| Scousers at it again 13:17 - Jun 1 with 3198 views | Boris_ |
Watched BBC Breakfast this morning as there was a Scouse family on there who had sadly lost their father to Coronavirus.
They are demanding an independent enquiry as to why the Liverpool v Athletico Madrid game was allowed to go ahead.
Do they ever stop playing the victim card and find someone to blame? I am not sure that anyone was forced to go to the game? [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 13:18]
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| Scousers at it again on 13:24 - Jun 1 with 2345 views | kingslandstand1 |
I would maybe suggest there would have been uproar had the game been postponed citing the fact that Cheltenham went ahead
Maybe it shouldn't have gone ahead as Covid was by then starting to be prevalent in Spain, but do they know he picked it up at that game? |  | | |
| Scousers at it again on 13:29 - Jun 1 with 2336 views | Boris_ |
| Scousers at it again on 13:24 - Jun 1 by kingslandstand1 |
I would maybe suggest there would have been uproar had the game been postponed citing the fact that Cheltenham went ahead
Maybe it shouldn't have gone ahead as Covid was by then starting to be prevalent in Spain, but do they know he picked it up at that game? |
Yes and also, considering Spain was already in lockdown, are they unable to make a decision themselves on whether to attend the game or not? | |
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| Scousers at it again on 13:41 - Jun 1 with 2317 views | Wints76 |
It was very strange that fans were allowed to travel from a country that was locked down and arrive in Liverpool and use local taxis, buses, bars, restaurants and whatever other amenities. It is not just where they sat in Anfield. |  | | |
| Scousers at it again on 14:25 - Jun 1 with 2272 views | solent_toffee |
| Scousers at it again on 13:41 - Jun 1 by Wints76 |
It was very strange that fans were allowed to travel from a country that was locked down and arrive in Liverpool and use local taxis, buses, bars, restaurants and whatever other amenities. It is not just where they sat in Anfield. |
There have been reports that 43 people have died due to Covid-19 linked to that match. I remember at the time there was a lot of questions as to why it was going ahead given the situation in Madrid.
Unfortunately there football authorities didn’t take much notice to those concerns and so quite rightly there should be an inquiry into it, especially with the clamour to get back to normal and get fans back into stadiums. |  | | |
| Scousers at it again on 15:05 - Jun 1 with 2239 views | RednWight |
| Scousers at it again on 13:29 - Jun 1 by Boris_ |
Yes and also, considering Spain was already in lockdown, are they unable to make a decision themselves on whether to attend the game or not? |
I assumed a virus spread outside of football stadiums and if someone from Spain passed it on to a local either in or out of the stadium that local could pass it on to someone with no interest in football who’d been nowhere near the stadium |  |
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| Scousers at it again on 15:25 - Jun 1 with 2221 views | Boris_ |
| Scousers at it again on 15:05 - Jun 1 by RednWight |
I assumed a virus spread outside of football stadiums and if someone from Spain passed it on to a local either in or out of the stadium that local could pass it on to someone with no interest in football who’d been nowhere near the stadium |
How would an enquiry prove that?
Also, this was about 'Justice for Dad' and looking to blame the government for his fathers death from Coronavirus despite:
1) No proof whatsoever that him ( or anyone else for that matter ) caught Coronavirus from Madrid fans.
2) His father being grown up enough to make a decision for himself whether he felt it was safe enough to go to football. | |
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| Scousers at it again on 17:44 - Jun 1 with 2137 views | RednWight |
| Scousers at it again on 15:25 - Jun 1 by Boris_ |
How would an enquiry prove that?
Also, this was about 'Justice for Dad' and looking to blame the government for his fathers death from Coronavirus despite:
1) No proof whatsoever that him ( or anyone else for that matter ) caught Coronavirus from Madrid fans.
