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Derby Reflection 17:20 - Apr 25 with 21985 viewsbluenwhite10

Wrexham at home all over again.

Today summed up the lack of respect we are showing to end of the season with changes for changes sake, which ultimately ended up with us finishing the game with 10 men.

Yes I do get it is giving the manager the opportunity to blood youngsters to see how they cut it but pre season friendly is the place for that.

The 1st half performance was good with some good performances from players I have been critical of in the past Bennie and Morgan.

It is was it is.

I would say the season has been typical of a middle of the table team with the good being very good and the bad being very bad.

The Madsen injury affected us badly and we naturally dipped a bit then and struggled.

Next week I would imagine will be more of the same and £43 a ticket is a joke.

Has it improved from last season….i think so!

Come on you R’s
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Derby Reflection on 17:22 - Apr 25 with 12255 viewsNov77

We need a few Shaun Derry and Clint hill type players instead of this Charles Hawtrey tribute act.

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Derby Reflection on 17:24 - Apr 25 with 12197 viewsWegerles_Stairs

How is Nourry getting away with this? We're playing players who are simply not good enough and the fitness team seems to be run by Harold Shipman.
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Derby Reflection on 17:28 - Apr 25 with 12132 viewsLandshark

I just wish we could play like we did in the first 15 minutes throughout the 90. I was watching on Derby comms and even they were purring on how we were playing.

It was the kind of game we didn't deserve to lose and Derby would consider themselves lucky to even get a point.
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Derby Reflection on 17:28 - Apr 25 with 12126 viewspaulparker

This whole season has felt like one big experiment
Formation, teams , subs
Most of these young lads are no where near good enough for the first team
Don’t get me wrong I would have snapped your hand for this after the 7-1 but even when we got ourselves into contention there was no believe to push forward into the play offs
We drastically need 2 actual fullbacks and a competent keeper

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Derby Reflection on 17:30 - Apr 25 with 12089 viewsessextaxiboy

We now have 2 players , Poku and Burrell with hamstring injuries sustained in games with nothing on them instead of them having a controlled build into next season theyy will be under treatment all summer … madness
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Derby Reflection on 17:37 - Apr 25 with 11998 viewsStreathamRanger

Derby Reflection on 17:30 - Apr 25 by essextaxiboy

We now have 2 players , Poku and Burrell with hamstring injuries sustained in games with nothing on them instead of them having a controlled build into next season theyy will be under treatment all summer … madness


Burrell has only been eased back in. You have to play him at some point to see if his body holds up. We got our answer today. Another crock.
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Derby Reflection on 17:46 - Apr 25 with 11896 viewsQPROslo

I thought 4 of the 5 subs were due to injuries. Not sure about Mad Ben but Sinton thought it related to a knock from when he went over the barrier into the front row there. Burrell was holding his hammie Kone his calf and Smyth had a knock of some kind..

We dominated the first 70 minutes of that and should have been 4 or 5 up. Hit the post, goal disallowed and some finishing that wasn't quite good enough. Well done Vale, Kone, Edwards and Bennie, and probably the best I've seen from Morgan.
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Derby Reflection on 17:50 - Apr 25 with 11863 views100percent

Adamson got absolutely schooled today.
23 years old, not necessarily the youngest player on the pitch, really don’t think he will make the grade. We need two full backs next season. Another midfielder and hold on to our attacking players.
We need to progress, and it’s difficult to see where that comes from without some material changes.
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Derby Reflection on 17:52 - Apr 25 with 11822 viewsrbee

Derby Reflection on 17:37 - Apr 25 by StreathamRanger

Burrell has only been eased back in. You have to play him at some point to see if his body holds up. We got our answer today. Another crock.


Harsh as Burrell played the majority of the season without any issues.

Time will tell.

Both of our strikers in to double figures is a big positive to take in to next season.
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Derby Reflection on 18:11 - Apr 25 with 11626 viewsBlackCrowe

I actually enjoyed the game mostly until they got their 3rd. We were playing some lovely stuff for the first half and into the second. Lost all momentum and fluidity with the subs.

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Derby Reflection on 18:21 - Apr 25 with 11544 viewsRsole

Derby Reflection on 18:11 - Apr 25 by BlackCrowe

I actually enjoyed the game mostly until they got their 3rd. We were playing some lovely stuff for the first half and into the second. Lost all momentum and fluidity with the subs.


Me too - and then…..we shat the bed, again. More sheets Matron !!!

