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Eze and expectations
at 23:10 26 Feb 2020

The bloke is class. Most of us recognise this. Great. Enjoy him.

But the right thing for the club to do is sell him this summer.

He has 12 months left on his contract from June. We cannot let this golden goose go for free.

We’ll finish on 55-60 points probably. We’d need to make up 15-20 points next year to be in the hunt for promotion. And we’ll have no money to invest in the team to do that with (unless we sell someone for big bucks...).

Do you really want to gamble letting Eze go for free in 12 months, with our defence, for a shot at the play offs?!

£20m gives us £10m to invest in the playing squad and £10m to book and give us breathing room against FFP whilst all around us flounder!

Accept it; he has to be sold. The time has come. Do not ask/demand he stay or the club keep him. It is short sighted. Good luck to him. He’ll be wearing the 3 lions in 12 months.

And Chair will take on the mantle.

As intended by Les and out strategy of the last 4 years.

I should add, £20m absolute bare minimum of clubs can Fark Off. He will piss all over some of these current Prem attacking midfielders.
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Eze is magic!!
at 23:02 26 Feb 2020

No, It doesn’t and they did not. Paul Scholes couldn’t tackle. Gary Linekar never closed down or tracked back. Pele and Messi have never worked hard off the ball.

If Eze was a terrier AND as good and dynamic as he is when we’re in possession, not only would he not be at QPR, he’d be a footballing freak. He’d have to cover 25km a game!

Name me one player who is technically gifted who works like Jamie Mackie?!

Eze works as hard as any good or great no. 10 currently or in the past.

He will lose out in 50:50s! The nature of that description indicates he’ll lose out half the bloody time! But he can do things other players can’t, 1:99.
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From no win in 5 to no defeats in 4
at 07:39 26 Feb 2020

Talent is not a constant. You don’t retain the same talent through your entire career or life. Your natural aptitude or flair for a particular skill can wax and wane.

Rooney had more talent, in his prime, of course. But he is no longer close to his prime, and, at this point in time possesses less talent than Eze. Clear?

No one can honestly say Gary Linekar IS more talented than Vardy, for example. He may have been more talented when he played though.
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Eze is magic!!
at 00:02 26 Feb 2020

Let’s go with both?!
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From no win in 5 to no defeats in 4
at 00:01 26 Feb 2020

But I don’t think he was the most talented on the pitch. Eze can do AND DID things Rooney cannot, certainly not anymore. Eze was the most talented player on the pitch by some distance.

Rooney was a poor man’s Graham Kavanagh.
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Eze is magic!!
at 23:58 25 Feb 2020

They are idiots then.
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From no win in 5 to no defeats in 4
at 23:55 25 Feb 2020

Agree.
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From no win in 5 to no defeats in 4
at 23:53 25 Feb 2020

Eze was far better than Rooney, Bri.

Would be convinced the stats bear that out.
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Cpt Grant Hall
at 23:51 25 Feb 2020

To add some balance, I actually thought he was pretty ropey second half (that long ball allowed to bounce through for Waghorn?!) and that Barbet, who I criticised earlier in the season, was the far better centre half of the two.

Given Hall’s supposed wage (almost BFG-esque), and his contract up this summer, i’d Let him go and back we’ll find two better or equal centre halves for the same money.
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Academy Education
at 23:48 25 Feb 2020

Agree.

The lad is talented. His touch shows that.

But he gives off this air of an arrogant teenager, but one who doesn't actually understand the game.

He got a bollocking for that air shot from one of our players but demonstrated back. No lad, you fcked up and were lucky it didn’t cost us 2 points.

He tried the same piece of trickery twice in succession when coming on and neither worked.

He seemed to either refuse to make the channel run for the long channel ball, or didn’t realise our shake at the time and game situation required it,

I would suggest he is a minimum of one year behind Eze in development. Eze gets the ball with a clear of. Idea of what he needs to and will do with it, for the team’s benefit, and he often delivers that.

Clarke looks like he has himself first in his mind, but even then doesn't know what he should be doing or the position.

On the tiny amount we’ve seen (granted!), I wouldn't value him at more than £2m in any deal with Eze.

