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PSR breaches and compensation 14:39 - Jun 10 with 6318 viewsKensalT

I think this deserves its own thread because it 'might' have implications for us.

Everton has been ordered to pay Burnley £40m compensation because it's PSR breaches in 2021/22 gave them an unfair advantage over Burnley in the relegation battle that season.

Everton are going to appeal.

I think too much time has passed for Derby to make a similar claim against us, but I will bet they are looking hard at their options

However, Derby's own PSR breach in 2020/21 arguably cost Wycombe relegation that season. So Wycombe might have a case of their own against Derby.


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PSR breaches and compensation on 14:41 - Jun 10 with 4617 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Can. Of. Worms.

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PSR breaches and compensation on 14:46 - Jun 10 with 4553 viewsKensalT

PSR breaches and compensation on 14:41 - Jun 10 by BrianMcCarthy

Can. Of. Worms.


Possibly.

It has been 12 years since we beat Derby in the playoffs.

That should be enough elapsed time for us to be safe against any claim by them.

But Wycombe might have grounds for a claim against Derby.

Although Derby's subsequent Administration probably makes it impossible for them to claim against us or for Wycombe to claim against them.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 14:52 - Jun 10 with 4519 viewsBrianMcCarthy

It's going to be really, really interesting, as you say, to see which clubs follow suit.

Why wouldn't any club pick up the phone right now and ring our Nick?

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PSR breaches and compensation on 14:55 - Jun 10 with 4502 viewsKensalT

PSR breaches and compensation on 14:52 - Jun 10 by BrianMcCarthy

It's going to be really, really interesting, as you say, to see which clubs follow suit.

Why wouldn't any club pick up the phone right now and ring our Nick?


Keiran Maguire has tweeted that any PL club that feels it lost out because of Chelsea or Man City breaking the spending rules might want to get lawyered up.

Nick best cancel his holiday plans.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 15:04 - Jun 10 with 4461 viewsTheChef

PSR breaches and compensation on 14:55 - Jun 10 by KensalT

Keiran Maguire has tweeted that any PL club that feels it lost out because of Chelsea or Man City breaking the spending rules might want to get lawyered up.

Nick best cancel his holiday plans.



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PSR breaches and compensation on 15:27 - Jun 10 with 4383 viewsDWQPR

And it’s about time that all PSR rules are scrapped. Worst thing that has ever happened to football. Allows the rich to get richer and the smaller clubs left behind to rot. Let club owners spend what they like and shoulder the debt themselves. If they can afford and are happy to lose millions then that is their right, as long as the club survives. The amount of clubs that get into financial trouble nowadays are no different to the amount of clubs that got into financial trouble in the 70’s and 80’s.

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PSR breaches and compensation on 15:46 - Jun 10 with 4335 viewsNorthernr

I mean if Man City ever get found found guilty this would surely open them up to action from every team that was denied a chance to compete for the title or the Champions League by then for the last decade?

Is there a time limit on it? Because Derby will surely be sniffing round us and Villa if not?
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PSR breaches and compensation on 16:03 - Jun 10 with 4248 viewsQPR_John

Have I missed something but what did we do to possibly cheat against Derby.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 16:11 - Jun 10 with 4210 viewsderbyhoop

I thought PSR rules were brought in to prevent the likes of Bury, Macclesfield and others, more recently Sheffield Wednesday, from going bust.

It's more than time that the FA, the PL and the EFL cleaned up their acts and got tough on all those clubs that breach the regulations.

Sure, owners ought to be able to spend whatever they like, but not to the point of driving a club into the ground or distorting the competition so badly it becomes a farce.

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PSR breaches and compensation on 16:18 - Jun 10 with 4188 viewsthemodfather

football is now no longer decided on the pitch it is all in the courtrooms, where there is money there are lawyers!
we all wait, and have been for 2 years, the outcome of the man city investigations and the cover up that will be!
chelsea for all their breaches copped a minor 10m fine, nothing to them, strip a league cup take off 15 points, that is a punishment ( they have had many european bans re transfers i think?)
what if now wycombe sue derby cos their delayed point off cost them another championship season and money?
it will open a can of worms .
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PSR breaches and compensation on 16:26 - Jun 10 with 4172 viewsNorthernr

PSR breaches and compensation on 16:03 - Jun 10 by QPR_John

Have I missed something but what did we do to possibly cheat against Derby.


The FFP fine we’re still paying off now was because we grotesquely breached the FFP rules of the time in that 2013/14 season which ended with us beating them in the play off final with a wage bill they could never possibly (legally) have had themselves.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 16:37 - Jun 10 with 4101 viewsKensalT

PSR breaches and compensation on 15:46 - Jun 10 by Northernr

I mean if Man City ever get found found guilty this would surely open them up to action from every team that was denied a chance to compete for the title or the Champions League by then for the last decade?

Is there a time limit on it? Because Derby will surely be sniffing round us and Villa if not?


I think we're safe from Derby.

Them going into Administration effectively wiped the slate clean.

