| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 19:18 - Jan 19 with 3575 views | blackdogblue |
I like probably a lot of others on here voted for the kit & a chance to go to Italy.
All the votes counted & lucky winner announced followed by a fun day, big trailer selling kits / shirts to young & old.
Home kit Blue & Black & the second kit being Grey..
Now then, why sell a kit which children want but actually never see their team in?
Again, yesterday we played in the 3rd kit, in fact we mostly play now in the 3rd Choice Pink One???
How many games has the Grey Kit been seen??? This is not what the fans voted for and the club should consider a refund.. |  |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:28 - Jan 19 with 2273 views | 442Dale |
There was precisely ONE game this season when wearing a third kit could possibly have been required: Coventry. Even then we’d have got away with wearing blue & black (though it’s breaking ‘different shades of same colour’ rules - my own).
Quite how having a pink kit, again, could be justified when it lost a vote is hard to work out. Until the club choose to listen properly to fans about kits, both designs, choices and units sold will continue to fall short of the obvious potential. |  |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:30 - Jan 19 with 2269 views | chalky_ncfc |
Why do clubs have a third choice kit? You obviously only need two to avoid clashing with the opposition,are the sponsors different on the third kid to the others? |  |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:36 - Jan 19 with 2242 views | 442Dale |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:30 - Jan 19 by chalky_ncfc |
Why do clubs have a third choice kit? You obviously only need two to avoid clashing with the opposition,are the sponsors different on the third kid to the others? |
Completely agree. It’s simple: assess potential opponents and choose a colour that doesn’t clash. If a third shirt is required in extreme circumstances, in this day and age it could and should be a one-off shirt; see our white Nike shirt at Shrewsbury in 05/06.
It all comes with a bit of planning. | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:44 - Jan 19 with 2217 views | blackdogblue |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:36 - Jan 19 by 442Dale |
Completely agree. It’s simple: assess potential opponents and choose a colour that doesn’t clash. If a third shirt is required in extreme circumstances, in this day and age it could and should be a one-off shirt; see our white Nike shirt at Shrewsbury in 05/06.
It all comes with a bit of planning. |
The Green & Black striped one was an emergency kit as I remember and was so popular they brought it back the next season. To be honest liked it & bought one but would not be seen dead in one.
A question for the rearranged fans forum. Taking sales under false pretences?
No, they are all Crown Oil. Bet NCFC don’t have a 3rd kit.. Chalky? [Post edited 19 Jan 2020 19:45]
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:12 - Jan 19 with 2154 views | blackdogblue |
That’s my point exactly, at last...
Cost you £120 this year | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:18 - Jan 19 with 2134 views | chalky_ncfc |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:44 - Jan 19 by blackdogblue |
The Green & Black striped one was an emergency kit as I remember and was so popular they brought it back the next season. To be honest liked it & bought one but would not be seen dead in one.
A question for the rearranged fans forum. Taking sales under false pretences?
No, they are all Crown Oil. Bet NCFC don’t have a 3rd kit.. Chalky? [Post edited 19 Jan 2020 19:45]
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To my knowledge we don't have a third kit but what we have done over the past couple of seasons is sell the shirts without the sponsors logo on the front but you can have one put on free of charge it you wish which seemed popular | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:21 - Jan 19 with 2126 views | blackdogblue |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:18 - Jan 19 by chalky_ncfc |
To my knowledge we don't have a third kit but what we have done over the past couple of seasons is sell the shirts without the sponsors logo on the front but you can have one put on free of charge it you wish which seemed popular |
Sorry mate, just googled it, you do have a 3rd kit..
Marketed as White & Black striped 😂😂 | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:23 - Jan 19 with 2120 views | chalky_ncfc |
I'm presuming that the pink kit is for the gay fetish guys?  | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:53 - Jan 19 with 2042 views | scarrow |
Scandal! Really.
I'd imagine people if they bought a change kit bought the one they liked best. In reality the grey kit looked rubbish at Fleetwood. My quibble would be wearing the pink kit when the home could be worn. |  |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:56 - Jan 19 with 2029 views | D_Alien |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:53 - Jan 19 by scarrow |
Scandal! Really.
I'd imagine people if they bought a change kit bought the one they liked best. In reality the grey kit looked rubbish at Fleetwood. My quibble would be wearing the pink kit when the home could be worn. |
It's possible the players prefer the pink kit
It looked great under the bright lights at St. James Park |  |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 21:11 - Jan 19 with 1986 views | 442Dale |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:56 - Jan 19 by D_Alien |
It's possible the players prefer the pink kit
It looked great under the bright lights at St. James Park |
They shouldn’t have had the chance to prefer it. It shouldn’t have been produced after the kit vote. | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 21:12 - Jan 19 with 1979 views | D_Alien |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 21:11 - Jan 19 by 442Dale |
They shouldn’t have had the chance to prefer it. It shouldn’t have been produced after the kit vote. |
But that's what happens when you have a first team squad comprising kids, virgins and gay fetish guys | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 21:15 - Jan 19 with 1960 views | kiwidale |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:21 - Jan 19 by blackdogblue |
Sorry mate, just googled it, you do have a 3rd kit..
Marketed as White & Black striped 😂😂 |
Can you pay extra for black and white stripes? [Post edited 19 Jan 2020 21:15]
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 21:17 - Jan 19 with 1944 views | TVOS1907 |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:30 - Jan 19 by chalky_ncfc |
Why do clubs have a third choice kit? You obviously only need two to avoid clashing with the opposition,are the sponsors different on the third kid to the others? |
Firstly to make money.
Secondly in the event of unexpected cup draws that negate the use of both of the other kits.