2) His father being grown up enough to make a decision for himself whether he felt it was safe enough to go to football. |
I wasn’t suggesting an enquiry
I was speculating that if the virus came from a Spaniard on a trip to football it could have been all over the place and this unfortunate person might have caught it from a barman, taxi driver ,or anyone else who said Spaniard had been in touch with [Post edited 1 Jun 2020 18:22]
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| Scousers at it again on 10:00 - Jun 2 with 1875 views | saint68 |
They've been playing the victim card on this for over 2 months, had they of won it wouldn't be an issue. | |
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| Scousers at it again on 12:44 - Jun 2 with 1800 views | SaintNick |
| Scousers at it again on 10:00 - Jun 2 by saint68 |
They've been playing the victim card on this for over 2 months, had they of won it wouldn't be an issue. |
So one family who have lost a loved one to Covid 19 are playing the victim card and represent all scousers whether red or blue.
I cannot believe that if Liverpool had won this family would have been saying never mind at least we have the Champions league to look forward to and a spare ticket available.
Some people on here look for everything bad in Scousers, it's become an obsession |  |
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| Scousers at it again on 12:46 - Jun 2 with 1798 views | Boris_ |
| Scousers at it again on 12:44 - Jun 2 by SaintNick |
So one family who have lost a loved one to Covid 19 are playing the victim card and represent all scousers whether red or blue.
I cannot believe that if Liverpool had won this family would have been saying never mind at least we have the Champions league to look forward to and a spare ticket available.
Some people on here look for everything bad in Scousers, it's become an obsession |
I haven't see a news article of anyone at Cheltenham Festival blaming the government for allowing them to attend? | |
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| Scousers at it again on 09:05 - Jun 3 with 1627 views | Boris_ |
Catching a virus off someone else who went to Cheltenham is not the same as CHOOSING to put yourself at risk by attending a football match and then blaming other people when it goes wrong, is it? | |
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| Scousers at it again on 09:12 - Jun 3 with 1617 views | JaySaint |
I understand the grief the family are going through but come on.
Its like they are angry the match went ahead, which they had to attend and be put at risk.
Rather than, the match went ahead, they chose to attend (was on TV) and knew the potential risks around a large gathering like that | |
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| Scousers at it again on 09:13 - Jun 3 with 1617 views | Sadoldgit |
The simple fact is that our lockdown should have been implemented sooner and that football match and Cheltenham should not have gone ahead. Any one of us would have been unhappy if any of our loved ones had attended one of these events, caught the virus and died. Have a bit of respect for those who have lost people to this awful virus and keep on mind the number of people who could well still be alive if our government had acted sooner. |  | | |
| Scousers at it again on 09:20 - Jun 3 with 1605 views | SaintNick |
| Scousers at it again on 09:13 - Jun 3 by Sadoldgit |
The simple fact is that our lockdown should have been implemented sooner and that football match and Cheltenham should not have gone ahead. Any one of us would have been unhappy if any of our loved ones had attended one of these events, caught the virus and died. Have a bit of respect for those who have lost people to this awful virus and keep on mind the number of people who could well still be alive if our government had acted sooner. |
One question though , it is estimated 30,000 Irishmen travelled over to Cheltenham, so why have they got the low levels of infection they were not locked down till a week after us. | |
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| Scousers at it again on 09:23 - Jun 3 with 1597 views | Boris_ |
| Scousers at it again on 09:20 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
One question though , it is estimated 30,000 Irishmen travelled over to Cheltenham, so why have they got the low levels of infection they were not locked down till a week after us. |
Correct. So why do Scousers think that 3000 Spanish, of which only a handful would have been infected, would have spread the virus around Anfield like wildfire? | |
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| Scousers at it again on 09:39 - Jun 3 with 1582 views | SaintNick |
| Scousers at it again on 09:23 - Jun 3 by Boris_ |
Correct. So why do Scousers think that 3000 Spanish, of which only a handful would have been infected, would have spread the virus around Anfield like wildfire? |
By Scousers you mean one specific family | |
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| Scousers at it again on 09:53 - Jun 3 with 1568 views | Sadoldgit |
| Scousers at it again on 09:20 - Jun 3 by SaintNick |
