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With Just Under A Week To Go...
at 20:13 19 Sep 2019

...what are the thoughts of fellow Dalies on expectations against Man U and the kind of side they'll put out?

Guess we'll be making a whole lot more on gate receipts than the meagre £10k for winning a 3rd round tie when even winning the Carabao Cup still only offers £100k; Ok added Wembley gate receipts too.

Any takers for a shock result or should we be concentrating on League? Plus, is there any stipulation for the type of team they must/can play?
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Chesterfield?
at 12:10 12 Sep 2019

Sort of guessed that Chesterfield were having a rough time in the Conference but never realised they were already 5 points adrift at the very bottom.

Not so many years ago didn't they build a new all-purpose stadium that was supposedly self-financing and was at the cutting edge of the way lower league (and other) footie clubs were hoping to go in that it could be used for other stuff. ie. Not closed for 13 days in every fortnight.

Always saw them as generally having bigger support than us but does anyone know how/why this has come about? What's gone wrong? Is it ownership, bad management. I enjoyed away days at their old ground but is the £14M alleged regeneration being mooted for us part of a similar pathway? Worrying.
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OK, What A Lack Of A Match Does?
at 16:14 7 Sep 2019

Can we make a balanced side out of ex-Dalies playing today. I see Widdowson (assume it's him) scored an own goal in the Orient v Swindon game.

Mansfield/Scunny game makes for easy pickings - see if you can add?

Shows how far we really have come if we can fill a team-sheet especially when no Champ. or Prem.
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Great To See Morley...
at 10:37 28 Aug 2019

...scoring another goal last night; bring it on!

He's obviously getting game time now and perhaps so he should be - 20 early next year.

How far do others see him going in the game?
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Does Anyone Know If Higginbotham...
at 21:13 14 Aug 2019

...went to Kashmir?

Things not looking good as tourists and workers flee, but might be different for footballers, as India revokes it's 'special status' - guessing that could be something like the EFL removing funding to their members and saying just get on with it?
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In Light Of All This Reported Financial...
at 08:33 13 Aug 2019

...mismanagement by owners etc. at footie clubs, (call it what you will), I was having a deeper think about this in respect to The Dale. OK, you cannot stop these folk wanting to 'flex' their egos and there's no doubting what huge wealth there is out there (or not)?!!

Also, and has recently happened (and quite possibly happens in hundreds of other ways) a director uses, say shirt sponsorship, to stream income to the pitch and provide extra clout which would normally not be a part of that supposedly 'safe' 60/65% of overall income. ie. You could be a shirt sponsor for £20M over 3 years, (if you've that money), and so the same percentage of that income can then be diverted elsewhere?

Obviously this is hypothetical but quite probably not far from the truth with some club's owners 'play things'.

So, rewind to The Dale. Surely it would be in the efl's interests and that of clubs like ourselves to be seen to be benefiting from keeping books in good order. There could even be a league table whereby the top 5 - 10 receive 'another' lump sum payment every year for doing so. (Surely £300k-£500k would not be out of order and it could be a way whereby more money trickles down, but in a legitimate and fair way).

I doubt it's going to bother very wealthy owners but could be a nice windfall for 'doing it the right way' and it could be a huge difference in our long-term survival; particularly in L1 but also the League - just take a look at all those familiar yesteryear fixtures in non-league.

If you're still with me (and thanks if you are) I read that Lincoln City are 'spent up' on this years playing budget. Their meteoric rise has most probably been ignited by their new chairman's initial investment and so, what were 2,000'ish gates in the Football Conference suddenly becomes 8,000. Can anyone else see where this one 'might be/could be' going?

You can have a read here. Of course it could just be smokescreens but I think not.

https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/sport/football/danny-cowley-reveals-theres-no

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Might Have Missed This One...
at 20:34 26 Jul 2019

...but has someone left the club who had this job?

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2019/july/job-vacancy--head-of-academy-coachi

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Nothing Exciting Yet...BUT...
at 13:52 2 Jul 2019

...if you could choose and sign an ex-player (from whatever time in our history) to come in and really bolster the squad and perhaps inspire us getting top-half; who would it be?

Personally, I'm leaving players like Lambert/Murray/Holt/Hogan although it'd be nice to get Scotty back just to build his confidence back up. Of course doesn't have to be a striker but feel we need someone to compliment Hendo (who has obv. been highly inspirational in any case).

So, perhaps controversially? I'm going for a fully-fit and hungry Paul Connor.

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OK, So There's THE Bury thread and talk of training...
at 10:41 1 Jul 2019

...facilities again, but never realised Carrington was rent free?

Read on...

