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Community initiatives
at 10:45 28 Mar 2024

Perhaps what we need first Judd, is a better understanding of what the Community Trust is set up to do and what the constraints on its abilities are.
I have no real idea how closely aligned the aims of the Club and the Trust are, or if there is any appetite on both sides to work together more closely.
I guess most people will know the Trust from their football activities in schools and during school holidays, and perhaps their activities with veterans and walking footballers. What else do they / can they do? Their Articles do not seem to restrict them to just football activities and the remit is very wide. The other question would be about what they are prepared to do.....
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Community initiatives
at 09:15 28 Mar 2024

Rkershaw, Dallience, these are excellent ideas, maybe the Trust should hold soome sort ov " visioning" event where we could get some sort of structure to all this , create some volunteer organisers and get started, (which is the hard part).
Bearing in mind rkershaws penchant for writing lyrics, maybe you can add a choir and a band to that list. There have been a few attempts to start community choirs that never seemed to grow so perhaps having a bigger tent to work under might be the secret of success.
There are also lots of other sports clubs that could be brought into the same " big tent" idea, doing a deal with our kit suppliers to get big discounts for local football clubs, help with IT, some sort of joint lottery participation, sponsoring cup competitions, providing facilities for presentation evenings, even recycling footballs down to junior clubs.
So much potential.....
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The Ogden Family
at 14:03 27 Mar 2024

Just passing the time whilst waiting. But, I was at RGSB when Peter Ogden was and its gratifying that a number of people here remember the school be it Grammar or Comprehensive with a degree of fondness and gratitude and its a testament to the quality of teaching that so many boys and girls have gone on to have successful careers around the world, there are 2 Knights of the Realm, PO and Joe Pilling who was also there when I was, he was a Civil Servant in charge of Prisons and a number of others with well earned " gongs" . Sadly we dont celebrate these successes enough in Rochdale. If the Ogden deal goes through, we should push for him to declared a Freeman of the Borough at the very least.....
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Community initiatives
at 13:49 27 Mar 2024

Sounds exactly like what we need at the COA..must have cost a lot to put together too, but I would think its almost impossible to lose money on indoor 5 / 7 a side pitches given the weather locally.. i guess we could wait for it to go the same way as most town centre businesses seem to go.. bust... but it does have a car park so it should be OK.
BTW, I understand Man Utd are aggressively increasing their after/ in-school sports provision around most of Greater Manchester... something the community trust will need to be aware of. Clearly there must be a benefit to the parent club to have such a presence in schools.
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The Ogden Family
at 11:34 27 Mar 2024

Colin got an OBE following his time as Head at Hodgson School in Poulton - Le- Fylde. He married Anne Butterworth , erstwhile Balderstone domestic science teacher and Milly Clamp protoge.
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The Ogden Family
at 09:20 27 Mar 2024

"Chalky" Robinshaw taught maths, outside the classroom he was a chain smoker , hence the stick of chalk constantly held like a ciggy where the nick name came from..
Other well remembered Staff from my schooldays.." Elsie" Tanner, the unfortunately named Mr Cox , Derek Slavin, Gilbert Spring, Geoff Holt, Sidney "pin" Richardson, Jack "Basher" Richardson, Roy Snape, Gordon Hedges, " Farmer" Randall, John Sanderson (music) , Eric Bamford, Don Altham, ... and then they let girls in!
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Building for next season
at 08:52 27 Mar 2024

It worries me that because we have been offering 2 year contracts, we have got into this situation where there is a huge clear out at the end of each season. Somehow we need to break this cycle but it would require some 3 year deals because I suspect players are forcing our hand and demanding minimum 2 year deals.
Maybe if our finances improve, we could be offering players that prove themselves a 3rd season at the end of their 1st season...indeed we dont know if this is happening right now, but the financial problems will no doubt have unsettled a number of possible resignings. Tricky times....
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The Ogden Family
at 19:40 26 Mar 2024

Hmm you might be still on my " owes me a homework list" !!
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The Ogden Family
at 19:34 26 Mar 2024

This club has been limping along for far too long. The sell a player, get a premiership cup tie mentality has ignored some basic truths, gates are stagnant, football has been often less than mediocre, customer service has been hit and miss and too many fans have simply given up and found better things to do.
The culture has become bunkered rather than outgoing and inclusive. Its hard to blame the current board as they have spent their entire period in charge lurching from crisis to crisis. Trusting people to do their jobs properly has proved to be a mistake and sacking them expensive.
As mentioned above its now time to re-build. But we need a clear plan for what the future has to look like, off the pitch more than on it in the first instance. A month by month plan to bring in new customers, make the occasion as enjoyable as possible, excite our younger fans, re engage with missing fans... clear, visible marketing and comms, aimed at a wider audience than just the regulars.
Whatever is built has to be resilient and built to last with multi-year timelines that are proofed against personel changes. I actually think this is a point in history for many football clubs and I fear many, including some with similar histories to ours will not survive, so, hopefully, the new influx of brains , business and financial know how and some cash, will enable a new Dale to emerge from the wreakage in a long-lasting and sustainable way playing decent football with lots of new faces watching and enjoying the experience. Just as it should be.
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Max Taylor Departs On Loan
at 14:58 26 Mar 2024