One question though , it is estimated 30,000 Irishmen travelled over to Cheltenham, so why have they got the low levels of infection they were not locked down till a week after us. |
Some 150,000 people attended the event and experts claim that the festival helped spread the virus. The local death rate more than doubled soon after the festival which many attribute to the spreading of the virus at the festival. You seem to have a problem with labelling people from certain parts of the country and the world. You do understand that we are all human beings, we are all capable of catching the virus and of dying if it? You seem to think that we are a bunch of wusses and that the virus is no big deal. Did you watch the programme about the outbreak in New York the other night? Did you see the vans lined up outside the funeral parlour full of bodies? Ok, it hasn’t effected you or your loved ones, but it has effected millions around the world, so maybe show a bit of humility and tone it down a bit? | | | |
| Scousers at it again on 10:27 - Jun 3 with 1559 views | Bison |
| Scousers at it again on 09:53 - Jun 3 by Sadoldgit |
Some 150,000 people attended the event and experts claim that the festival helped spread the virus. The local death rate more than doubled soon after the festival which many attribute to the spreading of the virus at the festival. You seem to have a problem with labelling people from certain parts of the country and the world. You do understand that we are all human beings, we are all capable of catching the virus and of dying if it? You seem to think that we are a bunch of wusses and that the virus is no big deal. Did you watch the programme about the outbreak in New York the other night? Did you see the vans lined up outside the funeral parlour full of bodies? Ok, it hasn’t effected you or your loved ones, but it has effected millions around the world, so maybe show a bit of humility and tone it down a bit? |
Have you seen all these demonstrations and riot stuff in America , I believe they are planning demos in this country as well. When they start spreading it around due to the large gatherings will they blame the government ?
Everybody has a duty of self responsibility , I would of gone to Cheltenham still in retrospect but the horse went lame and was withdrawn . I must admit I wouldn't of bothered going to Anfield but for different reasons ! |  |
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| Scousers at it again on 11:44 - Jun 3 with 1514 views | Sadoldgit |
I don’t condone the riots but it is one thing being killed by a pandemic, another by a law enforcement officer. I can understand why people have taken to the streets I’m anger. How many more blacks people have to die in this way before it is properly addressed? Are these gatherings as likely as causing a second wave as opening up the schools and lifting the lockdown rules? Who knows? If I went on a protest march in these circumstances snd caught the virus, I wouldn’t blame the government. Given that the government had felt it was ok for Cheltenham to go ahead, if I had gone and had contracted the virus, yes I would blame them for that. | | | |
| Scousers at it again on 11:46 - Jun 3 with 1513 views | Boris_ |
| Scousers at it again on 11:44 - Jun 3 by Sadoldgit |
I don’t condone the riots but it is one thing being killed by a pandemic, another by a law enforcement officer. I can understand why people have taken to the streets I’m anger. How many more blacks people have to die in this way before it is properly addressed? Are these gatherings as likely as causing a second wave as opening up the schools and lifting the lockdown rules? Who knows? If I went on a protest march in these circumstances snd caught the virus, I wouldn’t blame the government. Given that the government had felt it was ok for Cheltenham to go ahead, if I had gone and had contracted the virus, yes I would blame them for that. |
You're f*cking mental, mush. | |
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| Scousers at it again on 11:52 - Jun 3 with 1509 views | Sadoldgit |
| Scousers at it again on 11:46 - Jun 3 by Boris_ |
You're f*cking mental, mush. |
Ok, we all know you are very good at throwing insults around. Perhaps try a grown up approach and explain why you have a problem with my post? | | | |
| Scousers at it again on 11:56 - Jun 3 with 1503 views | Sadoldgit |
| Scousers at it again on 13:29 - Jun 1 by Boris_ |
Yes and also, considering Spain was already in lockdown, are they unable to make a decision themselves on whether to attend the game or not? |
Of course people can make a decision for themselves based on the information they have at the time. Our government deemed that is was safe for the game to go ahead so many people would have decided to go based on that. Wasn’t a great decision though in retrospect was it. If the government had said the match is on but you might get the virus and you might die, but it is totally your call, maybe more people would have stayed at home? | | | |
| Scousers at it again on 12:01 - Jun 3 with 1496 views | Bison |
| Scousers at it again on 11:56 - