| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? 13:59 - Apr 4 with 5693 views | Pindarus |
Assuming we can keep RND we will have him and Larkeche for lb. We will have more strikers than you can shake a stick at , plenty of mid fielders and well covered in central defence even if Cook departs. This only leaves uncertainties in the goalkeeper position.
This of course assumes that we manage to avoid the level of long term injuries we have suffered this season! |  | | |  |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 14:13 - Apr 4 with 4691 views | BlackCrowe |
Keeper and cover for right and left back and attacking MF |  |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 14:23 - Apr 4 with 4627 views | 1JD |
First choice right back if we have aspirations of top 6.
Mbengue for all his work rate and defensive abilities is not a top 6 right back. Technically, very limited.
I would be surprised if the club consider him first choice RB going into next season. Great signing, but we will need someone who offers more quality and technical ability going forward if we are aspire for top 6. | | | |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 14:24 - Apr 4 with 4616 views | JamesB1979 |
Left back, central midfielder and goalie in that order. Goalie would have been first for me but I’m strangely more confident in Walsh now. | | | |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 14:30 - Apr 4 with 4586 views | Hastings_Hoops |
Yes, because at some point in the next 12 months we will need to make one or two big sales to continue our contract amortisation digestive system. …the squad we have now NEEDS to be different this time next year or we will be screwed.
Fail to do that and the colon gets jammed, we end up ‘financially constipated’ and will have to flush out our lodged assets using a fire-sale laxative. The consequence of amortisation constipation seldom comes lubed. [Post edited 4 Apr 14:32]
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 14:39 - Apr 4 with 4523 views | Logman |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 14:30 - Apr 4 by Hastings_Hoops |
Yes, because at some point in the next 12 months we will need to make one or two big sales to continue our contract amortisation digestive system. …the squad we have now NEEDS to be different this time next year or we will be screwed.
Fail to do that and the colon gets jammed, we end up ‘financially constipated’ and will have to flush out our lodged assets using a fire-sale laxative. The consequence of amortisation constipation seldom comes lubed. [Post edited 4 Apr 14:32]
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Not only that but you always need one or two more players to freshen things up going into a new season and in the event that one or two fail to come up to expectations. If Hayden and possibly Varane or Field depart then we will need a central defensive midfielder or two. [Post edited 4 Apr 14:42]
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 15:22 - Apr 4 with 4390 views | denhamhoop2 |
Goalie Right Back Left Back and a box to box midfielder | | | |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 15:56 - Apr 4 with 4266 views | Lblock |
The positions have all been mentioned and have needed work for a couple of years.
My concern is what they won’t “sign”
Nourry will only sign projects - we need three things in any deal coming players : grit, physicality and experience
This is why I’d keep Sam Field and Cookie but I’ll be amazed if they’re around come August.
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 15:58 - Apr 4 with 4268 views | daveB |
I'd still be looking for an upgrade in goal, left back and central midfield. With Cook going probably need another centre half as well unless they think the development players are ready |  | | |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 15:59 - Apr 4 with 4248 views | bosh67 |
I have a feeling we may need to sell someone in the summer if we want to bring a few in. |  |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 16:13 - Apr 4 with 4202 views | Tonto |
In addition to the LB RB GK, i suspect at least 2 sales that will need replacing. Varane and Madsen most likley IMO. Hayden is unlikely to stay beyond his contact. Goodness knows hwats happening with Field. So a DM is also a likely purchase. |  |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 16:46 - Apr 4 with 4097 views | LazyFan |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 14:24 - Apr 4 by JamesB1979 |
Left back, central midfielder and goalie in that order. Goalie would have been first for me but I’m strangely more confident in Walsh now. |
This, but the midfielder needs to be a DMC, as Varane is not good enough apart from the odd game, and the Championship campaign is not a one-off. I don't think he was even that good against Watford, decent, but nothing amazing. Seemed to be the same as a Sam Field type performance for me.
RND may not come back, and who is to say Larkeche will return to progress, or was even up to it in the first place? I thought Larkeche was promising, but now that he's injured, who knows! And Esq, as we know, is more of a winger than an LB. JS seems to think so, too, now.
This means we have no LB at the club since Paal left almost a year ago. Disgraceful. They were rumoured to be after Alex Lowe from Sheff Wed when he quit his contract due to non-payment, then he signed a new contract with them. But that runs out this summer, so we could be back in for him on a free. We defo need not one, but two left-backs if RND does not get re-loaned.
Then a DMC, as stated, after which we need a Keeper. While Walsh is okay, he's not commanding enough or a presence and makes a few mistakes ala Lumley style. This is okay as hes young. I would get a proper top keeper in, loan Walsh out and get Cooper in as the backup.
After this, Cook is defo on his way out. This may give one of the youngsters, like Akindileni, an opportunity to step up.
At CB, we have Edwards, Dunne, JCS and Morrison, with Mbengue being able to play there too. If Dunne leaves, then we need another CB. 4 + 1 back from elsewhere in the squad or dev squad is enough. If Dunne stays, we can actually afford not to sign another RB, as Edwards or Dunne can fill in for Mbengue if he gets injured, loses form, or is suspended (don't laugh at the back). Remember, we are on a budget, so we cannot always have a nice reserve ready.
If Madsen leaves, then we need to replace him, obviously.
Despite what people say about the recruitment, this season, they got it mostly right. Which is lucky, as we spent a lot and will need to sell, probably Madsen or Varane, this summer.
If we look at the other members of the Squad:
Vale = Okay, signed last year, but only really started this season, which was known at the time we signed him. Hence the low price.
Kolli = should have established himself now with his goals. If he kicks on next season, then we have another Eze sale on our hands. Big IF.
Burrell = Quality signing, for just over a mill for a super quick Champ forward that's still got years ahead of him, a bargain.
Kone = Quality signing, number 9's are super expensive. Ask Millwall who forked out £5m for Josh Coburn. So, we got a reasonable purchase price for him. Decent first season in the harsh Champ. Remember, Josh Coburn had played in the Champ the season before and came from a big club. Kone is stepping up into the real pro league. And it has not phased him at all; he is also younger than Coburn.
Hayden = Not great, just okay. He played better the first time he played at QPR. Next season will be his last with us, I would say.
Mbengue = Comical character, but sometimes has dominated some of the best wingers in this division. Decent, would be better if he cut out the garbage we saw with Wrexham and others. Can also play CB, so useful.
Poku = Looks great when he comes on, can really cross the ball. But needs to stay fit, of course.
RND = Very good loan signing and the only one we made all season, proving the squad is progressing. But worrying that we did not sort out the LB position properly. This, after Dunne's renewal, is the squad's #1 priority for improvement.
Esquerdinha = Not really an LB, a bit like Santos. Loan him out to L1 next season.
Saitō = Poor, not really doing it. Seems the Champs hard slog has taken its toll. We should sell him in the summer for what we can get. We have enough wingers!
Obikwu = Looks like a prospect and replacement for if Kone gets injured. Nice option from the Dev Squad to have. Like to see what he's made of when he's fit.
Adamson = Looks okay at RB, better than the other Ozzies (apart from Bennie, who we have now discovered is a Striker, but should be loaned out) and better than Smith. We should loan him to L1 to really test him out.
Then there are the ones we shall release:
Hamer
Cook
Nardi
Dixon-Bonner (probably mutual consent).
Some of the Dev Squad, of course.
Then ones we need to replace:
Dunne if he does not renew.
Nardi, so we can have a main Keeper.
Madsen or Varane if we sell them.
Field will probably be sold, as getting some money from Derby for him is a good deal, which we shall use to fund a possible youngster coming up.
Lloyd will be sold for cheapness, me thinks. I would be surprised if Lincoln buys him, as we would want at least £500K (what we paid for Obikwu). I see him going to some L1 club for £250K. We have already replaced him; the success of Kolli has forced him down the order.
Really, this is not that much churn, which is good for the club's progress. [Post edited 4 Apr 16:47]
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 17:17 - Apr 4 with 4004 views | QPunkR |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 16:46 - Apr 4 by LazyFan |
This, but the midfielder needs to be a DMC, as Varane is not good enough apart from the odd game, and the Championship campaign is not a one-off. I don't think he was even that good against Watford, decent, but nothing amazing. Seemed to be the same as a Sam Field type performance for me.
RND may not come back, and who is to say Larkeche will return to progress, or was even up to it in the first place? I thought Larkeche was promising, but now that he's injured, who knows! And Esq, as we know, is more of a winger than an LB. JS seems to think so, too, now.
This means we have no LB at the club since Paal left almost a year ago. Disgraceful. They were rumoured to be after Alex Lowe from Sheff Wed when he quit his contract due to non-payment, then he signed a new contract with them. But that runs out this summer, so we could be back in for him on a free. We defo need not one, but two left-backs if RND does not get re-loaned.
Then a DMC, as stated, after which we need a Keeper. While Walsh is okay, he's not commanding enough or a presence and makes a few mistakes ala Lumley style. This is okay as hes young. I would get a proper top keeper in, loan Walsh out and get Cooper in as the backup.
After this, Cook is defo on his way out. This may give one of the youngsters, like Akindileni, an opportunity to step up.
At CB, we have Edwards, Dunne, JCS and Morrison, with Mbengue being able to play there too. If Dunne leaves, then we need another CB. 4 + 1 back from elsewhere in the squad or dev squad is enough. If Dunne stays, we can actually afford not to sign another RB, as Edwards or Dunne can fill in for Mbengue if he gets injured, loses form, or is suspended (don't laugh at the back). Remember, we are on a budget, so we cannot always have a nice reserve ready.
If Madsen leaves, then we need to replace him, obviously.
Despite what people say about the recruitment, this season, they got it mostly right. Which is lucky, as we spent a lot and will need to sell, probably Madsen or Varane, this summer.
If we look at the other members of the Squad:
Vale = Okay, signed last year, but only really started this season, which was known at the time we signed him. Hence the low price.
Kolli = should have established himself now with his goals. If he kicks on next season, then we have another Eze sale on our hands. Big IF.
Burrell = Quality signing, for just over a mill for a super quick Champ forward that's still got years ahead of him, a bargain.
Kone = Quality signing, number 9's are super expensive. Ask Millwall who forked out £5m for Josh Coburn. So, we got a reasonable purchase price for him. Decent first season in the harsh Champ. Remember, Josh Coburn had played in the Champ the season before and came from a big club. Kone is stepping up into the real pro league. And it has not phased him at all; he is also younger than Coburn.
Hayden = Not great, just okay. He played better the first time he played at QPR. Next season will be his last with us, I would say.
Mbengue = Comical character, but sometimes has dominated some of the best wingers in this division. Decent, would be better if he cut out the garbage we saw with Wrexham and others. Can also play CB, so useful.
Poku = Looks great when he comes on, can really cross the ball. But needs to stay fit, of course.
RND = Very good loan signing and the only one we made all season, proving the squad is progressing. But worrying that we did not sort out the LB position properly. This, after Dunne's renewal, is the squad's #1 priority for improvement.
Esquerdinha = Not really an LB, a bit like Santos. Loan him out to L1 next season.
Saitō = Poor, not really doing it. Seems the Champs hard slog has taken its toll. We should sell him in the summer for what we can get. We have enough wingers!
Obikwu = Looks like a prospect and replacement for if Kone gets injured. Nice option from the Dev Squad to have. Like to see what he's made of when he's fit.
Adamson = Looks okay at RB, better than the other Ozzies (apart from Bennie, who we have now discovered is a Striker, but should be loaned out) and better than Smith. We should loan him to L1 to really test him out.
Then there are the ones we shall release:
Hamer
Cook
Nardi
Dixon-Bonner (probably mutual consent).
Some of the Dev Squad, of course.
Then ones we need to replace:
Dunne if he does not renew.
Nardi, so we can have a main Keeper.
Madsen or Varane if we sell them.
Field will probably be sold, as getting some money from Derby for him is a good deal, which we shall use to fund a possible youngster coming up.
Lloyd will be sold for cheapness, me thinks. I would be surprised if Lincoln buys him, as we would want at least £500K (what we paid for Obikwu). I see him going to some L1 club for £250K. We have already replaced him; the success of Kolli has forced him down the order.
Really, this is not that much churn, which is good for the club's progress. [Post edited 4 Apr 16:47]
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 19:19 - Apr 4 with 3842 views | kensalriser |
Dunne signed a (REDACTED LENGTH) new agreement last summer. Highly unlikely it expires this year. |  |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 19:57 - Apr 4 with 3708 views | derbyhoop |
I'm with the OP.
Do we really need anybody?
Or, more precisely, can we get better than what we have already? On our budget?
I appreciate the consensus about a GK, 2 FBs and, possibly someone for CM. I'm just unconvinced that all those are absolutely necessary. |  |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 20:15 - Apr 4 with 3648 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 14:23 - Apr 4 by 1JD |
First choice right back if we have aspirations of top 6.