Eze must be worth £20m cash in this market before any players come into it.
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MOM has to be Dom Ball
at 23:40 25 Feb 2020

Dom Ball is becoming a bit of a cult hero for me.

He had a stormer today, especially first half. Love the way he opens up his body when he receives the ball and plays it forwards. He is so much better than I expected. Some of his touch and passing in the first half was superb. Plus he got away with two rugby tackles on Rooney when the wrong side, and taking out Stroud. Just needs a goal now.

From now on, i’ll be referring to him as Dominic Baller.
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Eze is magic!!
at 23:35 25 Feb 2020

Agree.

He was the best player on the pitch by a mile. Close control, passing, movement, interceptions, tackles, an assist, even a fcking spider kick (or whatever you call it) thrown in there. Pissed all over Wayne.

The second half was a masterclass.

It’s very easy to get complacent with what we’re seeing from him. The expectation that he’ll always drift past his man, make the pass, get there first, is so high. But when he does it, which is often, he is owning games. There were times in the second half he was drawing 4 Derby players towards him and still getting the ball out to a teammate.

We must recognise and appreciate when he is magnificent. Today was another day like that.

The bloke is class.
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just back
at 22:26 25 Feb 2020

Eze put on a masterclass second half. Dom Ball second best player for us. By far the better of him and Cameron.
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Caroline Flack
at 22:29 17 Feb 2020

Excellent post.

Whilst social media undoubtedly has a negative effect on people’s mental health, and reality tv feeds off social media and the cult of celebrity, Northants is spot on. Any suicide is extremely sad; someone’s daughter or son, someone’s mother or father, some’s friend decided they could not continue. It is extremely sad.
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Dubrovnik
at 06:53 13 Feb 2020

Makarska up the coast is underrated. We found a wonderful apartment over looking the beach with great sea views and a roof terrace reserved for the handful of apartments that looked out over the whole bay.

It’s somewhere between Dubrovnik and Split, but we did a weekend in the former, got a boat up the coast, stopping along the way, and then a shuttle to Split to fly home at the end. A boat is a great way to see the coast. The scenery and landscape on the Dalmatian coast is spectacular.
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Les Ferdinand
at 07:57 7 Feb 2020

Astonishing.

No mention that we’ve done what you say whilst having to manage a reduction in wage bill of about £65m! Remarkable to go from an unsustainable wage bill of £80m p.a. that was going to kill the club to less than £20m p.a. Without getting worse. In fact, we’re better off! Unlike then we have players that our valuable!

We all want is to be better and higher in the league.

But the way you undervalue/ignore Les’ key role is a disgrace. Warburton has nothing to do with the recruitment of the likes of Eze, BOS, and Chair. Anything achieved as a result of Chris Ramsey, Paul Hall, Andy Impey, or Paul Furlong IS Les’ responsibility! He hired them and put that set up in place.

Amazing someone can be so blind to reality.
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Is Tone a bit distracted
at 20:45 2 Feb 2020

And what would happen when, having invested X amount, you were outvoted by other investors and a decision was made you disagreed with?
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Toni Leistner to FC Koln?
at 19:24 30 Jan 2020

Good luck to the bloke.

I understand the logic given his supposed salary.

But he was our best centre back. Most headed clearances in the league last year; you don’t do that by being a bad centre half or being poor positionally.

Before he joined when Onouha and Robinson left everyone was calling for a “kick it, head it”, no nonsense bast*rd. That’s what we got. Then people were calling for a Lacey ball playing centre half. We’re a difficult group to please.

But Toni did his job, put his head where it hurt, got messed about by Warbs in the summer, didn’t kick off, and came back and did his job. Sure, he made mistakes but fewer than Barbet and Hall, and he stayed fit longer! Not in future plans and expensive so we are where we are.

Good luck, Toni.
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Cameron / Amos
at 11:09 29 Jan 2020

Completely agree.
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Rovers Return Match Thread
at 20:29 28 Jan 2020

Good point!! Who’s in the luminous yellow boots?? He put in a weak attempt, but orange boots (think Cameron) looked to have lost him.
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