Thirdly, to make more money. |  |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 21:21 - Jan 19 with 1925 views | TVOS1907 |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:53 - Jan 19 by scarrow |
Scandal! Really.
I'd imagine people if they bought a change kit bought the one they liked best. In reality the grey kit looked rubbish at Fleetwood. My quibble would be wearing the pink kit when the home could be worn. |
I'm thinking 'scandal' is probably a bit OTT, but it's certainly a strange state of affairs that the official change kit has hardly been used.
This is something that ought to be thought through more carefully in future kit votes involving supporters. | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 22:15 - Jan 19 with 1850 views | AtThePeake |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:56 - Jan 19 by D_Alien |
It's possible the players prefer the pink kit
It looked great under the bright lights at St. James Park |
Or the manager? This has crossed my mind given what happened with United's infamous grey kit at the Dell all those years ago. |  |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 22:30 - Jan 19 with 1819 views | dingdangblue |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 22:15 - Jan 19 by AtThePeake |
Or the manager? This has crossed my mind given what happened with United's infamous grey kit at the Dell all those years ago. |
Imagine if we'd worn grey at St James Park! We might have been 5-0 down after 26 mins instead of 3! |  |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 22:39 - Jan 19 with 1806 views | blackdogblue |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 21:21 - Jan 19 by TVOS1907 |
I'm thinking 'scandal' is probably a bit OTT, but it's certainly a strange state of affairs that the official change kit has hardly been used.
This is something that ought to be thought through more carefully in future kit votes involving supporters. |
Exactly TVOS, as per my OP.
Here’s a good article for your next programme in tandem with the RSPB Garden Birdwatch being advertised on TV
Spot the official away kit? | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 00:36 - Jan 20 with 1741 views | 49thseason |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 19:28 - Jan 19 by 442Dale |
There was precisely ONE game this season when wearing a third kit could possibly have been required: Coventry. Even then we’d have got away with wearing blue & black (though it’s breaking ‘different shades of same colour’ rules - my own).
Quite how having a pink kit, again, could be justified when it lost a vote is hard to work out. Until the club choose to listen properly to fans about kits, both designs, choices and units sold will continue to fall short of the obvious potential. |
Maybe the players prefer the Raspberry kit? Maybe they feel better wearing it. Perhaps they should wear it at home too? The colour of kit can be an important psychological element , why force them to wear a strip they maybe dont like? |  | | |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 07:37 - Jan 20 with 1665 views | RooleyMoorBlue |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 20:53 - Jan 19 by scarrow |
Scandal! Really.
I'd imagine people if they bought a change kit bought the one they liked best. In reality the grey kit looked rubbish at Fleetwood. My quibble would be wearing the pink kit when the home could be worn. |
To be fair the kit matched the performance that day. |  | | |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 09:35 - Jan 20 with 1559 views | 442Dale |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 00:36 - Jan 20 by 49thseason |
Maybe the players prefer the Raspberry kit? Maybe they feel better wearing it. Perhaps they should wear it at home too? The colour of kit can be an important psychological element , why force them to wear a strip they maybe dont like? |
Maybe the decision making process ahead of choosing kits to vote in could be improved to take all these factors into account.
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 11:10 - Jan 20 with 1477 views | 49thseason |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 09:35 - Jan 20 by 442Dale |
Maybe the decision making process ahead of choosing kits to vote in could be improved to take all these factors into account.
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There is a fair amount of research that shows teams in red win more games than teams in blue and that referee decisions tend to advantage teams in red.
The advantage might be in low percentage points but over 50 or so games a season mat well add up to the difference between relegation or not, promotion or not.
Personally I think its time to completely re-brand the club and using a completely new colour scheme would be a good place to start. Attracting new fans is about making the whole package more exciting and currently it all seems a bit same old same old, a bit tired and past its sell-by date. An extra 1000 fans would make a world of difference , its not a big number but keeping on doing the same old stuff doesnt seem to be cutting the mustard as far as attracting them... time for changes. | | | |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 11:12 - Jan 20 with 1474 views | TVOS1907 |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 11:10 - Jan 20 by 49thseason |
There is a fair amount of research that shows teams in red win more games than teams in blue and that referee decisions tend to advantage teams in red.
The advantage might be in low percentage points but over 50 or so games a season mat well add up to the difference between relegation or not, promotion or not.
Personally I think its time to completely re-brand the club and using a completely new colour scheme would be a good place to start. Attracting new fans is about making the whole package more exciting and currently it all seems a bit same old same old, a bit tired and past its sell-by date. An extra 1000 fans would make a world of difference , its not a big number but keeping on doing the same old stuff doesnt seem to be cutting the mustard as far as attracting them... time for changes. |
Like when Cardiff changed to red and black?
That went well. | |
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| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 11:48 - Jan 20 with 1465 views | 49thseason |
| RAFC Kit Vote Scandal 2019//20 on 11:12 - Jan 20 by TVOS1907 |
Like when Cardiff changed to red and black?
That went well. |
Why do you feel he need to make a negative comment? Are you happy with fewer than 3000 home fans turning up ? Do you think the club is vibrant and effectively promoting itself? Have you noticed any great changes in the pre-match experience? How do you think the club is generally perceived? Does it not bother you that the best idea anyone came up with for a 3rd kit was a dirty grey with a blue and black stripe? Do you think we might attract more sponsors if there was a sense of excitement around the club rather than a continual sense that we are just about hanging on? Is it better to try and fail than simply do nothing?
So Cardiff changed their kit to red when they are known as the Bluebirds, how does that affect Rochdale? There is nothing magical about our blue strips, i remember when we played in white shirts, and we did ok in our black and white stripes,. Raspberry is unique, eye catching, motivational, it makes players look bigger and stronger, and we seem to do better when we wear it .. whats the problem? | | | |
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