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In your opinion, who is the greatest goalie of all time?
Obviously, the question is triggered by Smithie's rising stature and superb save today coupled with the fact that David Seaman was honoured at the game today.
So how would you answer?
For me its a really hard question. My favourite goalie of all time is Phil Parkes because he was the wizard between the sticks when I first fell in love with QPR. But we have been blessed with some great goalies through the years: Peter Hucker, Chris Woods, the ever entertaining Budgie, Paddy Kenny, and now Smithie, to name a few highlights.
At the end of the day, I think the answer must be David Seaman. After all, he earned 75 England caps (Parkes had 1) and played in 2 world cups and two European Championships for his country. It could be argued that Ron Sprigett should be part of the conversation -- after all he earned 33 caps for England and was part of the World Cup winning squad in 1966.
Top 5 must be in no order Parkes, Seaman, Hucker, Kenny and Smithies. I'd go with top 3 In order as Seaman, Parkes, Smithies Parkes favorite for me in who I liked the best.
Springett was before my time but I feel he would have to be in the top three.
Nice to see Hucker getting mentions - one of the heroes of my young days especially after the FA Cup final. I never really forgave Jim Smith for continually picking Paul Barron ahead of him (though Barron was decent.)
On Parkes v Seaman, there is a case for either but I think you could argue that Parkes was at his peak when playing for QPR whereas Seaman was very, very good for us but probably that little bit better at Arsenal.
Stejskal ought to be in the top ten.
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Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 09:08 - Aug 6 with 5299 views
Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 09:47 - Aug 6 by californiahoop
Parkes, Seaman, Stejskal, Hucker, Green(seven clean sheets in a row gets him in)
I think seaman can't be on top due to him never saving a penalty and his shocker against Barnes in the FA cup quarter final. Hucker for me. He was immense in the finals.
This thread tells you one thing loud & clear : there have been very few periods over the last 50 or 60 years when we have NOT had a top keeper between the sticks. All of those featuring in this list have been massive for us, I'd even add Chris Day for a mention - solid for us in a difficult era, plus his save in the dying seconds of the play-off semi against Oldham (from Fitz Hall, of all people) has to be one of the greatest I've ever seen.
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Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 10:28 - Aug 6 with 5144 views
Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 09:01 - Aug 6 by CiderwithRsie
Springett was before my time but I feel he would have to be in the top three.
Nice to see Hucker getting mentions - one of the heroes of my young days especially after the FA Cup final. I never really forgave Jim Smith for continually picking Paul Barron ahead of him (though Barron was decent.)
On Parkes v Seaman, there is a case for either but I think you could argue that Parkes was at his peak when playing for QPR whereas Seaman was very, very good for us but probably that little bit better at Arsenal.
Stejskal ought to be in the top ten.
Seaman had that miserly back 4 at arsenal. I would have kept 20 clean sheets with them in front of me.
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Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 10:54 - Aug 6 with 5092 views
Thats true but he wasnt known as "Safe Hands" for nothing. Excellent keeper and could pull off a game changing save when required. That one against Sheff Utd where he somehow impossibly clawed out a certain goal and that save vs Germany at 1-1 when England went on to thrash them. Best keeper QPR had although not at his peak then IMO. Hopefully Smithies will out shine him.
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Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 10:58 - Aug 6 with 5086 views
Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 09:55 - Aug 6 by ozexile
I think seaman can't be on top due to him never saving a penalty and his shocker against Barnes in the FA cup quarter final. Hucker for me. He was immense in the finals.
Was he not the keeper at Watford for the penalty shoot out win in the league cup?Or is my memory playing tricks?
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Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 11:06 - Aug 6 with 5070 views
For me Spunky just ahead of Parkes with honourable mentions to Stejskal Woods then Camp,Hucker and Kenny and think Smithies might in time join the top 2 we have generally been blessed with good keepers admittedly many have had way too much practice
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Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 11:12 - Aug 6 with 5059 views
Surprised Springett hasn't even been mentioned but then again I doubt many saw him play (even me).
But we have been very lucky down the years to have some very decent keepers which makes this conversation difficult.
I also bet we are the only British club to have 3 keepers born in Czechoslovskia play for us! (Miklosko was Slovakian in the new arrangement the other two both Czech)
You want a keeper who is solid, consistent and every time the oppo attack, he doesn't leave you worrying you might shit yourself!
Thing about Seamen, you were never surprised by the goals he got beaten by. Nayim once, but the Ronaldinho goal was very poor. Never thought him that good when it came to free-kicks either. Barnes in the QF was a great belt, but I thought Seamen was slow to get to it, having left the whole goal for Barnes to aim at. Same for that wallop from Gazza at Wembley in the SF, it was at Seamen's near side to the post and he dived with the wrong arm. I don't want to undermine Giggs' goal in the SF, but I thought Seamen was diving backwards when he should have stood.
A good keeper depending on how little time was required to make a save. Never commanded the area enough and a bit too much like Rob Green. Although I will say this for Greeno, he played a blinder in the Poff Final.