Mbengue for all his work rate and defensive abilities is not a top 6 right back. Technically, very limited.
I would be surprised if the club consider him first choice RB going into next season. Great signing, but we will need someone who offers more quality and technical ability going forward if we are aspire for top 6. |
Mbengue is young enough to be coached properly and learn the role better: he’s obviously had some coaching to avoid getting booked every game as that’s been much better since Christmas.Yesterday he had plenty of space to run at the Watford defence and create something rather than blast the ball aimlessly out of play at the earliest opportunity: that can be coached into him as well.
He’s been a great signing and will improve. |  | | |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 20:29 - Apr 4 with 3619 views | dmm |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 16:46 - Apr 4 by LazyFan |
This, but the midfielder needs to be a DMC, as Varane is not good enough apart from the odd game, and the Championship campaign is not a one-off. I don't think he was even that good against Watford, decent, but nothing amazing. Seemed to be the same as a Sam Field type performance for me.
RND may not come back, and who is to say Larkeche will return to progress, or was even up to it in the first place? I thought Larkeche was promising, but now that he's injured, who knows! And Esq, as we know, is more of a winger than an LB. JS seems to think so, too, now.
This means we have no LB at the club since Paal left almost a year ago. Disgraceful. They were rumoured to be after Alex Lowe from Sheff Wed when he quit his contract due to non-payment, then he signed a new contract with them. But that runs out this summer, so we could be back in for him on a free. We defo need not one, but two left-backs if RND does not get re-loaned.
Then a DMC, as stated, after which we need a Keeper. While Walsh is okay, he's not commanding enough or a presence and makes a few mistakes ala Lumley style. This is okay as hes young. I would get a proper top keeper in, loan Walsh out and get Cooper in as the backup.
After this, Cook is defo on his way out. This may give one of the youngsters, like Akindileni, an opportunity to step up.
At CB, we have Edwards, Dunne, JCS and Morrison, with Mbengue being able to play there too. If Dunne leaves, then we need another CB. 4 + 1 back from elsewhere in the squad or dev squad is enough. If Dunne stays, we can actually afford not to sign another RB, as Edwards or Dunne can fill in for Mbengue if he gets injured, loses form, or is suspended (don't laugh at the back). Remember, we are on a budget, so we cannot always have a nice reserve ready.
If Madsen leaves, then we need to replace him, obviously.
Despite what people say about the recruitment, this season, they got it mostly right. Which is lucky, as we spent a lot and will need to sell, probably Madsen or Varane, this summer.
If we look at the other members of the Squad:
Vale = Okay, signed last year, but only really started this season, which was known at the time we signed him. Hence the low price.
Kolli = should have established himself now with his goals. If he kicks on next season, then we have another Eze sale on our hands. Big IF.
Burrell = Quality signing, for just over a mill for a super quick Champ forward that's still got years ahead of him, a bargain.
Kone = Quality signing, number 9's are super expensive. Ask Millwall who forked out £5m for Josh Coburn. So, we got a reasonable purchase price for him. Decent first season in the harsh Champ. Remember, Josh Coburn had played in the Champ the season before and came from a big club. Kone is stepping up into the real pro league. And it has not phased him at all; he is also younger than Coburn.
Hayden = Not great, just okay. He played better the first time he played at QPR. Next season will be his last with us, I would say.
Mbengue = Comical character, but sometimes has dominated some of the best wingers in this division. Decent, would be better if he cut out the garbage we saw with Wrexham and others. Can also play CB, so useful.
Poku = Looks great when he comes on, can really cross the ball. But needs to stay fit, of course.
RND = Very good loan signing and the only one we made all season, proving the squad is progressing. But worrying that we did not sort out the LB position properly. This, after Dunne's renewal, is the squad's #1 priority for improvement.
Esquerdinha = Not really an LB, a bit like Santos. Loan him out to L1 next season.
Saitō = Poor, not really doing it. Seems the Champs hard slog has taken its toll. We should sell him in the summer for what we can get. We have enough wingers!
Obikwu = Looks like a prospect and replacement for if Kone gets injured. Nice option from the Dev Squad to have. Like to see what he's made of when he's fit.
Adamson = Looks okay at RB, better than the other Ozzies (apart from Bennie, who we have now discovered is a Striker, but should be loaned out) and better than Smith. We should loan him to L1 to really test him out.
Then there are the ones we shall release:
Hamer
Cook
Nardi
Dixon-Bonner (probably mutual consent).