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-ev

Another online quote says...

"The CVA confirms that BFC pays a peppercorn rent but that a covenant requires the upkeep of the facilities - circa £350k per year."

As the saying goes...nothing is life is for free.
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Could One or Two Let me know if this can be seen; thanks...then I'll explain
at 19:01 3 Mar 2019

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9p7omjw0ks25jjp/Football%20League%20Attendances%20and%
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Just Looked Up...
at 19:03 2 Mar 2019

...where we were @ played 35 last season when we'd just lost at home to Fleetwood 2-0, albeit amost 3 weeks later (20 March), well, you never know...footie's a strange game...we'll no doubt see.

19 Wimbledon 37 -11 42
20 Oldham 36 -12 40
21 Northampton 38 -25 40
22 MK Dons 37 -14 38
23 Rochdale 35 -10 34
24 Bury 37 -24 30
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Chances Of Being Off??
at 17:51 1 Feb 2019

See that Port Vale have postponed due to a frozen pitch - (is Colin Garlick still there)?

Not looking good but guess that there could be swathes of call-offs early morning.
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Don't Know If Anyone Else...
at 21:54 5 Jan 2019

...noticed this today...the advertised attendance.

Was someone at the club trying to be cryptic or something? Read into that what you will.

'666' - the number of the beast!

Attendance : 2,666
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Another Hill...
at 20:42 17 Dec 2018

About a year ago a few supporters from different clubs got talking in the pub about league position and attendances and whether or not there was any correlation between the two. (silly question really)??!!

Anyway, we decided that a 30 year 'snapshot', (ie last 30 years), should suffice and so an average attendance over all those years and an average final finishing position was worked out for all clubs from the Prem. down to League 2. ie., all of a club's positions and attendances totalled and divided by the number of seasons.

Had to use available stats on t'internet and there may be errors but don't think so. All clubs represented were a part of either the Prem. or efl as of Dec. 2017. No clubs represented who are presently below L2 but those that left and returned have had their final positions added in; eg could have been 10th in Conf. which would equal 102nd as a finishing pos.

What was positive was that it missed a serious chunk of Dale's Mire-Days between '73 and '86. Another point is that there 'might' be clubs who are presently non-league who could/would leapfrog certain positions but are not included in the snapshot. Finally, the colours just differentiate the different leagues.

PS. I aint doing this again!

https://previews.dropbox.com/p/orig/AAR7k5xY4J7pXyE4x5jyx56L-X0OubpJL_jVPzsazxk8
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Good Read Here...
at 18:50 12 Nov 2018

...for anyone interested.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_last_pass

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Very Interesting Post Match...
at 13:14 11 Nov 2018

...interviews with Hilly.

Talks extremely highly of the youth set-up and obviously Adshead but also mentions Matheson and that he too could play in the Prem. I personally thought that all of the youth playing on Wednesday were a massive credit to our club with Hoti, Yonsian & Hamzat all contibuting - not forgeting the later sub. Hopper who I thought was exceptional. At the same time being backed up by great pros. like Calvin, Clough and Alby.

Easy to forget the youngsters ages - bridging that gap to full-time senior perhaps being the make or break as with all in pro. sport.

Keith also mentions the goalkeeping situation and how it's causing him lost sleep and how we've just let far too many daft goals in through errors; have to agree there.

Other stuff that was of note - how we suddenly went long-ball 2nd half which was exactly what he hadn't asked for! (Is this why he can get niggled with supporter's comments when it's just a case of 'the players have crossed that white line'.

Strange reference to bury fans he meets/talks to and their love? of being in a winning L2 team. Compared that to what they're doing at Dale but that he'd much prefer the opportunities that exist being in L1. Know what he was implying as that first promotion with Dale had us well clear at the top for a long, long time and if we're all honest following the Dale then when it seemed you might win every game; well, it's at least fun!

Opinions?
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A NEW Thread - aside from the...
at 14:31 14 Oct 2018

...matchday one.

Have read all of that, with great interest, but lots is going round and round.

I suppose we'll all have our own opinions - however biased or not they might be - before we read or post. Sometimes it doesn't seem to matter how half-full some folks glass might be; it's nearly always...half-empty...or even empty and that is 'sometimes' a reflection of them and their lives - either at that time or perhaps just their characters.

Someone posted about it being like 30 years ago (the footie). 30 years ago
we were 'just' coming to the end of a run of 16'ish seasons in Div. 4 with an AVERAGE finishing position a tad short of 20th! Gates were equally impressive with the same period averaging 1,789.

Someone else posted, and maybe others, about perhaps getting things in perspective. Others have posted that Donny were nowt - but at present average around 7,000 home gates and that's about double ours.

