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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! 14th Sep 2018 09:23
Back in May this site called for the club to look at ticket pricing to re engage with it's supporters and make them feel more than just customers, they didn't and now look set to pay the price. 12




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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 11:47 - Sep 14 with 1317 viewsUlsterBaz

Yep, it’s absolutely embarrassing. One of my mates from back home messaged me this week with a link to a Groupon offer for Saints tickets. They were laughing their ballix off that we need to do that. Heard an advert for tickets on Capital South Coast earlier on too. Shambolic it’s got to this stage.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 12:03 - Sep 14 with 1312 viewsMushty

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 11:47 - Sep 14 by UlsterBaz

Yep, it’s absolutely embarrassing. One of my mates from back home messaged me this week with a link to a Groupon offer for Saints tickets. They were laughing their ballix off that we need to do that. Heard an advert for tickets on Capital South Coast earlier on too. Shambolic it’s got to this stage.


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(No subject) (n/t) on 12:06 - Sep 14 with 1309 viewsRon11

(No subject) (n/t) on 12:03 - Sep 14 by Mushty



Needs an immediate clear out starting with Kreuger.
The man's a fu cking idiot.
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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 14:29 - Sep 14 with 1238 viewscocklebreath

Its not difficult, drop matchday prices by a fiver for all seats and knock £100 off all season tickets, fans will come flocking back, i think our ticket office is fooking hopeless, last seasons fa cup semi final balls up was probably the worst, maybe its the thick as sh£t board that make the decisions.

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 15:39 - Sep 15 with 1048 views1ASIN12

Saints season tickets and match day tickets are one of the most expensive for a club of our size / stature compared to other clubs of our size and stature. Even some bigger clubs sell season tickets cheaper than us.

For the last couple of seasons even games against the bigger sides have been slow to sell out, and in most cases visiting fans have been thrown out in the Itchen stand near to where I sit.

We simply have not got a big enough fan base willing to pay the prices the club are asking on a regular basis.

The club should have acted last summer and reduced both , they didn't and are now struggling to fill the stadium.

This offer for the Brighton game has managed to upset both season ticket holders and those who had already paid £38 - 40 for a ticket.
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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 16:29 - Sep 15 with 1022 viewsJaySaint

£42+ to seat near the half way line. At home to Brighton, in the week and on Telly


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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 16:41 - Sep 15 with 1016 viewsKennington

Nice little dig at Cortese in the article. In those days weren’t we selling out, so by definition the price must have been ok? In theory and factoring inflation the price should still be fine still now, but..

Since then about £200m worth of players have been sold and replaced with sub-standard punts. And no don’t Kat and Gao have done very nicely out of us during this time. There wouldn’t be a fraction of the complaints if the team was challenging for 6th or 7th. The only reason why people don’t go is ticket prices now don’t equate to the woefully poor home performances that are served up nearly every game at St Mary’s. Simple as that. If Krueger’s vision is for us to be a little club, then ticket prices shouldn’t be more than £30.

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 19:33 - Sep 15 with 944 viewsjordan_sibley

I've got very little motivation to support a club whose sole purpose is lining the pockets of Liebherr and is a handy offshore (out of China) money dump for Gao. Year on year the best players are sold. Year on year only a pittance is spent on players (relative to what we have sold and the money we get for being in the top flight). The very bottom priority for either of them is the club, let alone the fans. We are emblematic of modern football, and it's rotten to the core. The empty seats are not surprising, what is surprising is that more aren't empty.
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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 19:45 - Sep 15 with 930 viewsstraight_pass

Many feel the same way Jordan.
And, if we don’t see the fans taken more seriously many more Season Ticket holders will not renew next season. It’s a real shame but how else can the fans show their disgust at the club’s ruthless business/profit ambitions, when we all want football ambition!
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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 20:02 - Sep 15 with 916 viewsthis_charming_man

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 16:41 - Sep 15 by Kennington

Nice little dig at Cortese in the article. In those days weren’t we selling out, so by definition the price must have been ok? In theory and factoring inflation the price should still be fine still now, but..