Parkes was just solid. In any other era, he'd have amassed well over 100 caps. Smithies is the best we've had since Parkes and the fact we talk about him in such terms, says it all. However, thus far, whereas Parkes had a top-top outfit in front of him, Smithies hasn't, yet, but Parkesy faced the best players of the day and, thus far, Smithies hasn't been tested by the top-top. Both solid, with presence and an error is a rare thing.
Surprised not seen Chris Day mentioned yet. Equally reliable.
1. Parkes 2. Smithies 3. Day.
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Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 10:54 - Aug 6 by Toast_R
Thats true but he wasnt known as "Safe Hands" for nothing. Excellent keeper and could pull off a game changing save when required. That one against Sheff Utd where he somehow impossibly clawed out a certain goal and that save vs Germany at 1-1 when England went on to thrash them. Best keeper QPR had although not at his peak then IMO. Hopefully Smithies will out shine him.
He was a good keeper but in my opinion, Seaman had too many dodgy free kick moments throughout his career, starting with the Barnes free kick in the FA Cup quarter final (yes younger viewers you read that right, FA CUP QUARTER FINAL!) flapping wildly that he made a complete bollocks of, followed by: Gazza from 30+ yards in the cup semi at Wembley The Koeman "he's gonna flip one, he's gonna flip one now" in the WCQ in Holland Ronaldinho in the WC QF And topping it all, though not a free kick, "Nayim from the half way line"
Phil Parkes number 1 for me. Absolute nonsense that when he was at his peak, Ray Clemence stole probably 40-50 caps that Phil should have had due to Revie and Greenwood's insistence on picking as many Liverpool players as they could manage. As alluded to above with the Arsenal back four, Clemence was fortunate to have that Liverpool defence in front of him.
Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 12:13 - Aug 6 by PlanetHonneywood
You want a keeper who is solid, consistent and every time the oppo attack, he doesn't leave you worrying you might shit yourself!
Thing about Seamen, you were never surprised by the goals he got beaten by. Nayim once, but the Ronaldinho goal was very poor. Never thought him that good when it came to free-kicks either. Barnes in the QF was a great belt, but I thought Seamen was slow to get to it, having left the whole goal for Barnes to aim at. Same for that wallop from Gazza at Wembley in the SF, it was at Seamen's near side to the post and he dived with the wrong arm. I don't want to undermine Giggs' goal in the SF, but I thought Seamen was diving backwards when he should have stood.
A good keeper depending on how little time was required to make a save. Never commanded the area enough and a bit too much like Rob Green. Although I will say this for Greeno, he played a blinder in the Poff Final.
Parkes was just solid. In any other era, he'd have amassed well over 100 caps. Smithies is the best we've had since Parkes and the fact we talk about him in such terms, says it all. However, thus far, whereas Parkes had a top-top outfit in front of him, Smithies hasn't, yet, but Parkesy faced the best players of the day and, thus far, Smithies hasn't been tested by the top-top. Both solid, with presence and an error is a rare thing.
Surprised not seen Chris Day mentioned yet. Equally reliable.
1. Parkes 2. Smithies 3. Day.
Er... I have mentioned him already...
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Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 14:42 - Aug 6 with 4844 views
I may be wrong but hasn't the club broken the world record fee for a keeper three times with the sale of Reg Allen, Phil Parkes and David Seaman? Remembering my dear old Dad's opinions he rated both Allen and Parkes very highly and Seaman no where near as good. It was certainly Parkes for me over Seaman, Parkes commanded his area far better than Seaman ever did and it should also be remembered that Parkes was unfortunate to be playing in the same era as Shilton and Clemence, although I reckon he was better than Clemence. Woods was actually quite poor for us, Burridge produced the greatest save I have ever seen a Rangers keeper make away at Charlton in '81, twisting mid air to turn a deflected 30 harder that had been deflected over the bar. Hucker was a good keeper and brace enough to withstand the omniturf. Steyskjal was dodgy at first but became an excellent keeper for Rangers and probably the best keeper we have had until Smithies came along. I really rate Smithies and at the moment I would put him fourth behind Parkes, Steyskal and Seaman of the Rangers keepers I have watched since 1971.
Like many others, I have always been impressed / surprised at the number of quality keepers that have gone through Loftus Rd. One of these is head and shoulders above the rest, having plied his trade for Rangers when we were at the top of our game and him having to face the best strikers of the time week in week out, step forward Phil Parkes. I have wondered if, in the back of a goalies mind, that there is the recognition of QPR's connection to generations of top class stoppers, it would help answer why we are continually able to attract such?
Who is the Greatest QPR Goalie of All Time? on 09:17 - Aug 6 by Bluce_Ree
Rob Green.
Bruce, you are a legend, steadfastly sticking to your guns. I laughed out loud when I saw your post - King Rob in your eyes.
He wasn't even the best keeper at the club from the moment Smithies arrived, let alone all time.
Seaman was awesome from the moment he came through the door at Rangers. Always destined to be a great keeper and always would develop away from QPR.
Parkes was great too, but Seaman the one for me.
Smithies needs to stick with us for a couple of season's yet maintaining his form to be considered in the same breath as those too. Bloody good keeper though.
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