Taylor needs games and hasn't had any real opportunity to have a run in his favoured RHS position because EEL has been more or less ever present. In his cameo on Saturday, playing on the right was, I thought he looked decent and his long throw was useful under the circumstances.
He has some pedigree but lost his way with his cancer problems maybe a few games and a different voice in his ear will do him good.
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The Ogden Family
at 20:56 25 Mar 2024

Count me in ...... last of the 11 plus intake in 1964, and then taught there for 5 years 74-79
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The Ogden Family
at 20:53 25 Mar 2024

I think you can thank the Trust for that James...
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The Ogden Family
at 18:27 25 Mar 2024

Probably dead bearing in mind the Ogdens now are the preferred buyers. But it would be a foolish man who broke off all links to WSH, we need as many allies and friends around the globe as we can manage.
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The Ogden Family
at 15:56 25 Mar 2024

Their statement says the first team and the academy will be in their medium term plans, if we can grow and improve the Academy and hang on to the graduates a season longer rather than selling them in a fire sale situation it could become self financing. If we were to be financially secure, decisions can be made based on what is right for the club as well as the player, which should result in higher transfer fees and more youngsters coming into the academy.
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The Ogden Family
at 15:21 25 Mar 2024

Sustainability regardless of football success is the clue to our future. The board have been pushing for a training ground / community facility at a designated space just off the new M62 exit at Heywood. Financing that would bring in sufficient revenue to allow the team to flourish and will save the cost of Platt Lane. Relatively small investments can re-ignite plans for things like using the kitchens for take aways , maybe some ground infrastucture refurbishment to attract more room hire etc. And a revitalised commercial department.
This is a turning point for the club, a one in a million opportunity to be grabbed with both hands. Lets make this work!
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The Exiles are back in town…..
at 10:58 24 Mar 2024

Barnet has been totally erased from my memory banks too.
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The Exiles are back in town…..
at 22:17 23 Mar 2024

Sassi did OK bearing in mind he was thrown in at the deep end for his first senior game and was obviously nervous to start with. The new Keeper showed some excellent handling and seemed very calm, and even found time to order his defenders about a bit, something we have been short of...
We were discussing who might be around for next season , if there is one, and it could be another huge clear out, looking at those who are actually contracted, who we would want to keep and who might leave. there will be some big decisions to be made....If we get new owners and a bit of brass to spend, Chapman , on todays performance, would be at the top of my list, Hayes another, and you wonder if Mather might be loaned for a season in the NL or will United want him to play higher up the pyramid? Would we give Hendo another season? Would he want one? We concluded that Ferguson is the only contracted defender if Nevett leaves... Decisions decisions....
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Independent football regulator - it's happening
at 21:40 19 Mar 2024

I am too old to believe that they will change their spots... people who get these sorts of jobs are not appointed because they are dynamic original thinkers...They will be Party hacks and failures in their previous positions.. that's how it works , Peters Principle, overpromoted beyond their capabilities to get them out of the way of important stuff. The EFL is morally bankrupt, totally self-serving and in thrall of the bigger clubs and of course (mainly) the TV companies. But I bet the "perks" are fantastic.... Why do you imagine Bottom was trying to ingratiate himself there?
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Independent football regulator - it's happening
at 20:20 19 Mar 2024

I'm not sure the lower leagues need another level of incompetence. This sounds like jobs for men and a few women in blazers and old school ties... Lower league football needs to sort itself out, if the chairmen don't realise it, they should. They simply cannot go on dreaming of promotion to the " big club" to fix their financial problems.
The EFL is essentially Premiership 2, it is almost entirely devoted to maintaining the Championship as somewhere that permits the promotion and relegation to and from the Premiership to be maintained, despite the fact that outside the biggest 15 or so clubs, there is no realistic chance of a sustained premiership life. The EFL cash distribution is unfair, the biased voting arrangements mean nothing can change for small clubs.
Its time for the lower echelons of the EFL to recognise that the EFL is part of the problem rather than a solution. When a third of the members get 90% of the money, its time for the two thirds to vote with their feet and join the NL to set up a new organisation designed to seriously promote and support lower leagues and create a rising tide that lifts all the boats.
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New Trust Statement..
at 22:30 18 Mar 2024

The longer this goes on the better I feel about the outcome.... But I have everything crossed.

There is lots to sort out, no doubt, but I imagine the longer it takes, assuming the big stuff gets sorted first, the negotiations then boil down to the legal minutiae... Lawyers don't rush and so we wait....the time differences won't help either if the WSH lawyers are in Texas.....We are 5 hours ahead of Dallas.
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