Since then about £200m worth of players have been sold and replaced with sub-standard punts. And no don’t Kat and Gao have done very nicely out of us during this time. There wouldn’t be a fraction of the complaints if the team was challenging for 6th or 7th. The only reason why people don’t go is ticket prices now don’t equate to the woefully poor home performances that are served up nearly every game at St Mary’s. Simple as that. If Krueger’s vision is for us to be a little club, then ticket prices shouldn’t be more than £30.


Exactly. It isn’t the price. Yes we are expensive but every club would tell you prices should be cheaper. it’s the fact that for two seasons there has been zero entertainment, what is it 4 wins in 25 home games along with a general disillusionment with how the club is being run then it’s no wonder people can’t be arsed with going on a Monday night to watch a game that’s on telly.

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 10:03 - Sep 16 with 785 viewsSaintNick

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 16:41 - Sep 15 by Kennington

Nice little dig at Cortese in the article. In those days weren’t we selling out, so by definition the price must have been ok? In theory and factoring inflation the price should still be fine still now, but..

Since then about £200m worth of players have been sold and replaced with sub-standard punts. And no don’t Kat and Gao have done very nicely out of us during this time. There wouldn’t be a fraction of the complaints if the team was challenging for 6th or 7th. The only reason why people don’t go is ticket prices now don’t equate to the woefully poor home performances that are served up nearly every game at St Mary’s. Simple as that. If Krueger’s vision is for us to be a little club, then ticket prices shouldn’t be more than £30.


We didnt sell out in the Premier League under Cortese eiither I remember the first game back in the Premier league against Wigan saw a few thousand empty seats, Saints V Everton on a Monday night sky game saw only 28,359 in attendance

Even in his last season where we spent a lot of time in and around the top 10 we had a fair few sub 30k attendances.

You are right the main thing that matters is the team doing well, the price becomes an excuse for not going when things arent so good.

This season was always going to be difficult and this article was all about how the club should have recognised that and looked at pricing, encouraging people to become season ticket holders etc.

As for Jordan's uninformed comment that it was all about the fact that Liebherr & Gao lining their pockets, im interested to find out how they are doing it the fact they let £58 million be paid out in transfers and failed miserably to line their own pockets says that the only thing they are truly getting wrong is their own asset stripping

But it it is comments like this bandied around social media that have helped build this aura of negativity that now surrounds the club

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 11:54 - Sep 16 with 745 viewsthis_charming_man

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 10:03 - Sep 16 by SaintNick

We didnt sell out in the Premier League under Cortese eiither I remember the first game back in the Premier league against Wigan saw a few thousand empty seats, Saints V Everton on a Monday night sky game saw only 28,359 in attendance

Even in his last season where we spent a lot of time in and around the top 10 we had a fair few sub 30k attendances.

You are right the main thing that matters is the team doing well, the price becomes an excuse for not going when things arent so good.

This season was always going to be difficult and this article was all about how the club should have recognised that and looked at pricing, encouraging people to become season ticket holders etc.

As for Jordan's uninformed comment that it was all about the fact that Liebherr & Gao lining their pockets, im interested to find out how they are doing it the fact they let £58 million be paid out in transfers and failed miserably to line their own pockets says that the only thing they are truly getting wrong is their own asset stripping

But it it is comments like this bandied around social media that have helped build this aura of negativity that now surrounds the club


We brought in £85m in transfer fees this year (yes I appreciate Celtic had a sell on fee so the really figure is about £7m less)

Whilst I don’t agree they are lining their own pockets not a single person can give a convincing argument as to why we are the only club in the premier league who have to fund transfers by sales. Please don’t insult people’s intelligence by saying it’s due to agents fees, bonuses etc because every single other club pays those as well. If I’m not much mistaken don’t we often congratulate ourselves on how relatively low our agents fees are?

