| Big bad Boris 11:15 - Jul 17 with 3741 views | scarrow |
Has just announced crowds back in Stadiums from October |  |
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| Big bad Boris on 11:16 - Jul 17 with 2815 views | SuddenLad |
Conditional on the COVID-19 situation and only in 'compliant' stadia. |  |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:06 - Jul 17 with 2678 views | Dalenet |
| Big bad Boris on 11:16 - Jul 17 by SuddenLad |
Conditional on the COVID-19 situation and only in 'compliant' stadia. |
Very sensible of course. But should allow the club to start to plan. May hear some more about how clubs will look at flexible season tickets so that people won't feel trapped. Shielders for example will need some reassurance that their ticket isn't wasted if there is a partial lock down in winter for example. |  | | |
| Big bad Boris on 12:07 - Jul 17 with 2675 views | Ancoats_Blue |
If this means the first month is behind closed doors I Hope clubs at our level are petitioning for the early games on the fixture list to be their least profitable. For us the likes of, Gillingham, Wimbledon, Burton etc home and away.
It’d be quite annoying if our local, bigger crowd games generate no income. As I’m sure it will for the other clubs in our league. |  | | |
| Big bad Boris on 12:11 - Jul 17 with 2658 views | TVOS1907 |
| Big bad Boris on 12:07 - Jul 17 by Ancoats_Blue |
If this means the first month is behind closed doors I Hope clubs at our level are petitioning for the early games on the fixture list to be their least profitable. For us the likes of, Gillingham, Wimbledon, Burton etc home and away.
It’d be quite annoying if our local, bigger crowd games generate no income. As I’m sure it will for the other clubs in our league. |
How could that be done to please everyone? Sunderland wouldn't have any away games under your scenario. |  |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:12 - Jul 17 with 2654 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Big bad Boris on 12:07 - Jul 17 by Ancoats_Blue |
If this means the first month is behind closed doors I Hope clubs at our level are petitioning for the early games on the fixture list to be their least profitable. For us the likes of, Gillingham, Wimbledon, Burton etc home and away.
It’d be quite annoying if our local, bigger crowd games generate no income. As I’m sure it will for the other clubs in our league. |
What is going to change between now and October , most ‘experts’ reckon there will be more cases by then, indeed the drop in cases has now levelled off. That said I do hope we can sell our Sunderland half and half mugs this season |  |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:23 - Jul 17 with 2620 views | scarrow |
| Big bad Boris on 12:12 - Jul 17 by rochdaleriddler |
What is going to change between now and October , most ‘experts’ reckon there will be more cases by then, indeed the drop in cases has now levelled off. That said I do hope we can sell our Sunderland half and half mugs this season |
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Dropped 42% in the last two weeks
Death rates dropping at a similar rate
Locally is slightly different but the picture in most of the country is a lot brighter | |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:31 - Jul 17 with 2589 views | SuddenLad |
For every occupied seat in the stadium, there will be at least 8 empty seats. One seat on each side, in each direction, must remain vacant. Only one seat occupied in a 3x3 block of 9
Standing areas will be closed.
Who will decide who gets to sit where? Season tickets for the seating areas will be invalid because of the availability and non-availability of the majority of seats.
Will it be a case of first-come-first-served for seats with other hopefuls turned away?
A logistical nightmare. | |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:36 - Jul 17 with 2572 views | funkkk |
No way the season should start in the lower leagues until fans can attend. |  | | |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:41 - Jul 17 with 2552 views | scarrow |
| Big bad Boris on 12:36 - Jul 17 by funkkk |
No way the season should start in the lower leagues until fans can attend. |
Won't work like that I'd imagine despite it being wanted by some clubs. Logistics of next years Euros will mean the season will start in September. Unfortunately I can't see it any other way. | |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:47 - Jul 17 with 2535 views | 49thseason |
| Big bad Boris on 12:31 - Jul 17 by SuddenLad |
For every occupied seat in the stadium, there will be at least 8 empty seats. One seat on each side, in each direction, must remain vacant. Only one seat occupied in a 3x3 block of 9
Standing areas will be closed.
Who will decide who gets to sit where? Season tickets for the seating areas will be invalid because of the availability and non-availability of the majority of seats.
Will it be a case of first-come-first-served for seats with other hopefuls turned away?
A logistical nightmare. |
Back of an envelope,
10,000 capacity less 2000 in Sandy Lane gives 8000 seats , divide by 9 gives less than 1000 allowed to watch the game.
