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Forgotten foes from Second Division
at 16:18 19 Aug 2019

Parkin is a good shout, always stuck with me how he did well against us.

Not quite that timeframe but Jon Stead is another one that seemed to love playing us, I feel like I've seen him score against QPR every time we play a team he's in, including a pearler for Bristol City?

For Plymouth, I always remember Paul Wotton and although he came a bit later, Gary Sawyer. The latter because he came from Bideford Town where I was living around 2003, so was always talked about by the lads there.

Also used to sign *Tommy Mooney for us on that version of Championship Manager, he was always a free transfer and banged them in.

*correction
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Bidwell
at 12:01 19 Aug 2019

Assisted their winner on Saturday and I reckon he will be bang up for this.

Hopefully, he gets a good acknowledgment and we get on with it, no fanfare required but I'd also be disappointed to hear anything negative.
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FREEMAN
at 17:06 15 Aug 2019

Too late, we're enemies for life.
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Chair
at 16:43 15 Aug 2019

Agree with this. Plus, he's been hyping himself since he went to Stevenage on loan - he's a 1 man highlight reel.
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Goss and other fringe players
at 16:41 15 Aug 2019

I'm not at that level of hatred for him, but I certainly won't be losing any sleep thinking we've let a potential player go here. Huge waste of money for us all told, but we cut our losses and move on.
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Chair
at 11:56 15 Aug 2019

Chair is legit as fck.

Let's hope that contract is all but done because he's our next big (little) thing on this basis.
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FREEMAN
at 11:54 15 Aug 2019

Certain players that come and go I don't care about, they're just in the 'played for us once' category. But people like Furlong, Freeman, etc. Why would I not be interested in what they do after QPR? They did their time and earned their moves and I hope they smash it.

Love seeing ex-QPR boys do well.
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Goss and other fringe players
at 18:02 13 Aug 2019

Fck him. If he hadn't come through the Man U academy he would never have got the deal he did and if he was desperate to just play football, he wouldn't still be kicking around in Harlington.

It's not his fault he has the contract we gave him, but he doesn't have to take a wage cut to go on loan and potentially become an asset for us, and for all his apparent talent it's odd he could barely get a game for St Johnstone.

I guess targeting him specifically is a tad unfair as my ire is actually for his ilk - young players with good agents who secure lucrative contracts for hefty contract fees without actually earning them. An example of one of the worst aspects of modern football and he epitomises it.
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Goss and other fringe players
at 13:36 13 Aug 2019

Every time I see Goss's name it boils my piss. I don't care what caveats people want to show, he's had about as many professional appearances as he's had birthdays and he's 5 years into a 'pro career' that allows him to drive a Mercedes tank and live very comfortably, based on what? A half-decent set of performances at academy level?

If he can't get a sniff in a Warburton team full of young, ball-playing lads that concentrate on possession (which I've been told is what he's actually good at), then he has no chance and it has to be about poor application, attitude, ability, or all 3.

He remains the worst signing of the last few years and I can't wait for him to be off the books and tumbling down the leagues.
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FREEMAN
at 13:29 13 Aug 2019

These are also my own 'conclusions'. Furlong may get unlucky here as that Ferguson at RB looks to be doing a Max Aarons and coming out the academy as a ready-made 1st teamer
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Chair.
at 16:28 9 Aug 2019

He is keen to play there and did well in more advanced role end of last season. He can also drop back comfortably when we need him to so nice to have some flexibility without needing to make a sub.
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Chair.
at 13:44 9 Aug 2019

He's going nowhere.

Chair, Eze, Pugh, BOS, Shodipo, Scowen are all going to rotate in the 3 positions behind the striker for the season. There will be good minutes for all.
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Wells?
at 11:19 9 Aug 2019

When are people going to realise that you don't need a picture of a player in a QPR tracksuit at 6 years old for that person to be considered a QPR product. If you come here and enter our youth system it's because you're not ready for professional football.

If we spend X years getting you ready and then you play in our first team, we can take credit for the development.

You can talk about Furs being the only 'true' example if you like, but pre-Langley we couldn't even sign a 17 year old academy lad and get him into our squad, so stop looking for a negative where it doesn't exist and be happy that we have a system and the personnel to turn potential into players at a rate we haven't seen for decades.
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Wells?
at 11:14 9 Aug 2019

I was in almost exactly this camp when I first heard about the move, I thought it was gratuitous and a bit of a piss-take to plead poverty but get ANOTHER PL loan. I am still in the 'make do' rather than 'double down' mindset.