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 14:36 - Sep 16 with 692 viewsPatfromPoole

Assuming the Ings deal becomes permanent, haven’t we effectively spent all of the van Dick money?
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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 14:44 - Sep 16 with 690 views1teeminants

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 20:02 - Sep 15 by this_charming_man

Exactly. It isn’t the price. Yes we are expensive but every club would tell you prices should be cheaper. it’s the fact that for two seasons there has been zero entertainment, what is it 4 wins in 25 home games along with a general disillusionment with how the club is being run then it’s no wonder people can’t be arsed with going on a Monday night to watch a game that’s on telly.


I agree but It’s not just that . People are just fed up with the top 6 and all the praise and coverage they get and the rest of us just exist. Some including me are sick of it and many are voting with their feet. I enjoy the social side of it as well as the football but I do understand why some aren’t bothering.

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 14:48 - Sep 16 with 685 viewsKennington

Of course Gao and Kat are lining their own pockets. That doesn’t mean though they’re selling off the board room cutlery but every top player has gone. What they’ve done is made sure that we are just and only just able to stay in the league. As getting relegated will ruin their very healthy income stream. Even by this model they probably cut too much last season, hence the January panic buy of an expensive but useless forward.

Nick, genuinely interested to know what you think Gao’s intentions are if not to make money from us.
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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 18:12 - Sep 16 with 601 viewsUTS

General pricing on everything at SFC is around 10% higher than it should be from tickets to merchandise and food. My 'picking and choosing' games over recent seasons has dried up tenfold. I have followed the club for decades and pricing has got so crazy that its an instant turn off, alongside the dire football on show. You then add the tens of thousands of pounds wasted on folded bits of card and some dog bashing a drum, i lose all interest.

How many season ticket holders have the club last season ? its got to be a good 1500 if not more.
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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 21:19 - Sep 16 with 507 viewsSaintNick

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 14:48 - Sep 16 by Kennington

Of course Gao and Kat are lining their own pockets. That doesn’t mean though they’re selling off the board room cutlery but every top player has gone. What they’ve done is made sure that we are just and only just able to stay in the league. As getting relegated will ruin their very healthy income stream. Even by this model they probably cut too much last season, hence the January panic buy of an expensive but useless forward.

Nick, genuinely interested to know what you think Gao’s intentions are if not to make money from us.
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There is a reason that every top player goes, it's because they are top players, a year ago we tried to hang on to VVD and look what happened, yet still people bang on about we are a selling club.

We need to look where the Premier League now stands, we have to sell to survive, if we are not selling players then we are not succeeding, hence the fact that we didnt lose many players this summer.

The last accounts didnt show Kat lining her pockets other than a few loans being either written off or paid back.

The club is run how her Father markus always intended it to be, run as a business self sufficient.

They are not trying to just stay in the league they are trying to hit the the top ten, however as Burnley are showing this season, finishing sixth is no guaranteed of success the next season, Everton are spending heavily but arent doing that well.

The club know that there is a sending limit where however much more you spend you are not going to finish any higher.

They have got things wrong in the transfer market, but the two key areas were beyond their control, they forced VVD to stay and he behaved disgracefully and then Austin got a long term injury and left them short of an attacker

Whether Carillow was a useless forward is open to discussion, yes he didnt score, but then again no one else did either. he was no better or worse than those around him

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 21:33 - Sep 16 with 494 viewsSaintNick

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 11:54 - Sep 16 by this_charming_man

We brought in £85m in transfer fees this year (yes I appreciate Celtic had a sell on fee so the really figure is about £7m less)

Whilst I don’t agree they are lining their own pockets not a single person can give a convincing argument as to why we are the only club in the premier league who have to fund transfers by sales. Please don’t insult people’s intelligence by saying it’s due to agents fees, bonuses etc because every single other club pays those as well. If I’m not much mistaken don’t we often congratulate ourselves on how relatively low our agents fees are?


Since the summer of 2017 we have brought in £95 million, VVD £75m, Rodriguez £10 m, £ Tadic £10m

In return in the same period we have spent, £83 million, so given the amount we had to pay Celtic, probably just north of £10 million so the figures are just about balancing themselves up.

