| Rochedale 07:06 - Feb 19 with 2925 views | DiddyDave |
Had a trip back to New Zealand recently and happened to go into an English style pub,the Prince Albert,in Cambridge,heart of the country`s horse racing industry. Got my pint of Kilkenny and walked around looking at all the various prints of rural England obviously from a couple of hundred years ago. The most interesting was a Map of Lancaster,showing Rochedale with the middle e and in quite bold letters as opposed to other towns and hamlets. Is this how Rochdale was spelt back in the day? If so,does anybody know when and why the middle e was dropped off? I`ve googled the town many times and have never seen it spelt thus,but there`s a suburb in Brisbane that does call it Rochedale,implying the people who settled there in the 1800s came from SE Lancashire. |  | | |  |
| Rochedale on 09:13 - Feb 19 with 2788 views | Ancoats_Blue |
Literacy rates weren’t very high pre the late 19th century and there were many variations in the spellings of place names, surnames etc. One man wrote Rochedale, another Rochdale. Somewhere along the line the current format was agreed as correct. |  | | |
| Rochedale on 09:57 - Feb 19 with 2716 views | DaleiLama |
| Rochedale on 09:13 - Feb 19 by Ancoats_Blue |
Literacy rates weren’t very high pre the late 19th century and there were many variations in the spellings of place names, surnames etc. One man wrote Rochedale, another Rochdale. Somewhere along the line the current format was agreed as correct. |
It could be argued literacy rates are going back to those levels with txt spk etc? |  |
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| Rochedale on 10:29 - Feb 19 with 2658 views | D_Alien |
To turn this on it's head, so to speak, I've always wondered why the River Roch is pronounced as if it has an 'e' on the end, or perhaps an 'a' after the 'o'
As it stands, shouldn't Roch be pronounced like crotch? |  |
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| Rochedale on 11:19 - Feb 19 with 2573 views | kiwidale |
| Rochedale on 10:29 - Feb 19 by D_Alien |
To turn this on it's head, so to speak, I've always wondered why the River Roch is pronounced as if it has an 'e' on the end, or perhaps an 'a' after the 'o'
As it stands, shouldn't Roch be pronounced like crotch? |
I've wondered that myself, maybe the dialect used in Rochdale back then rendered it as river Roch rather than Roche?... back to the opening post the Brisbane district of Rochedale has no association with Rochdale it was named after the original settlers the Roche family from Ireland.
My local supermarket here in Browns bay is selling Rochdale cider its NZ's oldest cider brewery located in the Stoke district of Nelson NZ.
http://www.rochdalecider.com/our-range/
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| Rochedale on 11:35 - Feb 19 with 2543 views | downunder |
| Rochedale on 11:19 - Feb 19 by kiwidale |
I've wondered that myself, maybe the dialect used in Rochdale back then rendered it as river Roch rather than Roche?... back to the opening post the Brisbane district of Rochedale has no association with Rochdale it was named after the original settlers the Roche family from Ireland.
My local supermarket here in Browns bay is selling Rochdale cider its NZ's oldest cider brewery located in the Stoke district of Nelson NZ.
http://www.rochdalecider.com/our-range/
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And a very nice cider it is. |  | | |
| Rochedale on 12:54 - Feb 19 with 2428 views | EllDale |
I always understand that the town was called Rochedale at one stage but that the middle e was dropped in Medieval times.
How many people call it Rochdull though?! | | | |
| Rochedale on 13:06 - Feb 19 with 2409 views | nordenblue |
| Rochedale on 12:54 - Feb 19 by EllDale |
I always understand that the town was called Rochedale at one stage but that the middle e was dropped in Medieval times.
How many people call it Rochdull though?! |
There's a fair few folk drop an "e" in Rochdale every week...  | | | |
| Rochedale on 16:37 - Feb 19 with 2201 views | rochdale_ranger |
| Rochedale on 12:54 - Feb 19 by EllDale |
I always understand that the town was called Rochedale at one stage but that the middle e was dropped in Medieval times.
How many people call it Rochdull though?! |
Like milnra as oppose to milnrow. Or whit’oth as oppose to whitworth. |  | | |
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| Rochedale on 20:13 - Feb 19 with 2005 views | rochedale |
Not every day you get a thread named after you, thought I’d done something wrong for a minute. |  |
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| Rochedale on 20:27 - Feb 19 with 1993 views | finberty |
| Rochedale on 10:29 - Feb 19 by D_Alien |
To turn this on it's head, so to speak, I've always wondered why the River Roch is pronounced as if it has an 'e' on the end, or perhaps an 'a' after the 'o'
As it stands, shouldn't Roch be pronounced like crotch? |
On a slight tangent, shouldn't the river in Cambridge be pronounced Came not Cam? |  | | |
| Rochedale on 23:07 - Feb 19 with 1889 views | DaleiLama |
| Rochedale on 20:27 - Feb 19 by finberty |
On a slight tangent, shouldn't the river in Cambridge be pronounced Came not Cam? |
Might have to get Meg Ryan to adjudicate on that one? | |
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| Rochedale on 23:09 - Feb 19 with 1883 views | pioneer |
| Rochedale on 23:07 - Feb 19 by DaleiLama |
Might have to get Meg Ryan to adjudicate on that one? |
maybe the city should be pronounced CAMbrige
I am still struggling with the silent P in bath | | | |
| Rochedale on 23:11 - Feb 19 with 1876 views | DaleiLama |
| Rochedale on 23:09 - Feb 19 by pioneer |
maybe the city should be pronounced CAMbrige
I am still struggling with the silent P in bath |
It's your age! | |
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| Rochedale on 23:22 - Feb 19 with 1854 views | Shakerbhoy |
Back in the early 1700s...Rochdale was formally known as Chit'ole |  | | |
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