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My point is do they practice this situation on a regular basis I was not surprised in the slightest when one went wide and one blazed over.
why are we lacking in such a basic concept of hitting the target and making the keeper work?
Lets hope for an improvement on Sunday.
There was a stat doing the rounds at the weekend that Ronaldo had missed from something like 40+ consecutive tournament free-kicks before last Friday's goal...
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Undoubted knowledge? Or just the application of common sense and using my brain?
It's nonsense that Young can't cross with his left foot, thus hindering our forward momentum and which may well lead to him being dropped in favour of Rose? That being the case, Kane would be better taking the direct free kicks around the box as of now. Logical, not nonsense
It's nonsense that it's not an advantage to be able to strike a ball effectively with either foot? Having that option alone can be enough to confer an advantage after the wall is positioned. Logical, not nonsense
I'd say Kane's penalty against Dale was THE best example of someone striking a dead ball with deadly pace and precision last season. Logical, not nonsense
All in all, i'll take my 'nonsense' over your failed logic, thanks
You’re talking about general play though, which isn’t what the discussion is about.. youngs tendancy to cut back due to his lack of left foot has no baring in whether he is a worthy set piece taker..
There’s a reason why young is on free kicks and kane isn’t.. but of course you know better, as usual.
You’re talking about general play though, which isn’t what the discussion is about.. youngs tendancy to cut back due to his lack of left foot has no baring in whether he is a worthy set piece taker..
There’s a reason why young is on free kicks and kane isn’t.. but of course you know better, as usual.
I've given my reasons why I believe Kane would be the better option, all perfectly valid
I'm a fan of Southgate as national coach, and was right from when his name was being put forward for the role, against many (including yourself?) who thought him 'boring' and not worthy of it. Without digging out the thread, i know my instinct wasn't wrong
He won't get everything right, but I'm loving his approach. Just like KH at Dale, we can disagree about certain aspects of team selection and tactics. His reasons for having Young on free kicks isn't a major issue and if he pops one in i'll be delighted for him
None of which is nonsense, and i'll stick with my opinion that we have a better option against yours, so keep plugging away and getting nowhere
I heard that stat about Ronaldo as well. Was it 45 matches? I think I'm right in saying as well that Beckham had a shocking conversion rate from direct freekicks but once he'd fired that one in at Greece at Old Trafford that was forgotten.
I've given my reasons why I believe Kane would be the better option, all perfectly valid
I'm a fan of Southgate as national coach, and was right from when his name was being put forward for the role, against many (including yourself?) who thought him 'boring' and not worthy of it. Without digging out the thread, i know my instinct wasn't wrong
He won't get everything right, but I'm loving his approach. Just like KH at Dale, we can disagree about certain aspects of team selection and tactics. His reasons for having Young on free kicks isn't a major issue and if he pops one in i'll be delighted for him
None of which is nonsense, and i'll stick with my opinion that we have a better option against yours, so keep plugging away and getting nowhere
I'm sorry but did you watch Euro 2016. Kane is not a free kick taker and that has been proven so that's fact not logical or opinion. There's a different skill to taking a free kick over a penalty just because you have a good penalty record does not mean this will translate to being good at free kicks.
I'm sorry but did you watch Euro 2016. Kane is not a free kick taker and that has been proven so that's fact not logical or opinion. There's a different skill to taking a free kick over a penalty just because you have a good penalty record does not mean this will translate to being good at free kicks.
I tend not to read more of your posts than I need too to be honest. I presume you talked a lot of nonsense in those too? (Coming from me that's really saying something)
I've given my reasons why I believe Kane would be the better option, all perfectly valid
I'm a fan of Southgate as national coach, and was right from when his name was being put forward for the role, against many (including yourself?) who thought him 'boring' and not worthy of it. Without digging out the thread, i know my instinct wasn't wrong
He won't get everything right, but I'm loving his approach. Just like KH at Dale, we can disagree about certain aspects of team selection and tactics. His reasons for having Young on free kicks isn't a major issue and if he pops one in i'll be delighted for him
None of which is nonsense, and i'll stick with my opinion that we have a better option against yours, so keep plugging away and getting nowhere
Southgate has made a good fist of the England job, there is no doubt about that. One thing he has done differently to his predecessors is pick a system and picked players to fit that system, rather than relying on experience and trying to shoe horn in England's 'big' players.