Hardly viable I would think,
Back to the drawing board. |  | | |
| Big bad Boris on 12:49 - Jul 17 with 2527 views | 442Dale |
| Big bad Boris on 12:31 - Jul 17 by SuddenLad |
For every occupied seat in the stadium, there will be at least 8 empty seats. One seat on each side, in each direction, must remain vacant. Only one seat occupied in a 3x3 block of 9
Standing areas will be closed.
Who will decide who gets to sit where? Season tickets for the seating areas will be invalid because of the availability and non-availability of the majority of seats.
Will it be a case of first-come-first-served for seats with other hopefuls turned away?
A logistical nightmare. |
Is this guidance out?
Looking for a link. |  |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:53 - Jul 17 with 2514 views | judd |
From Rochdale Development Agency today:
PLEASE SHARE AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE WITH COLLEAGUES, STAFF AND FAMILY
Residents across the borough of Rochdale are strongly advised to take extra precautions to help prevent coronavirus lockdown measures being reintroduced.
More cases of the virus have been uncovered since testing in Rochdale was increased last month and the borough now has one of the highest rates of infection in England.
From 29 June to 12 July the borough of Rochdale had the fourth highest rate of cases per 100,000 population in England behind only Leicester, Blackburn and Bradford.
Although the numbers are still well below those seen in Leicester where a local lockdown has been introduced, the number of cases in the borough of Rochdale are not falling quickly. To help prevent a local lockdown being brought in everyone is strongly advised to adhere to the following measures —
- Wear face coverings in shops now — do not wait until 24 July
- Wear face coverings in public as much as possible
- Limit visitors to your home to two people
- Keep 2 metres apart at all times
- Avoid physical contact with anyone outside your own household, including shaking hands or hugging
- Get tested and isolate if you are told to do so
The advice is effective from Friday 17 July and will be reviewed in two weeks’ time.
The council’s director of public health, Andrea Fallon, said: “The fight against coronavirus is not over. Although lockdown measures are being relaxed across the country, we can see from our local data that we need to remain vigilant to the threat posed by the disease.
“We have increased testing and that has shown us that we need to take action and ask everyone to help keep our infection rate down.”
Council leader Allen Brett said: “All of us need to do whatever we can to keep the virus under control. Although we are a long way from the Leicester situation, we cannot be complacent and it is vital that everyone does what they can to keep this virus under control.”
Residents can book a coronavirus test by calling the free phone number 0808 1964 100 to book an appointment or by visiting the NHS website.
Local information about coronavirus can be found at www.rochdale.gov.uk/coronavirus |  |
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| Big bad Boris on 12:54 - Jul 17 with 2511 views | BlueMessiah |
| Big bad Boris on 12:31 - Jul 17 by SuddenLad |
For every occupied seat in the stadium, there will be at least 8 empty seats. One seat on each side, in each direction, must remain vacant. Only one seat occupied in a 3x3 block of 9
Standing areas will be closed.
Who will decide who gets to sit where? Season tickets for the seating areas will be invalid because of the availability and non-availability of the majority of seats.
Will it be a case of first-come-first-served for seats with other hopefuls turned away?
A logistical nightmare. |
Surely people from the same household can still sit together? That in itself should increase the number of available seats substantially. |  |
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| Big bad Boris on 13:15 - Jul 17 with 2465 views | pioneer |
| Big bad Boris on 12:54 - Jul 17 by BlueMessiah |
Surely people from the same household can still sit together? That in itself should increase the number of available seats substantially. |
The approach used in Australia, or at least those parts outside of Victoria, is that a family or group of friend, colleagues can sit Together if the tickets are purchased together based on principle that any infection among the group would be limited to that group so easy to trace. But there are three empty seats between groups and every other row remains empty. It provides a better ratio than 1 in 9. | | | |
| Big bad Boris on 13:20 - Jul 17 with 2450 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Big bad Boris on 12:54 - Jul 17 by BlueMessiah |
Surely people from the same household can still sit together? That in itself should increase the number of available seats substantially. |
Wearing masks will mean people can sit closer, say every three seats , as everyone will be facing the same way. Seems to work on trains. I said ages ago a capacity of 3000 should be doable safely | |
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| Big bad Boris on 13:20 - Jul 17 with 2444 views | surb_dale |
| Big bad Boris on 12:31 - Jul 17 by SuddenLad |
For every occupied seat in the stadium, there will be at least 8 empty seats. One seat on each side, in each direction, must remain vacant. Only one seat occupied in a 3x3 block of 9
Standing areas will be closed.
Who will decide who gets to sit where? Season tickets for the seating areas will be invalid because of the availability and non-availability of the majority of seats.
Will it be a case of first-come-first-served for seats with other hopefuls turned away?