I would have had Cook on the bench for a cameo and moved Edwards to RB.

I think that would have closed out the game quite nicely and given Steve a much better send off. Maybe we don’t kill a couple of other players to death (again) and cruise home with a decent cushion of goals.

Not the way of our people, as Dorse would say.


Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?

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Derby Reflection on 18:22 - Apr 25 with 11519 viewsWegerles_Stairs

The only thing that surprised me today was that those influencers from midweek didn't get a game. But maybe Nourry is saving them for the League Cup.
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Derby Reflection on 18:25 - Apr 25 with 11500 viewsloftboy

Why take Bennie off? His best game for us by a country mile. Had a hand in both goals and was having a field day out on the right.

Nourry out
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Derby Reflection on 18:29 - Apr 25 with 11448 viewsLogman

Terrible substitutions reinforcing my view that the management team, or whoever makes the decisions is not up to it. We just go 2-1 up with Bennie a real threat and Morgan a real presence and both are hauled off meaning we lose all our momentum and let them back into the game. I thought we were going to go out with a nice, well deserved win until those two substitutions helped Derby to three points.
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Derby Reflection on 18:33 - Apr 25 with 11422 viewsLofthope

Derby Reflection on 18:25 - Apr 25 by loftboy

Why take Bennie off? His best game for us by a country mile. Had a hand in both goals and was having a field day out on the right.


I said during the first few minutes that he'd play Bennie for 60 minutes and then bring on Burrell. Quel surprise!
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Derby Reflection on 18:33 - Apr 25 with 11415 viewsrbee

Derby Reflection on 18:25 - Apr 25 by loftboy

Why take Bennie off? His best game for us by a country mile. Had a hand in both goals and was having a field day out on the right.


Speaking of Field we certainly needed him around today.

Not starting for Norwich anymore so not sure what will be happening with him.
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Derby Reflection on 18:34 - Apr 25 with 11410 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Derby Reflection on 18:25 - Apr 25 by loftboy

Why take Bennie off? His best game for us by a country mile. Had a hand in both goals and was having a field day out on the right.


Bizarre taking him and Morgan off, though I suppose they are trying to get minutes in Chair and Madsen, but why?

Bennie gets dogs abuse on here by some, yet here was a 19yo who was the best player on the pitch today. And if you watched Morgan and Varane today, but didn't know which one was being linked with a £5m move, you'd say Morgan.

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Derby Reflection on 18:34 - Apr 25 with 11405 viewsRsole

Derby Reflection on 18:25 - Apr 25 by loftboy

Why take Bennie off? His best game for us by a country mile. Had a hand in both goals and was having a field day out on the right.


Very strange decision - he was good today in that role.

Quick learner and never seem to tire. Why take him off ? He’s so versatile, you could have moved him to RB.

Those possessed by devils, try and keep them under control a bit, can't you ?

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Derby Reflection on 18:36 - Apr 25 with 11393 viewsmart_Goblin

Derby Reflection on 18:25 - Apr 25 by loftboy

Why take Bennie off? His best game for us by a country mile. Had a hand in both goals and was having a field day out on the right.


Yes I have to agree.

Leave him out there. He was enjoying himself and playing well
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Derby Reflection on 18:50 - Apr 25 with 11293 viewsMrSheen

Derby Reflection on 18:36 - Apr 25 by mart_Goblin

Yes I have to agree.

Leave him out there. He was enjoying himself and playing well


I thought Bennie was limping a bit before he went off.

Something else to be said about the transformation of the game was that the first 70 minutes, Derby were the slowest team I’ve seen this season. Morgan had as much time and freedom on the ball as we gave Boro, Bristol City, Swansea etc. Their subs perked them up, not the least the scorer on the left.
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Derby Reflection on 18:51 - Apr 25 with 11255 viewsjohnhoop

I found that to be an immensely frustrating game because I’m not sure whether I’ve seen one when we played as well as that and then came away with nothing.
For virtually the whole of the first half we made Derby look as poor as Middlesbrough did us a few weeks ago. We were saying to each other “who are these guys?” and “is it really QPR we’re watching.” I thought we played better than we did against Portsmouth when we got six and we should have got at least four or five.
But the subs gradually killed us, starting with Adamson at halftime who looked way out of his depth. Subbing Bennie and Morgan for Burrell and Madsen should have made us stronger but had the opposite effect and the withdrawal of Kone removed any lingering threat up front.
By the end, the only team likely to score in that painful ten minutes of injury time was Derby and it was such a shame for the team to receive no reward for playing exhilarating football for three quarters of the game.
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Derby Reflection on 18:52 - Apr 25 with 11237 viewsrbee

Derby Reflection on 18:34 - Apr 25 by Wilkinswatercarrier

Bizarre taking him and Morgan off, though I suppose they are trying to get minutes in Chair and Madsen, but why?