My main gripe with Southgate (and it still stands now) is that he is under qualified for the job. Say what you want about the England national team, but it is still one of the biggest jobs in world football, what exactly has he done to earn that job?
Does Southgate have the tactical nouse to change a knockout game if it isn't going our way? it remains to be seen, but he is slow to make a change and has shown in previous friendlies (Nigeria being a prime example) that if a team work's out our system, he can't then make the necessary changes to get us back on top.
This team is far better than people are giving it credit for, it lacks a little bit in central midfield, but we have enough quality and pace going forward and a solid base with 3 central defenders to hurt the bigger teams on the counter (see Mexico vs Germany).
Southgate has made a good fist of the England job, there is no doubt about that. One thing he has done differently to his predecessors is pick a system and picked players to fit that system, rather than relying on experience and trying to shoe horn in England's 'big' players.
My main gripe with Southgate (and it still stands now) is that he is under qualified for the job. Say what you want about the England national team, but it is still one of the biggest jobs in world football, what exactly has he done to earn that job?
Does Southgate have the tactical nouse to change a knockout game if it isn't going our way? it remains to be seen, but he is slow to make a change and has shown in previous friendlies (Nigeria being a prime example) that if a team work's out our system, he can't then make the necessary changes to get us back on top.
This team is far better than people are giving it credit for, it lacks a little bit in central midfield, but we have enough quality and pace going forward and a solid base with 3 central defenders to hurt the bigger teams on the counter (see Mexico vs Germany).
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I might be overthinking things, but I think Southgate purposefully didn't make changes too quickly in that Nigeria friendly as he wanted to see how the team reacted to being put under pressure when defending a lead.
Southgate has made a good fist of the England job, there is no doubt about that. One thing he has done differently to his predecessors is pick a system and picked players to fit that system, rather than relying on experience and trying to shoe horn in England's 'big' players.
My main gripe with Southgate (and it still stands now) is that he is under qualified for the job. Say what you want about the England national team, but it is still one of the biggest jobs in world football, what exactly has he done to earn that job?
Does Southgate have the tactical nouse to change a knockout game if it isn't going our way? it remains to be seen, but he is slow to make a change and has shown in previous friendlies (Nigeria being a prime example) that if a team work's out our system, he can't then make the necessary changes to get us back on top.
This team is far better than people are giving it credit for, it lacks a little bit in central midfield, but we have enough quality and pace going forward and a solid base with 3 central defenders to hurt the bigger teams on the counter (see Mexico vs Germany).
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I'm happy with Southgate and he's done great so far preparing for this tournament. I think the main thing is getting the players relaxed enough to not freeze under pressure - something we've done in numerous tournaments with supposedly great tactician's as managers and a 'golden generation' of players : Denmark,Greece,Italy,Portugal,Czech,Holland have all shown that you don't necessarily have to have the best players/team to win a tournament or reach a final. You are right that Southgate hasn't done much as a club boss but maybe he's just suited to this England job!?! He seems to be learning as he goes and comes across very well in interviews and seems an intelligent man. He also played his majority of England games under Venables and Hoddle who are both regarded as very good tactically - hopefully Southgate will have learnt a lot under them. Southgate is also the most unique English footballer with regards to feeling the burden of a National failure - other players have missed penalties in groups but he has had to live with that Euro 96 penalty on his own for the rest of his life - that must be an awful thing to have on your conscience. Maybe it's his time for payback.
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Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
I tend not to read more of your posts than I need too to be honest. I presume you talked a lot of nonsense in those too? (Coming from me that's really saying something)
I've read more banners of yours than you've read nonsense posts of mine
And there's a qualitative difference between something that doesn't make sense to you and the absolute shite you infest this messageboard with
It’s worth noting that Young is the only player in the squad to score from a direct free-kick in the Premier League last season - 1 goal from 3 attempts. Kane, meanwhile, had 10 attempts and scored 0.
Having said that, I’d be happy with either of them taking one. I supposed it depends on if it’s definitely going to be a shot or whether it might be floated into the box for someone to attack - if it’s the latter then Kane shouldn’t be taking them as he’s needed in the box, if it’s the former then if he feels confident taking one then why not? The players and coaches will know a lot more about who’s better suited to them than we will.