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Just something that crossed my mind on Saturday, but does Chris Beech get the credit that he deserves..? Fair enough, Flicker is a dale legend and always has been, but the club has had more success with Beech at the helm of assistant manager than we did under Flicker - he's manager of BURY now, and still gets more songs sung about him in one game than Beechy has had throughout his incredibly successful tenure.
In addition to this he's also been the man who developed Cannon, Camps, Allen, and a few others - work of a genius.
Really think he deserves a lot more credit than he is due and when Keith does eventually move on (hopefully not to soon) Beech would be my outright first choice.
I could be wrong, but I thInk some people have misunderstood why there were songs about Flitcroft on Saturday.
I sang them out if respect for Flicker and everything he did at the club... and to obviously taunt the away fans - I should imagine this was why they were sung...
Just slightly uncomfortable with the fact that Beech doesn't get anywhere close to the same recognition despite the fact that, for me, he's done a better job.
Think the actual point of the post is being ignored.Just some genuine recognition of the bloke. Nothing wrong with the chants whatsoever, but it just hit me the lack of recognition he gets for his work.
Think the actual point of the post is being ignored.Just some genuine recognition of the bloke. Nothing wrong with the chants whatsoever, but it just hit me the lack of recognition he gets for his work.
Yes, I'd agree with you about Beech, although there aren't many assistants who get recognition anywhere.
I suppose with Flitcroft it's more because him and Hill were always associated as a pair, rather than two separate people, hence 'Hillcroft'.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
Agree Beechy doesn't always get the accolades he deserves I think the same can go for a lot of the back room staff. BBM seems to be a positive influence and I'm not sure Donal would be with us if it wasn't for him listening to some past interviews.
What would you like to see? A statue of Chris Beech erected in the club car park?
I think you have completely misunderstood the irony of the chants - I don't think they were praising him for the work he did whilst Assistant Manager here.
Yes Beech does a good job, as did Flitcroft, as did Brian Kidd to Alex Ferguson, as did Peter Taylor to Brian Clough, as did Bob Paisley to Bill Shankly (ok he went on to achieve great things) but I don't recall chants praising an assistant manager!
Not the most glamorous position at any club.When things are going well the manager gets the praise.Invariably when things go wrong the person in that position is "doomed"by association and gets the sack either when the manager goes or as soon as a new manager is appointed Personally think he has done a good job at Dale and if Keith moves on to better things rather then be sacked by the club feel that Beech should and would be given the chance to be the new man in charge
Possibly influenced by the short but dreary spell as stand-in manager during the Eyre-Coleman interregnum, which is perhaps unfair.
Plus, Flicker was a stand-out player for Dale, not always for the right reasons! But it made him a figure to warm to.
I think you put your finger on it: when in December 2011 KH jumped ship to go to Barnsley, Beech was manager for about five weeks, for 6 matches of which 3 were drawn and 3 lost. Coleman was brought in to save Dale's L1 status, but the decline continued.
But what happened over four years ago shouldn't count for much now.