| Court case pt2 00:18 - Jan 8 with 4827 views | judd |
"The Board of Directors report that Morton House has filed a High Court claim naming the Board of Directors and the Dale Trust as respondents."
Apologies for the separate thread but have been pondering over the above wording.
It appears that these shysters so beloved by our former CE Bottomley are targeting individual Directors as appointed by us shareholders, together with the Trust as a body.
Are we going to allow this to happen without a very public and noisy display of support for each and EVERY one of those who has stood up and fronted these charlatans?
Are we going to allow this new board to be worried and bullied?
Not a fookin' chance.
Let these good people know just how much we as a fan base will support them in terms of hostile activity.
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| Court case pt2 on 04:30 - Jan 8 with 4703 views | mikehunt |
Hear hear!!! Judd. Trouble is I have no idea how to go about it. |  |
| The worm of time turns not for the cuckoo of circumstance. |
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| Court case pt2 on 11:54 - Jan 8 with 4476 views | judd |
| Court case pt2 on 04:30 - Jan 8 by mikehunt |
Hear hear!!! Judd. Trouble is I have no idea how to go about it. |
Lots of ways.
Join the Trust if not already a member.
Email the club and Trust offering your support.
Keep the campaign to see these fookers off high profile.
Write to your MP about the reforms needed for football club ownership following Tracey Crouch's report. | |
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| Court case pt2 on 12:40 - Jan 8 with 4375 views | EllDale |
We need to stick firmly in solidarity with the board and Trust here.
Must be awful imagining you could lose your house if these cretins sue successfully. |  | | |
| Court case pt2 on 12:53 - Jan 8 with 4318 views | UpTheDaleNotForSale |
| Court case pt2 on 04:30 - Jan 8 by mikehunt |
Hear hear!!! Judd. Trouble is I have no idea how to go about it. |
One thing that can be done is to spread the word on social media in whichever format you can.
We have Twitter : @DaleNotForSale
Insta : @DaleNotForSale
NEW Facebook : @Harvey Rigg (Upthe Dalenot Forsale)
Any sharing / tagging of posts on any platform, including encouraging fans of other clubs / politicians / press etc will really help.
We saw when this kicked off just how much Andy Curran / Darrell Rose (LKC Motors) / Alexander 'careful or I'll take legal action' Jarvis etc do not like social media focus - they said as much in a couple of their interviews.
If they thought it got hot in 2021, its about to get a whole lot hotter in 2022.
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| Court case pt2 on 12:55 - Jan 8 with 4312 views | Dalenet |
| Court case pt2 on 12:40 - Jan 8 by EllDale |
We need to stick firmly in solidarity with the board and Trust here.
Must be awful imagining you could lose your house if these cretins sue successfully. |
Why could they lose their house? Surely the Trust is an organisation limited by guarantee and has limited assets. | | | |
| Court case pt2 on 13:10 - Jan 8 with 4253 views | fitzochris |
Anything and everything we can, Judd. |  |
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| Court case pt2 on 13:28 - Jan 8 with 4172 views | judd |
| Court case pt2 on 12:55 - Jan 8 by Dalenet |
Why could they lose their house? Surely the Trust is an organisation limited by guarantee and has limited assets. |
The wording of the statement appears to indicate that individual directors have been served as well as the corporate entity | |
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| Court case pt2 on 09:09 - Jan 9 with 3763 views | scarrow |
| Court case pt2 on 13:28 - Jan 8 by judd |
The wording of the statement appears to indicate that individual directors have been served as well as the corporate entity |
Wasn't there a previous 'threat of action' against Andrew Kelly a few months ago? |  |
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| Court case pt2 on 10:04 - Jan 9 with 3652 views | samueloneils |
The corporate identity has not been named, just the Board of Directors and the Trust.
Question is "Which Board of Directors".
Who are they aiming at?
