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a friend of mine just put a photo of Reg Jenkins on facebook and got me thinking about dale legends, so here is my pick from watching dale through the years, not recently of course so mainly old players from 60's and 70's
Manager Harry Catterick
GK Ted Burgin fantastic keeper RB Grahame Smith proper legend LB Stan Milburn a legend and half RHB Laurie Galloway CH Ray Aspen LHB Joe Ashworth OR Norman Whitehead a wizard unstoppable shades of Stan Mathews IR Reg Jenkins best player ever in a dale shirt legend hero and saint CF Frank Lord my first Dale super star IL Billy Rudd superb outstanding played the game at his own pace OL Denis Butler a genuine wide winger with 20 goals a season
bench CF Tony Buck a phenomenal goal per game ratio always scored tragic loss LB Derick Ryder IL Ronnie Cairns IR George Morton LHB Joe? Thompson GK Les Green CF Joe? cant remember this lads name scored 20 goals 1967/8 season OR David Storff OL Colin Wittaker
Re George Morton,that was typical of Dale. The worst one ever was swapping Billy Rudd for Alf Arrowsmith from Bury. Can`t recall if Len Richley was still the manager then,or if Dick Conner had taken over,but it left us completely gobsmacked as it came right out of the blue.
I thought Alf Arrowsmith was a decent player. He was all set to be a big star at Liverpool before he got a bad injury ( knee I think ). He did OK for the 'Dale but I agree Billy Rudd was badly missed.
I couldn't believe reading the Ob to find out we had released George Morton your right him and Reg were our star players I remember the season we signed Morton and Paul Moulden both were young players 19 or 20 years old. Moulden scored 2 on debut and was quickly sold after about a dozen games or so to Peterborough, in my mind Morton was the better player.
Tony Moulden.
Paul Moulden, his son, played in 95/96.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
George Morton carved himself a wonderful career in non league football with Bangor City scoring well over 100 goals, he returned to Spotland in our Fa Cup defeat to Bangor in 1972..He also played for Everton in both legs of the 1961Fa Youth Cup final. Had he had a little more pace he would have probably been an Everton legend.
George Morton carved himself a wonderful career in non league football with Bangor City scoring well over 100 goals, he returned to Spotland in our Fa Cup defeat to Bangor in 1972..He also played for Everton in both legs of the 1961Fa Youth Cup final. Had he had a little more pace he would have probably been an Everton legend.
Yeah I remember the Bangor game. I can't say I recall George playing but that was a day to forget.
George Morton carved himself a wonderful career in non league football with Bangor City scoring well over 100 goals, he returned to Spotland in our Fa Cup defeat to Bangor in 1972..He also played for Everton in both legs of the 1961Fa Youth Cup final. Had he had a little more pace he would have probably been an Everton legend.
Before my time, but the Bangor team was:
Clarke Williams Jones Smith R Hughes Atherton Penrose Crossley Marsden J Hughes Brodie
Goals scored by Marsden & Brodie.
George Morton moved to Bangor in 1967, but wasn't in the side that played at Spotland in the FA Cup, if indeed he was still with them then.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
George Morton carved himself a wonderful career in non league football with Bangor City scoring well over 100 goals, he returned to Spotland in our Fa Cup defeat to Bangor in 1972..He also played for Everton in both legs of the 1961Fa Youth Cup final. Had he had a little more pace he would have probably been an Everton legend.
I was there at the fa cup game v Bangor City (btw is Bangor a city?) when Morton was head and shoulders above anybody else. A fantastic player for us and as someone else mentioned we turned down what was understood to be a decent offer for him the same season and at a time when we couldn't give players away. Its still a mystery to me how such a good player went non league he was still only in his 20s and went on to to play for several years at Bangor...
found this on a Bangor City site which seems to contradict my memories somewhat. Forward George Morton, another gifted goalscorer, with if I remember rightly some very bow legged legs! But that is not worthy of entry, what is remembered is George's eye for a goal and "cheeky chappy" persona which shone through on the dullest afternoon. George Morton was born in Liverpool and began his career as an apprentice with Everton but moved on to Rochdale July 1962. Inbetween 1962-65 he made 147 League appearances scoring 50 goals, notching 55 in 161 in all competions. After leaving Spotland he moved to New Brighton.
Clarke Williams Jones Smith R Hughes Atherton Penrose Crossley Marsden J Hughes Brodie
Goals scored by Marsden & Brodie.
George Morton moved to Bangor in 1967, but wasn't in the side that played at Spotland in the FA Cup, if indeed he was still with them then.