We seem to be coming up regularly now against teams that, on paper, are bigger guns. Whether marginally or in different leagues is another debate.

OK, the defensive errors need seriously addressing BUT there is much to be happy and grateful about and there's surely never been a time when Rochdale AFC has so much young talent coming through.

We'll bounce back again and could finish top half with some luck and tweeks here and there. UTD!!!

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As Things Are Looking Up...
at 21:30 15 Sep 2018

...I was trying to remember the highest and lowest attendances where I'd attended matches at Spotland; not pre-season but competitive 1st team League or Cup matches.

Never bought many home programmes in more recent years but have stacks from way-back-when. So, although not all details available I was a supporter (but not attending) the 2-1 FA Cup victory over Coventry in 1971 (played on a Monday afternoon re-failing floodlights?) when I think the gate was about 13,000. Saw my first game around 1972/73 and seem to think there was an all-time-low of about 400'ish. Perhaps someone can fill in the details of that - was it Cambridge at home and was that also something to do with power cuts/miners strike/floodlights? and therefore played on a mid-week afternoon?

Anyways, digressing here a tad.

Think mine were from the same season - Northampton (FA Cup) 1989/90 : 9,048 and Chester (Ley.Daf.) : 787.

Both these matches were when Spotland was the old ground with the Pearl Street Hill/Mound which I believe was made from deposits collected in levelling the pitch? Some deposits hey? Or some slope?

I'd be interested to know what your individual highest and lowest attended matches at Spotland were and does anyone know of anyone who attended when there was the record 24,000 against Notts County?

Also, can anyone verify whether that 9,000'ish gate has been surpassed since (apart from any rugby league final) the ground came into it's present state - ie. re-all the newer stands?

Many thanks if you can be as boring as me! One point of interest is that Dale's average league attendance over the last 30 years is 2,718 which is very similar to what it is today.

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Fascinating Reading The Recent...
at 20:18 27 Aug 2018

...Dale postings and very interesting to hear all the ifs, buts, whys etc.

Only seen the one game this season - at Grimsby BUT it does seem to tie in with a lot of other reading. Won't bark on about that too much as it isn't what I want to ask but the match was played at a very pedestrian pace first half and we played way too deep to the point that Lillis was dispossessed in his own box. On the night we weren't punished by a team which is very much in the making. 2nd half livened up as there had obviously been some bollocking. We won just about every ball closing down well. Cannon was instrumental in taking the ball forward on numerous occasions and we looked dangerous. Both Rathbone's goals were taken very well but Keith said we looked 'Fluffy' in the final third and wouldn't disagree with that tbh.

I was thinking to myself, this is the same team and stand where Holt scored many moons ago, and Murray in a 4-0 trouncing on New Year's Day 2007 and perhaps sealed the job for KH at the time. Other scorers against Grimsby have included Lambert, Le Fondre and O'Grady amongst others.

So basically - correct me if I'm wrong - but (back then) the beginnings of the end of 'Likkle-Ole-Rochdale'. Players regularly moved on for money and then add-ons. The list continues with a few others but notably Dawson and Hogan - they were/are real winners and no one could ever doubt Jonah's contributions in that time. My guess is we really did hit jackpot and the 'no fear' mentality certainly buoyed the most optimistic period in the history of RAFC than had previously been witnessed. (Well, at least in 40 years).

I found Steve Bruce's comments about Hogan joining Villa tied in with what I tend to feel about the present situation at Dale. He said summats like..."he's a bit like the rabbit caught in the headlights." Banging in the goals at Brentford in a side with no fear. Suddenly, at a massive sleeping giant with immediate expectations...the story board changes.

So, are we now in the situation where we have to pay much more of the going rate to sign a level of player capable of playing in League 1 who perhaps is coming to us towards the end of their career? And, are we a bit 'rabbits in the headlights' in that the expectations on some of the younger players just isn't coming off how the club and supporters would have wished at this level? (Do realise we had to part with the 2 to Burton before the beginning of last season btw).

Discuss; please.

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Dobre and that GOAL....
at 14:14 8 Mar 2018

Just wondered how this goal rates amongst all time classics at Dale. Seem to think Paddy McCourt did some incredible stuff, "sometimes", but for me this has got to be up there with Henderson's touches of brilliance and some others? Debate....

PS. Hope Dobre manages to climb down from the clouds, or is pulled, as ANY player to score a goal like that mightn't realise that it's possibly a once-in- a-lifetime. Of course bring it on again if that's just a taster - it could be that extra bit of magic to raise the confidence in the whole squad that notch higher for L1 survival.
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