We might be the only club that runs as a business, ie we are self sufficient but that isnt neccessarily a bad thing as many clubs have found out, when the owners put in £30 million for the record transfer it is rarely a gift but all loans that need to be repaid sometime.

Im not insulting peoples intelligence at all by talking about agents fees etc, people insult their own intelligences by keeping on moaning that the owner is pocketing money when there is absolutely no evidence so far of this, that he isnt putting his hand into his pocket when from the very first moment Markus Liebherr came into the club he made it quiet clear his business model was to make it self sufficient.

The choice is clear, if you want to support a club who have someone who is able to throw money into transfers year in year out then you are following the wrong club, you need to support one of the top six , or one of the wanna be top six like Newcastle, Everton & West Ham all of who have spent big but arent exactly doing that much better than us.

If you want to support a club that has a strategy that has worked very well in four of the last five seasons and is about a sustainable business model then support Saints

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 21:36 - Sep 16 with 490 viewsButty101

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 21:19 - Sep 16 by SaintNick

There is a reason that every top player goes, it's because they are top players, a year ago we tried to hang on to VVD and look what happened, yet still people bang on about we are a selling club.

We need to look where the Premier League now stands, we have to sell to survive, if we are not selling players then we are not succeeding, hence the fact that we didnt lose many players this summer.

The last accounts didnt show Kat lining her pockets other than a few loans being either written off or paid back.

The club is run how her Father markus always intended it to be, run as a business self sufficient.

They are not trying to just stay in the league they are trying to hit the the top ten, however as Burnley are showing this season, finishing sixth is no guaranteed of success the next season, Everton are spending heavily but arent doing that well.

The club know that there is a sending limit where however much more you spend you are not going to finish any higher.

They have got things wrong in the transfer market, but the two key areas were beyond their control, they forced VVD to stay and he behaved disgracefully and then Austin got a long term injury and left them short of an attacker

Whether Carillow was a useless forward is open to discussion, yes he didnt score, but then again no one else did either. he was no better or worse than those around him


How do you know Kat and Gao are not taking a penny out of the club? I would bet they take a sizeable salary

it would be good to understand what Gaos motivation is for owning the club. Anyone that fails the fit and proper test should set alarm bells ringing.

Regarding ticket prices, they are far to expensive. With zero entertainment I understand why people don't go. I admire people for sticking with it regardless. I get the odd free ticket and struggle to be bothered to go.

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 22:19 - Sep 16 with 475 viewsSaintNick

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 21:36 - Sep 16 by Butty101

How do you know Kat and Gao are not taking a penny out of the club? I would bet they take a sizeable salary

it would be good to understand what Gaos motivation is for owning the club. Anyone that fails the fit and proper test should set alarm bells ringing.

Regarding ticket prices, they are far to expensive. With zero entertainment I understand why people don't go. I admire people for sticking with it regardless. I get the odd free ticket and struggle to be bothered to go.


The accounts show what is and isnt taken out of the club, why would you bet they take a sizeable salary, if you are the major sareholder in the company you certainly dont pay yourself a sizable salary that will be taxed higher than dividends on profits, so Im sorry but you are showing a naivety about how big companies are structured.

You are also guilty of either reading social media and taking it as gospel or spreading it.

The fit and proper test has certain set criteria that mean some people will fail, but then they present the full evidence and that is taken rather than set criteria

I agree ticket prices are expensive, they need to be lower, the club needed to make a statement to the fans and didnt.

Zero entertainment, I hat that phrase, what is entertainment ? certainly there has been precious little of it at SFC in the last 30 years, yet suddenly it is the big factor as why people are walking away.

You follow a football club as its in your blood its your team, if you want guaranteed entertainment then follow Manchester united thats why they have such a big fan base its all people who demand trophies and entertainment.

Football is all about watching matches that matter, not entertainment, if it was why do so many walk when we are getting slaughtered after all its entertaining seeing free flowing football.

In the last two seasons I have see perhaps five of the greatest dozen games I have ever seen in the clubs history, I wasnt entertained in any of them, but the result mattered, but some seem to thing that beating Norwich 4-1 is better than a 1-0 win at Anfield in the league cup semi final.

