier as well | | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 17:24 - Nov 13 with 3957 views | nick_hammersmith |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 16:38 - Nov 13 by slmrstid |
I have read that rumoured in the financial press, but who knows if it will be real.
To be cynical, you could suggest all of the potential budget policies are leaked to the press, then the ones that don't get met with complete outrage will stick whilst those that are will get quietly dropped. |
When I worked at NBC the rumour was that some of the stories used in "The West Wing" were floated on TV to test the audience reaction. I thought it sounded silly at the time, but after recent years when Trump posts his thoughts on Twitter, I guess it might have had some legs | | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 17:41 - Nov 13 with 3875 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 12:19 - Nov 13 by Benny_the_Ball |
Frankly those who voted for him are getting their just desserts. Most of the other mayoral candidates vowed to remove the extended ULEZ zone, not extend the CC zone, and not introduce pay-per-mile yet folk still voted for Sadiq. Little wonder he feels like he has carte blanche to do what he wants. |
Another lefty dojoist bringing up politics*
*I don't disagree, i'm being sarcastic and just making a point from another thread. [Post edited 13 Nov 17:42]
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 17:44 - Nov 13 with 3859 views | SimonJames |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 17:22 - Nov 13 by nick_hammersmith |
Road maintenance budget should be from road tax not the congestion charge.
EV have to paid the road tax now, as that exemption went earlier as well |
Agreed. The congestion charge is there mainly as a deterrent.
But London and other places will want to charge some form of entry tax to raise revenue, because they're unlikely to get a share of the road tax (at least not in a proportion that they think is fair). | |
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| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 18:49 - Nov 13 with 3696 views | RangersDave3 |
EV,s should now be taxed on their weight, as an EV weighs more that a standard ICE car,
Ergo, being heavier they damage the road more than a ‘normal’ real car. | | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 19:49 - Nov 13 with 3550 views | QPR_Jim |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 18:49 - Nov 13 by RangersDave3 |
EV,s should now be taxed on their weight, as an EV weighs more that a standard ICE car,
Ergo, being heavier they damage the road more than a ‘normal’ real car. |
Just EVs on weight or all vehicles?
I drive an EV and it weighs less than a range rover, so should they pay more. What about Vans and Lorry's they're much heavier so should they pay proportionally? |  | | |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 20:39 - Nov 13 with 3465 views | R_from_afar |
| EV’s to lose congestion charge exemption on 18:49 - Nov 13 by RangersDave3 |
EV,s should now be taxed on their weight, as an EV weighs more that a standard ICE car,
Ergo, being heavier they damage the road more than a ‘normal’ real car. |
However, petrol and diesel vehicles are extremely bad for our health and result in billions of pounds worth of costs for the social care system and the NHS:
"In 2018 Public Health England (PHE) estimated that up to 43,000 people a year are dying in the UK because of air pollution and that it could cost the country as much as £18.6 billion by 2035, external unless action is taken."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65296752 |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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