But a few points, some of which have already been highlighted...

- Oteh isn't ready, saw him in pre-season and Warburton has had a good look. He didn't list Oteh in his available strikers so he's clearly going back to U23's or on loan. That leaves 2 strikers MW feels are 1st team quality, which isn't enough
- MW has had time to look at Malakay properly and perhaps he feels although he's able to do a job in support, if Hugill got injured, etc than relying on him would be too much for the lad and he wants a more proven option as back up / competition
- Wells is proven to us, in terms of character, ability and whatever else. He's known, the younger lads connected with him and he wants to come here even when he had other options (same as Cameron)
- He will be good and suits the style we want to play, you have to think with his ability and movement that he can do even better than last year under a mostly negative style
- He won't cost as much as last season - this is a fair amount of speculation, but he's in his last year, it was on deadline day with Burnley keen to shift him and it's not a knee jerk reaction to us losing our first 4 games and only having Matt Smith to pick

All in all I think the good outweighs the bad here.
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Wells?
at 18:31 8 Aug 2019

Had a bit more time to mull this over today and with Oteh seemingly out of the 1st team picture, I'm pretty pleased we've got Wells to compete with Hugill and Malarkey as back up. With obvious caveats of...

1) The % of his wages and loan fee are both reasonable and we've not spent money just because we happen to have some now
2) There's a chance we can make this perm if it all goes well and he's up for it (I understand he's in his last year, right?)
3) We don't do a McClaren and decide to throw out the system we've been working on all summer to suddenly play both 1st team quality strikers at the same time

I'm fairly confident we won't do number 3 and this will be another example of 2 first-team players for each position to encourage competition and have good cover i.e. Rangel/Kane, Wallace/Manning, Amos/Smith, Lumley/Kelly, etc
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Luongo..
at 18:26 8 Aug 2019

More honest
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Luongo..
at 13:44 8 Aug 2019

Have they?? Not seen that reported by either Sean or Sheffield press. Thought some Ozzie no-mark site said 3.3m but nobody anywhere else has said anything specific other than there was a fee involved?
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Last minute bids for Eze..........
at 12:22 6 Aug 2019

This. Maddison, Brooks, Sawyers and Eze are all similar - all are young and coachable with good attitudes, so the difference seems to me to be end product and potential.

- Maddison had both (14 goals and double figure assists in his last season with Norwich I think it was?), played for England U21’s and was also technically proficient enough to be a set piece specialist. He’s also English which adds a premium, so he went for about the maximum you can get - £20m.

- Brooks had a lot of potential but wasn’t quite a 1st team choice and had an injury or two, so went for a slightly inflated £11m and subsequently made the step up quicker than people expected. There was a lot of hype around him even before he made many 1st team appearances and they didn’t need to sell, which helped Sheff U.

- Sawyers got some assists last season (roughly 7 according to the interwebs) but did he score many / any? Not sure if he did… He also wanted to go ‘home’ to WBA and had a year left I believe, hence the £3m

If Eze gets 10+ goals and some assists, remains injury-free and shows he’s capable of carrying this team occasionally, I reckon we could get £12-£15m for him. The hype in the football world about him is good, you hear pundits and studio people mentioning him even when they clearly don’t know much about QPR generally. He’s also going to have glowing references from respected youth coaches like Chris Ramsey, which carries a lot of weight for buying clubs.

Fingers crossed he really goes up a gear this season and adds end product to his game – a more attacking remit and encouragement to take people on / shoot regularly will be a good start!
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Summer Transfers
at 17:05 1 Aug 2019

22 goals and double-figure assists for a team that came 2nd last season after just avoiding relegation the year before. Some stats...

Kasey Palmer is a really good buy for Bristol, as PP says him and DaSilva are exactly the sort of young English players that PL teams will drop £10m+ for after a good season.
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The positivity is oozing.
at 16:48 1 Aug 2019

Exactly this, even in a dull game that we lose, one or both of these guys can do something that gets you off your seat. Knowing that with every game they get a little better / little more valuable for us will be a silver lining regardless.

Between Eze, Chair, and Bright, it's great to have exciting players coming through that do all the things you like to see most at the football. If any of them add a consistent end product to their games, it'll be great to watch and money in the bank for the future.

Harbours point also a good one. We're not ever going to have Eze's potential realised if we allow too much of this 'he's shit, he's lazy' bóllocks to permeate. Support him unequivocally and see where it takes him/us.
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