My post was meant to say I didn't recall George playing that game so I altered it. Was the Crossley Paul Crossley ? He was a Rochdale lad that had a few games with us before being sold to Preston in the mid 1960's. He knocked around the lower leagues for a while after that. Bangor's star man that day was their centre half and captain, he was an old pro who played at top level and got either a boot or his head to everything we could throw at them.
My post was meant to say I didn't recall George playing that game so I altered it. Was the Crossley Paul Crossley ? He was a Rochdale lad that had a few games with us before being sold to Preston in the mid 1960's. He knocked around the lower leagues for a while after that. Bangor's star man that day was their centre half and captain, he was an old pro who played at top level and got either a boot or his head to everything we could throw at them.
I never saw what you wrote; it was hammerdale who said Morton returned with Bangor.
Paul Crossley never played for Bangor; he was with Tranmere at the time of the Bangor cup tie (and actually played over 200 league games for them) and later had two seasons with Chester, before playing in the USA.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
Morton was definately in the Bangor squad that day, I remember speaking to him before the game about his Rochdale days. Can only think he must have been sub.
Morton was definately in the Bangor squad that day, I remember speaking to him before the game about his Rochdale days. Can only think he must have been sub.
Ws there subs back then?... I was convinced he played I still am but TVOS says he didn't as did another poster. I'm not questioning TVOS research he gets most things right or the other poster Ming's recollection although I guess I am. Maybe the match program, often printed mid week had a late change? maybe someone else who was there can confirm yes or no?
And Paul sadly died at the age of only 47 out in the States over 20 years ago
Arthur Daley and myself played with Paul Crossley in the late fifties for Heybrook Junior School. Think it was 1958 we won the Cup against Meanwood,3-0 at Lenny Barn,little Johnny McIntosh scoring all three. Mick Wood was in goal for Meanwood that day,a really nice lad who I later met at the Tech,but sadly he`s no longer with us now either. Paul`s dad later arranged for all us kids to get a medal,we thought we`d won the FA Cup.
Arthur Daley and myself played with Paul Crossley in the late fifties for Heybrook Junior School. Think it was 1958 we won the Cup against Meanwood,3-0 at Lenny Barn,little Johnny McIntosh scoring all three. Mick Wood was in goal for Meanwood that day,a really nice lad who I later met at the Tech,but sadly he`s no longer with us now either. Paul`s dad later arranged for all us kids to get a medal,we thought we`d won the FA Cup.
Nice story DiddyDave but sad to hear that Paul Crossley and Mick Wood not being with us. Mick Wood was a nice guy and a very good goalkeeper I knew him well played many a 10half time 20up games on Spotland Rec his dad had a pub in Norden so he always supplied fags after the games not many 10 year olds carried an endless supply of 20 Player or Captain Full strength in their pockets his dad must have known? That Meanwood team would have included Stewart Hartley and maybe Pete Coleman? Meanwood were always a top team I wish I went there with my mates unfortunately being a left footer I had to traipse across town to St Pats who when I played for them never won a game we didn't even score a goal. Think that team that Casper played for only not as good. We were so poor in them days we couldn't afford boots or shorts or a ball mind you the priest lived in the lap of luxury.
Nice story DiddyDave but sad to hear that Paul Crossley and Mick Wood not being with us. Mick Wood was a nice guy and a very good goalkeeper I knew him well played many a 10half time 20up games on Spotland Rec his dad had a pub in Norden so he always supplied fags after the games not many 10 year olds carried an endless supply of 20 Player or Captain Full strength in their pockets his dad must have known? That Meanwood team would have included Stewart Hartley and maybe Pete Coleman? Meanwood were always a top team I wish I went there with my mates unfortunately being a left footer I had to traipse across town to St Pats who when I played for them never won a game we didn't even score a goal. Think that team that Casper played for only not as good. We were so poor in them days we couldn't afford boots or shorts or a ball mind you the priest lived in the lap of luxury.
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I knew Stewart Hartley,good player and a nice lad. I remember playing St.Pats on Lenny Barn one day in the snow. As you say,they were bloody hopeless,25 minutes each way,we beat them 10-0. I knew the goalie who lived up Belfield,can`t recall his name now,but the poor kid was stood shivering on his line and I smacked the ball against the square crossbar whereupon a heap of icicles rained down on his head!! We also got them all out for 6 when we played them at cricket. Great days,all us kids who played for Heybrook couldn`t wait for Saturday mornings,we had a good side,but still lost a few.
Morton was definately in the Bangor squad that day, I remember speaking to him before the game about his Rochdale days. Can only think he must have been sub.
Yes, that’s possible, although the sub never came on so it isn’t in the records.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
Ws there subs back then?... I was convinced he played I still am but TVOS says he didn't as did another poster. I'm not questioning TVOS research he gets most things right or the other poster Ming's recollection although I guess I am. Maybe the match program, often printed mid week had a late change? maybe someone else who was there can confirm yes or no?
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The team I posted is from the Observer and the National Football Archive. Neither of them mention the sub, but there would have been one as they started in the mid-1960s.
When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?
Stu Hartley later went to the Tech and Pete Coleman went to the Grammar school. I played with and against both of them many times. I even managed to keep Stu quiet for one game. No mean achievement because he was a real handful when he was in the mood. Two good lads.
The team I posted is from the Observer and the National Football Archive. Neither of them mention the sub, but there would have been one as they started in the mid-1960s.
I suppose those who say I shouldn't comment on games I haven't watched have a point. I cant even get it right about games I did watch.
Stu Hartley later went to the Tech and Pete Coleman went to the Grammar school. I played with and against both of them many times. I even managed to keep Stu quiet for one game. No mean achievement because he was a real handful when he was in the mood. Two good lads.
That's right Ming Stu Hartley went to the Tech he lived just down the road from me on Ings lane Pete Coleman went to the Grammar school he was posh his dad owned a shop on Rooley Moor road across from the white Lion. If you played against them on a regular basis you must have been a better player than me both played at the highest amateur level in Rochdale both stu and Pete started off at Milton then another top team who's name I cant remember? I knew a lot of the Milton team and most of the top players in town not that I was one of them, Its possible i might know you what teams did you play for?
I played against Stu at school and later on when I was playing for St Lukes in the youth leagues I played against both of them, I can't recall what team they played for. I was with them right in the early days at Milton before I got a serious injury and more or less packed in playing.
A gang of us used to meet up on TBA's ground on Sunday afternoons for informal games. Whoever could get out of bed by 2.00 pm after a skinfull on Saturday night. Geoff Foster would be in goals for one team. Johnny Langton, Dave Platt, John " Bunny " Harvey, Stu Hartley Peter Colman, Steve Wild , Robbo ( Alan Robinson ) , Keith Hill, Brian Gill, Nipper Harris, Paul Guy. Plus quite a few who's names I've forgotten. The nucleus of the Milton team I suppose. Good footballers all of them. I don't want to give too much away as I like my anonymity.
The other team you may be thinking of could be Nelson Nomads or maybe the Abbey ?
I played against Stu at school and later on when I was playing for St Lukes in the youth leagues I played against both of them, I can't recall what team they played for. I was with them right in the early days at Milton before I got a serious injury and more or less packed in playing.
A gang of us used to meet up on TBA's ground on Sunday afternoons for informal games. Whoever could get out of bed by 2.00 pm after a skinfull on Saturday night. Geoff Foster would be in goals for one team. Johnny Langton, Dave Platt, John " Bunny " Harvey, Stu Hartley Peter Colman, Steve Wild , Robbo ( Alan Robinson ) , Keith Hill, Brian Gill, Nipper Harris, Paul Guy. Plus quite a few who's names I've forgotten. The nucleus of the Milton team I suppose. Good footballers all of them. I don't want to give too much away as I like my anonymity.
The other team you may be thinking of could be Nelson Nomads or maybe the Abbey ?
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Blimey, Ming, I had a pint with Keith Hill last night. Top bloke , for a Burnley fan.
I played against Stu at school and later on when I was playing for St Lukes in the youth leagues I played against both of them, I can't recall what team they played for. I was with them right in the early days at Milton before I got a serious injury and more or less packed in playing.
A gang of us used to meet up on TBA's ground on Sunday afternoons for informal games. Whoever could get out of bed by 2.00 pm after a skinfull on Saturday night. Geoff Foster would be in goals for one team. Johnny Langton, Dave Platt, John " Bunny " Harvey, Stu Hartley Peter Colman, Steve Wild , Robbo ( Alan Robinson ) , Keith Hill, Brian Gill, Nipper Harris, Paul Guy. Plus quite a few who's names I've forgotten. The nucleus of the Milton team I suppose. Good footballers all of them. I don't want to give too much away as I like my anonymity.
The other team you may be thinking of could be Nelson Nomads or maybe the Abbey ?
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There were two Steve Wilds. One was Bob Wild`s brother,the other called himself Billy,a small lad,very good footballer,think he joined the Royal Navy?
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