A logistical nightmare. |
Don't see why the standing area should be closed when it's arguably easier to distance a metre apart than seating. The stadium should easily accommodate all season ticket holders assuming similar amount sold as last year which was around 2.5k I think. | | | |
| Big bad Boris on 13:22 - Jul 17 with 2435 views | SuddenLad |
| Big bad Boris on 12:54 - Jul 17 by BlueMessiah |
Surely people from the same household can still sit together? That in itself should increase the number of available seats substantially. |
Assume 3 people sit together in a row. The three seats behind and the three in front are then unavailable PLUS one on each side of the group of 3.
So 3 taken, 8 unavailable as a result.
Still a problem, but who is eligible for the seats in the first place? Who decides?
This is based on a 1-metre distancing. If it's fixed at 2 metres, you can add an extra row of seats in each direction, mean 3 occupied and therefore 22 unavailable. [Post edited 17 Jul 2020 13:25]
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| Big bad Boris on 13:22 - Jul 17 with 2431 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Big bad Boris on 12:23 - Jul 17 by scarrow |
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Dropped 42% in the last two weeks
Death rates dropping at a similar rate
Locally is slightly different but the picture in most of the country is a lot brighter |
I use the Kings College App, cases seem to be at a similar level daily, obviously with local variation, my point really is what will change from the season start and October. Fans should be back from day 1 | |
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| Big bad Boris on 13:39 - Jul 17 with 2372 views | tony_roch975 |
| Big bad Boris on 12:54 - Jul 17 by BlueMessiah |
Surely people from the same household can still sit together? That in itself should increase the number of available seats substantially. |
in theory but that would mean being able to buy specific seats (whether per game or season ticket) but isn't there also an issue (never mind toilet provision) about how to enter & exit the stadium without having to pass very close to anyone else (along a row) - sounds more like a school assembly mechanism | |
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| Big bad Boris on 21:41 - Jul 17 with 2043 views | 442Dale |
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-phas
Lots in there, including:
<< Ticketing of seated and standing areas
Seating and standing areas should maintain SD wherever possible and reduce the movement of spectators between seats/areas. Key principles include:
â— Seating should be allocated wherever possible and seat plans should be managed through the competition ticketing system
â— Where allocated seating is not possible, seating or standing plans should be developed which maintain SD, with clear demarcation of the seats or standing areas which spectators can and cannot use
â— Seated spectators should remain in seats registered to their contact details at the point of sale
â— Spectators should be seated as individuals or where tickets were purchased in a group, within that group. Group ticket purchases should follow social distancing guidelines for seeing family and friends in regards to number of people in a group, and number of households in a group, appropriate to indoor and outdoor settings.
â— All individuals and groups within seated or standing areas should maintain current SD with other individuals and/or other groups and/or within groups of two household.
â— Seating and space for spectators with disabilities should comply with SD arrangements and have due regard to accessibility responsibilities under the Equality Act 2010>> | |
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| Big bad Boris on 22:46 - Jul 17 with 1957 views | Brierls |
| Big bad Boris on 21:41 - Jul 17 by 442Dale |
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-phas
Lots in there, including:
<< Ticketing of seated and standing areas
Seating and standing areas should maintain SD wherever possible and reduce the movement of spectators between seats/areas. Key principles include:
â— Seating should be allocated wherever possible and seat plans should be managed through the competition ticketing system
â— Where allocated seating is not possible, seating or standing plans should be developed which maintain SD, with clear demarcation of the seats or standing areas which spectators can and cannot use
â— Seated spectators should remain in seats registered to their contact details at the point of sale
â— Spectators should be seated as individuals or where tickets were purchased in a group, within that group. Group ticket purchases should follow social distancing guidelines for seeing family and friends in regards to number of people in a group, and number of households in a group, appropriate to indoor and outdoor settings.
â— All individuals and groups within seated or standing areas should maintain current SD with other individuals and/or other groups and/or within groups of two household.
â— Seating and space for spectators with disabilities should comply with SD arrangements and have due regard to accessibility responsibilities under the Equality Act 2010>> |
I hope we bought the COVID-19 add-on for the new ticketing system. |  | | |
| Big bad Boris on 23:04 - Jul 17 with 1928 views | 442Dale |
| Big bad Boris on 22:46 - Jul 17 by Brierls |
I hope we bought the COVID-19 add-on for the new ticketing system. |
That ticketing system the club said on the 3rd of July that they “will next week communicate information” about which would have been last week, but we’ve not heard much then on this week either.
https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2020/july/dbmessage_030720/ | |
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| Big bad Boris on 23:18 - Jul 17 with 1906 views | 442Dale |
Definitely. And then the kit thread starts! | |
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