Some of the Dev Squad, of course.
Then ones we need to replace:
Dunne if he does not renew.
Nardi, so we can have a main Keeper.
Madsen or Varane if we sell them.
Field will probably be sold, as getting some money from Derby for him is a good deal, which we shall use to fund a possible youngster coming up.
Lloyd will be sold for cheapness, me thinks. I would be surprised if Lincoln buys him, as we would want at least £500K (what we paid for Obikwu). I see him going to some L1 club for £250K. We have already replaced him; the success of Kolli has forced him down the order.
Really, this is not that much churn, which is good for the club's progress. [Post edited 4 Apr 16:47]
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 00:02 - Apr 5 with 3210 views | LazyFan |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 20:29 - Apr 4 by dmm |
Field is on loan at Norwich not Derby. |
Yeah, but they were in for him, but it was too late; he had set his mind on Norwich. Derby wanted ot buy him, apparently! | |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 00:28 - Apr 5 with 3182 views | simmo |
If we don't sign a better goalkeeper for next season we might as well sell the prospects we have offers for and put our feet up for 16th.
You don't start development prospects in goal in this league unless they're special, you get 100 pro appearances into them elsewhere and go from there. I like Walsh and I'm sure he has learned a lot from this season, but he's not good enough currently and isn't that close to being so.
Goalkeeper is priority 1, 2 and 3. Then a LB. A box to box CM would also be nice. As ever it depends who goes, and selling is a bigger need than any incoming. |  |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 05:27 - Apr 5 with 3024 views | HAYESBOY |
I would like to see a goalkeeper come in.
If RND is not doable, then a left back.
A specialised right back.
If there are no sales to important players then IMO the rest of the squad is ok.
Hayden will stay IMO, Field will be back because he is now not getting any game time at Norwich.
4 strikers so no need to add there.
4 centre halfs and 2 x youngsters coming through. Cook will be off. No need to add there.
Plenty of wingers and attacking midfielders. No need to add there.
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 09:30 - Apr 5 with 2810 views | Rsole |
I’m betting that we sign a whole boat load of $10 Aussies…. |  |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 10:16 - Apr 5 with 2683 views | Tonto |
Should remember that it was only a few games ago the general consensus was they were all shite and we needed a completely new squad/manager/CEO/medical team/mascot | |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 10:21 - Apr 5 with 2675 views | TK1 |
Is there just going to be the same thread restarted throughout the summer, remixed with a new title?
If so, I will just keep adding the thought that they will not sign a new number 1 to replace Walsh, unless he leaves. The club believe he is the number 1, longterm, and will not block that pathway. They may sign a new Hamer and they have to reveal their plan for Cooper, of course. I would not be surprised if they look at both Walsh and Cooper in preseason and adjust plans accordingly.
Let's not forget that Carl Rushworth, the best goalkeeper in the Championship, is also 24, six months older than Walsh and Cooper but with twice as many games. I imagine the expectation is emulation. And Rushworth is only at loan at Coventry. They go up, he goes to back to Brighton.
We all believe, clearly, that a LB and RB competition is required. A midfielder too, possibly. There are question marks over the futures of Field, Morrison and some bit-parts like Adamson, the best pathway for Esquendinha, Pearman etc - all these questions need to be answered before recruitment really.
Everything hinges on whether QPR can sell someone for proper money in the next window though. That's as important as any signing. I don't think we can meaningfully add much unless subtract. | | | |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 12:23 - Apr 5 with 2478 views | Logman |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 10:16 - Apr 5 by Tonto |
Should remember that it was only a few games ago the general consensus was they were all shite and we needed a completely new squad/manager/CEO/medical team/mascot |
I think some bad selections and bad tactics had more to do with the bad run as the ability of the players. | | | |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 22:14 - Apr 9 with 1964 views | digswellhoop |
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| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 12:04 - Apr 10 with 1660 views | 7374Ranger |
| Do we actually need to sign anybody for next season? on 22:14 - Apr 9 by digswellhoop |
sahla on afree can only dream 🫠 |
Obviously it all depends on players leaving or being sold, but I think an experienced keeper ( maybe as backup to Walsh) and a left back (not convinced by Larkeche or Esquerdinha).
If any club would buy him, I would sell JCS because he can’t be relied on to stay fit. I would also sell Lloyd and Varane. I would keep Field but suspect he will be sold. So signing a DCM will most likely be needed. | | | |
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