For mispresentation? | | | |
| Court case pt2 on 22:20 - Jan 9 with 3143 views | mikehunt |
I see the current EFL Governance Working Group (GWG) consists of Debbie Jevans CBE and Simon Bazalgette, the independent directors on the EFL Board, and three EFL Club Divisional representatives, being Nick Randall QC (Nottingham Forest, Championship), Mark Palios (Tranmere Rovers, League One), and Colin Garlick (Port Vale, League Two).
(As taken from the EFL website).
Note the last name. Is it our old boy? Is anyone still in touch with him? Might he be able to gee the EFL up for us? | |
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| Court case pt2 on 23:53 - Jan 9 with 3034 views | YadHoDale |
| Court case pt2 on 22:20 - Jan 9 by mikehunt |
I see the current EFL Governance Working Group (GWG) consists of Debbie Jevans CBE and Simon Bazalgette, the independent directors on the EFL Board, and three EFL Club Divisional representatives, being Nick Randall QC (Nottingham Forest, Championship), Mark Palios (Tranmere Rovers, League One), and Colin Garlick (Port Vale, League Two).
(As taken from the EFL website).
Note the last name. Is it our old boy? Is anyone still in touch with him? Might he be able to gee the EFL up for us? |
Don't know about the Forest bloke, but Mark Palios has done a decent job running Tranmere, and Colin Garlick is the ex-Dale man - both seem good choices. Probably not done to make an unofficial approach, though. |  | | |
| Court case pt2 on 21:40 - Jan 10 with 2728 views | EllDale |
I’m still pondering over the wording.
One thing that has occurred to me was that if Morton House sue individuals rather than the club then it’s another form of intimidation.
They’re perhaps thinking that individual board members might not have the financial clout to fight the case?
And that if the club were to pay the legal fees then MH might appeal against this on a technicality? | | | |
| Court case pt2 on 21:44 - Jan 10 with 2707 views | judd |
| Court case pt2 on 21:40 - Jan 10 by EllDale |
I’m still pondering over the wording.
One thing that has occurred to me was that if Morton House sue individuals rather than the club then it’s another form of intimidation.
They’re perhaps thinking that individual board members might not have the financial clout to fight the case?
And that if the club were to pay the legal fees then MH might appeal against this on a technicality? |
Morton House objecting to the sources of funding?
Well I never... | |
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| Court case pt2 on 21:57 - Jan 10 with 2648 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Court case pt2 on 21:40 - Jan 10 by EllDale |
I’m still pondering over the wording.
One thing that has occurred to me was that if Morton House sue individuals rather than the club then it’s another form of intimidation.
They’re perhaps thinking that individual board members might not have the financial clout to fight the case?
And that if the club were to pay the legal fees then MH might appeal against this on a technicality? |
If that is a tactic it is a highly questionable and vexatious tactic which I suspect will be seen straight through by the judge.
Repeat after me:
Having considered the request for information made of them, Morton House MGT, on behalf of its directors, and representatives, has now informed the League that it is formally withdrawing from the approval process and plans to divest the shares acquired in the Club at the earliest opportunity.
And for the people at the back:
Having considered the request for information made of them, Morton House MGT, on behalf of its directors, and representatives, has now informed the League that it is formally withdrawing from the approval process and plans to divest the shares acquired in the Club at the earliest opportunity.
And for the judge:
Having considered the request for information made of them, Morton House MGT, on behalf of its directors, and representatives, has now informed the League that it is formally withdrawing from the approval process and plans to divest the shares acquired in the Club at the earliest opportunity.
https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/efl-statement-rochdale-afc2/
It would also indicate that Morton House have not done their research on people of Rochdale who might have a few bob to lend to the Trust just to see "justice" prevail. There are some very wealthy but modest people who follow Dale; and you wouldn't suspect them indulging in a bit of benevolence.
Anyone sent Craig Dawson at West Ham an UTDNFS T-Shirt yet? |  |
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| Court case pt2 on 01:33 - Jan 11 with 2396 views | Sandyman |
Matthew Southall's business record - all in the public domain as recorded at Companies House. Draw your own conclusions and read what he tried to do at Charlton Athletic. In the words of Jim Royle, "fit and proper my arse". We know it, Charlton fans know it, the EFL know it. Oh, he has pending bankruptcy proceedings against him as well. He's finished in any form of business before anything gets to the High Court.
SPORTS MEDIA CONSULTANCY LTD
Company number 11645603
Dissolved on 26 October 2021
tinyurl.com/4krt7r74
MSE CAPITAL GROUP LTD
Company number 10245329
Dissolved on 4 June 2019
Previous company names
SOUTHALL CONSULTANCY LTD 11 Jul 2017 - 04 Jan 2018
LIFESTYLE CONSULTANCY LTD 22 Jun 2016 - 11 Jul 2017
INDEPENDENT SPORTS CAPITAL LIMITED
Company number 08558563
Dissolved on 17 May 2016
ESPRIT REGIMENT LIMITED
Company number 08662021
Dissolved on
10 February 2015
As Barry Manilow knows...
"Oh Mandy,
You came and you stole without paying,
Now they'll put you in jail
Oh Mandy" |  | | |
| Court case pt2 on 07:33 - Jan 11 with 2200 views | RAFCBLUE |
Worth noting too that Southall filed that court action in June 2020 and the court gave him a date of December 2020.
On that basis it will be well into the Summer before this frivilous and vexatious action gets in front of a judge and where the opening presentation will just hand the judge the EFL statement which says:
Having considered the request for information made of them, Morton House MGT, on behalf of its directors, and representatives, has now informed the League that it is formally withdrawing from the approval process and plans to divest the shares acquired in the Club at the earliest opportunity.
Not that Southall is anything to really do with Morton House is he, lurking in the shadows......
Although he was seen with Andrew Curran and Alexander Jarvis at the club in April 2021.
They must be "friends" or "acquaintances"
Funny place for an Essex boy, the Scouse Disaster and Matthew Southall to want to meet up.
Perhaps they were looking at forming a new friendship group. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 7:34]
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| Court case pt2 on 08:14 - Jan 11 with 2145 views | James1980 |
| Court case pt2 on 07:33 - Jan 11 by RAFCBLUE |
Worth noting too that Southall filed that court action in June 2020 and the court gave him a date of December 2020.
On that basis it will be well into the Summer before this frivilous and vexatious action gets in front of a judge and where the opening presentation will just hand the judge the EFL statement which says:
Having considered the request for information made of them, Morton House MGT, on behalf of its directors, and representatives, has now informed the League that it is formally withdrawing from the approval process and plans to divest the shares acquired in the Club at the earliest opportunity.
Not that Southall is anything to really do with Morton House is he, lurking in the shadows......
Although he was seen with Andrew Curran and Alexander Jarvis at the club in April 2021.
They must be "friends" or "acquaintances"
Funny place for an Essex boy, the Scouse Disaster and Matthew Southall to want to meet up.
Perhaps they were looking at forming a new friendship group. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 7:34]
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Why would someone like Andrew Curran want to have anything to do with Alexander Jarvis? | |
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| Court case pt2 on 08:15 - Jan 11 with 2142 views | judd |
| Court case pt2 on 07:33 - Jan 11 by RAFCBLUE |
Worth noting too that Southall filed that court action in June 2020 and the court gave him a date of December 2020.
On that basis it will be well into the Summer before this frivilous and vexatious action gets in front of a judge and where the opening presentation will just hand the judge the EFL statement which says:
Having considered the request for information made of them, Morton House MGT, on behalf of its directors, and representatives, has now informed the League that it is formally withdrawing from the approval process and plans to divest the shares acquired in the Club at the earliest opportunity.
Not that Southall is anything to really do with Morton House is he, lurking in the shadows......
Although he was seen with Andrew Curran and Alexander Jarvis at the club in April 2021.
They must be "friends" or "acquaintances"
Funny place for an Essex boy, the Scouse Disaster and Matthew Southall to want to meet up.
Perhaps they were looking at forming a new friendship group. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 7:34]
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Yet they wouldn't attend an EGM in Rochdale at which "their shareholding" was being diluted? | |
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| Court case pt2 on 08:47 - Jan 11 with 2056 views | boromat |
| Court case pt2 on 08:14 - Jan 11 by James1980 |
Why would someone like Andrew Curran want to have anything to do with Alexander Jarvis? |
I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't anymore  | |
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| Court case pt2 on 08:50 - Jan 11 with 2050 views | SuddenLad |
| Court case pt2 on 08:15 - Jan 11 by judd |
Yet they wouldn't attend an EGM in Rochdale at which "their shareholding" was being diluted? |
Because the chippy was shut? |  |
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| Court case pt2 on 09:18 - Jan 11 with 1976 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Court case pt2 on 08:15 - Jan 11 by judd |
Yet they wouldn't attend an EGM in Rochdale at which "their shareholding" was being diluted? |
That is an interesting point judd.
There must have been a large number of witnesses that night to attest that Morton House did not attend a meeting of shareholders.
That is, perhaps, either:
(a) they are not actually shareholders
(b) they had withdrawn from the process and are divesting the shares - as noted in the EFL's statement.
I remember a post on here that Matthew Southall had threatened a High Court injunction ahead of the AGM
The thread was called:
Non-shareholder tries to cancel EGM
Non shareholder tries to cancel EGM by ColDale 3 Oct 2021 11:53Matt Southall has written to the club to ask them to cancel Wednesday's EGM:
Dear Sirs
We are happy to enter positive discussions with the Board. We suggest a meeting next week.
Unfortunately, the Board has initiated an EGM with the sole intention of seeking to dilute our shareholding. We have taken legal advice upon that process and the Board will receive correspondence from our Solicitors within the next 24 hours.
The correspondence will insist that the Board sends notice to all shareholders of the cancellation of the EGM on Monday 4 October.
If the Board try to proceed with the EGM, we are advised by the lawyers to start legal proceedings in The High Court to obtain an Injunction on Tuesday to ensure that the meeting does not proceed. We do not want to do that, but if the Board do not cancel the meeting, we will, and will also seek an order that the Directors who initiated the EGM pay the costs.
I stress that this is not a route that we want to take, but if the Board refuse to act in a co-operative manner, we will be left with no choice. The decision to call an EGM was a poorly conceived and unhelpful tactic which individual Directors will be held to account for, if they chose to proceed.
The best starting point for a constructive discussion is for the Board to immediately — this weekend — cancel the EGM. We will see this as a very positive and sensible move; and we can sit down and talk next week to explore all options with the Board. A pre-condition of commercial discussions with the Board, is confidentiality. You will understand that placing commercial discussions into the public domain is very unhelpful.
We are keen to reach a solution as soon as possible. We are sure that positive discussions can take place in the next week or shortly thereafter, so long as we can undertake the discussions without the need to tell the lawyers to commence action on Tuesday and on the basis that we are not going to read what we have discussed in confidence with the Board, half an hour later on the internet.
We look forward to your urgent response.
Regards
Matt Southall
One can only reasonably assume that Matt Southall did not follow through on the very open and public threat he made in October 2021 as:
(a) Matthew Southall is nothing whatsoever to do with Morton House based on the Companies House filings:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03779852
(b) Morton House are not actually shareholders
(c) Morton House had withdrawn from the process and are divesting the shares - as noted in the EFL's statement on 16th August
Witnesses report that neither Matthew Southall or Morton House have been to Spotland this season - but they were clearly seen on 29th April 2021 by Fat Pat and half the town. | |
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