Bennie gets dogs abuse on here by some, yet here was a 19yo who was the best player on the pitch today. And if you watched Morgan and Varane today, but didn't know which one was being linked with a £5m move, you'd say Morgan.


Looking at the starting line up and the bench I think most of the substitutions were pre planned and as you say wanting to get minutes in to players.

We seem to be so rigid with this pre planning and go ahead irrespective of how the game is panning out.

Yet another game that we lost rather than the opposition win.

Another rollercoaster season. Looking forward to next season I think we have a pretty good squad and everyone associated with the club knows where we need to recruit assuming we have a budget.

But unless we manage our players better in terms of fitness and injuries and whilst we persist with a two man midfield we will not progress. Hugely frustrating as The Championship isn't that strong currently and we should be exploiting that.
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Derby Reflection on 19:01 - Apr 25 with 11195 viewsNortholt_Rs

Derby Reflection on 18:51 - Apr 25 by johnhoop

I found that to be an immensely frustrating game because I’m not sure whether I’ve seen one when we played as well as that and then came away with nothing.
For virtually the whole of the first half we made Derby look as poor as Middlesbrough did us a few weeks ago. We were saying to each other “who are these guys?” and “is it really QPR we’re watching.” I thought we played better than we did against Portsmouth when we got six and we should have got at least four or five.
But the subs gradually killed us, starting with Adamson at halftime who looked way out of his depth. Subbing Bennie and Morgan for Burrell and Madsen should have made us stronger but had the opposite effect and the withdrawal of Kone removed any lingering threat up front.
By the end, the only team likely to score in that painful ten minutes of injury time was Derby and it was such a shame for the team to receive no reward for playing exhilarating football for three quarters of the game.


It was such a shame for the team…? It was a bloody shame for the poor sods who filled the ground for a nothing game to have the team roll over at home. Again. Pisspoor.

Scooters, Tunes, Trainers and QPR.

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Derby Reflection on 19:17 - Apr 25 with 11089 viewsbaz_qpr

I thought for most of the game we played great, the switch to the 4-1-4-1 formation seemed to really catch them out Varane had an excellent first half, the centre back were dominatnand good on the ball, and the attacking 5 linked well and at pace. We were so wasteful in front of goal, Bennie kept electing to pass when he should have shot, Smyth kept shooting when the pass was on.

Two subs changed the game. Give Adamson his due he did at least try to pass forward today, but he was defensively terrible and positionally all over the place, he a year younger than Mbengue but the gulf between the two is huge.

Kone coming off Chair coming on and Burrell going up top alone and we lost control as we could not get the ball to stick.

I have to be honest, but Burrell had not looked right to me since coming back, no explosive pace at all and without that he is ordinary. Certainly playing within himself you have to ask should he have come back at all. That's at least 3 returnees from Hamstring injuries this year that have got injured again within a few games, and some serious questions need to be asked of the performance team here. 1 might be unlucky, 2 careless 3 something is very wrong.

If Walsh had put in as shaky performance as Naardi today there would be a 20 post thread on it already.

Today in many ways encapsulated our season, a lot of promise, some exciting football at times, ruined by injury and some very poor depth especially in the full back areas
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Derby Reflection on 19:18 - Apr 25 with 11067 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

Derby Reflection on 18:52 - Apr 25 by rbee

Looking at the starting line up and the bench I think most of the substitutions were pre planned and as you say wanting to get minutes in to players.

We seem to be so rigid with this pre planning and go ahead irrespective of how the game is panning out.

Yet another game that we lost rather than the opposition win.

Another rollercoaster season. Looking forward to next season I think we have a pretty good squad and everyone associated with the club knows where we need to recruit assuming we have a budget.

But unless we manage our players better in terms of fitness and injuries and whilst we persist with a two man midfield we will not progress. Hugely frustrating as The Championship isn't that strong currently and we should be exploiting that.
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Mmmmm, I'm not sure they do know what we need.

If we went out and got two decent CMs we'd be promoted with the current squad. This league is dog shyte and it only takes good CM to get out.

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