If I was going to put a time limit I would guess six years because that's the standard limit on financial and contractual disputes.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 16:44 - Jun 10 with 4064 viewsKensalT

PSR breaches and compensation on 16:03 - Jun 10 by QPR_John

Have I missed something but what did we do to possibly cheat against Derby.


It's not that we specifically cheated against Derby.

We cheated the whole Championship that season by ignoring the FFP rules and massively overspending to secure promotion.

Derby are the most obvious losers because we beat them in the playoff final.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 17:01 - Jun 10 with 4010 viewsNorthernr

PSR breaches and compensation on 16:44 - Jun 10 by KensalT

It's not that we specifically cheated against Derby.

We cheated the whole Championship that season by ignoring the FFP rules and massively overspending to secure promotion.

Derby are the most obvious losers because we beat them in the playoff final.


So can the rest of the Prem now pile on Everton for that season?

It’s a perverse, unworkable verdict.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 17:31 - Jun 10 with 3918 viewsnick_hammersmith

PSR breaches and compensation on 16:44 - Jun 10 by KensalT

It's not that we specifically cheated against Derby.

We cheated the whole Championship that season by ignoring the FFP rules and massively overspending to secure promotion.

Derby are the most obvious losers because we beat them in the playoff final.


Were Derby not also cheating as well though? I remember they also had an expensively assembled and renumerated squad at that time.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 17:32 - Jun 10 with 3918 viewsKensalT

PSR breaches and compensation on 17:01 - Jun 10 by Northernr

So can the rest of the Prem now pile on Everton for that season?

It’s a perverse, unworkable verdict.


Everton are going to appeal, so let's see what happens.

Every PL place is worth £3m, so in theory every team that Everton took points off that season might decide they have some sort of a claim that's worth pursuing.

Need to see the reasons for the decision before deciding if it's perverse.

It would certainly be unworkable for every team to bring an action. They'll probably contrive some reason why only a big loser like Burnley who got relegated can bring an action.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 17:43 - Jun 10 with 3861 viewsKensalT

PSR breaches and compensation on 17:31 - Jun 10 by nick_hammersmith

Were Derby not also cheating as well though? I remember they also had an expensively assembled and renumerated squad at that time.


Not that season (2013-14).

IIRC they had a fairly young squad that season.

Mel Morris became sole owner of Derby in 2015 and that's when they started throwing money around

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PSR breaches and compensation on 18:05 - Jun 10 with 3815 viewsted_hendrix

What a calamitous mess football has got Itself Into.

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PSR breaches and compensation on 18:27 - Jun 10 with 3735 viewsPaddyhoops

Pretty certain Derby left lots of contractors and organisations out of pocket when they went belly up up. Hardly paragons of virtue . Are they ?
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PSR breaches and compensation on 19:58 - Jun 10 with 3566 viewsdavman

PSR breaches and compensation on 15:46 - Jun 10 by Northernr

I mean if Man City ever get found found guilty this would surely open them up to action from every team that was denied a chance to compete for the title or the Champions League by then for the last decade?

Is there a time limit on it? Because Derby will surely be sniffing round us and Villa if not?


That is such a big "IF" though. It is an utter scandal tgat Everton get punished TWICE for the same offence whilst the FA procrastinate over the 115 charges and do FA ('scuse the pun) about the flagrant two fingers Chel*** stick up at them constantly.

All our moaning about how unfair the financial rules are is pointless. In true QPR tradition we had two chances to establish ourselves in that cess pit and we failed.

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PSR breaches and compensation on 19:58 - Jun 10 with 3563 viewslassel

PSR breaches and compensation on 17:01 - Jun 10 by Northernr

So can the rest of the Prem now pile on Everton for that season?

It’s a perverse, unworkable verdict.


No. PL rules are very clear that any club who felt impacted must have registered a grievance during the process, before any verdict was released. From memory 3/4 clubs did.

Same applies for City - any club who might want to start an action if they’re found guilty needed to make that known a few years ago now. And a key part of the PL rules that all clubs agree to state that interclub grievances must be resolved at a PL arbitration, not outside action.

QPR promotions would be long time barred by now.
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PSR breaches and compensation on 20:20 - Jun 10 with 3514 viewsbosh67

It all kind of makes me think of this...


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PSR breaches and compensation on 06:54 - Jun 11 with 3280 viewsEastR

PSR breaches and compensation on 19:58 - Jun 10 by lassel

No. PL rules are very clear that any club who felt impacted must have registered a grievance during the process, before any verdict was released. From memory 3/4 clubs did.

Same applies for City - any club who might want to start an action if they’re found guilty needed to make that known a few years ago now. And a key part of the PL rules that all clubs agree to state that interclub grievances must be resolved at a PL arbitration, not outside action.

QPR promotions would be long time barred by now.


But there hasn't been any verdict yet in the Man City case, that's still 'in process:

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PSR breaches and compensation on 07:03 - Jun 11 with 3260 viewsDejR_vu

Hopefully the Prem clubs all sue each other and the whole things implodes. The amount of money, greed and self-interest is vile.

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PSR breaches and compensation on 07:17 - Jun 11 with 3240 viewsDorse

Fck it. Re-run the last 43 seasons.

Edit: with the original players.
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