I realised at age 10 in my first games, that i want going to games to be entertained or to see us win trophies, I go because that is what i do, if you don't have that inside you then fair enough I'm not slagging people off, I feel sorry for them

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 22:59 - Sep 16 with 451 viewsButty101

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 22:19 - Sep 16 by SaintNick

The accounts show what is and isnt taken out of the club, why would you bet they take a sizeable salary, if you are the major sareholder in the company you certainly dont pay yourself a sizable salary that will be taxed higher than dividends on profits, so Im sorry but you are showing a naivety about how big companies are structured.

You are also guilty of either reading social media and taking it as gospel or spreading it.

The fit and proper test has certain set criteria that mean some people will fail, but then they present the full evidence and that is taken rather than set criteria

I agree ticket prices are expensive, they need to be lower, the club needed to make a statement to the fans and didnt.

Zero entertainment, I hat that phrase, what is entertainment ? certainly there has been precious little of it at SFC in the last 30 years, yet suddenly it is the big factor as why people are walking away.

You follow a football club as its in your blood its your team, if you want guaranteed entertainment then follow Manchester united thats why they have such a big fan base its all people who demand trophies and entertainment.

Football is all about watching matches that matter, not entertainment, if it was why do so many walk when we are getting slaughtered after all its entertaining seeing free flowing football.

In the last two seasons I have see perhaps five of the greatest dozen games I have ever seen in the clubs history, I wasnt entertained in any of them, but the result mattered, but some seem to thing that beating Norwich 4-1 is better than a 1-0 win at Anfield in the league cup semi final.

I realised at age 10 in my first games, that i want going to games to be entertained or to see us win trophies, I go because that is what i do, if you don't have that inside you then fair enough I'm not slagging people off, I feel sorry for them


how can you say they don't take a wage, when the accounts don't break down the wages into that granularity. He's not in for the love.
Re the fit and proper test, you should do your research, it's well documented that he failed the test. Only to get through 2nd time on a technically. A loop whole the premiership quickly closed.

This is where you and me differ. I had that passion as a 10 year old and for many years. However I'm now 45 and have moved on. I get a lot more pleasure spending time with my young family than spending the best part of £100 to watch aloud of millionaires chase a ball around. A ball that invariably gets passed back and forward along the defence.

the last two seasons have conversely given the fans 50 of the least entertaining games.

I feel sorry for people that are Middle Aged, that have to spend every weekend following a football team. I would feel my life's a bit empty.

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 23:27 - Sep 16 with 435 viewsButty101

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/premier-league-bosses-appr

Premiership change rules on fit and proper test, due to Gao

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Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 21:17 - Sep 17 with 250 viewsRustyhelmet

Saints Ticket Price Policy Failure Sees Thousands Of Empty Seats ! on 10:03 - Sep 16 by SaintNick

We didnt sell out in the Premier League under Cortese eiither I remember the first game back in the Premier league against Wigan saw a few thousand empty seats, Saints V Everton on a Monday night sky game saw only 28,359 in attendance

Even in his last season where we spent a lot of time in and around the top 10 we had a fair few sub 30k attendances.

You are right the main thing that matters is the team doing well, the price becomes an excuse for not going when things arent so good.

This season was always going to be difficult and this article was all about how the club should have recognised that and looked at pricing, encouraging people to become season ticket holders etc.

As for Jordan's uninformed comment that it was all about the fact that Liebherr & Gao lining their pockets, im interested to find out how they are doing it the fact they let £58 million be paid out in transfers and failed miserably to line their own pockets says that the only thing they are truly getting wrong is their own asset stripping

But it it is comments like this bandied around social media that have helped build this aura of negativity that now surrounds the club


Nick, ref your last paragraph on this comment, your so full of bollocks it’s laughable. Social media, mongboards in particular, have very limited effect on “building negative aura”... what builds negativity is sh1t performances by average players who are then lauded on here by you as you’re clearly getting a bung from someone.

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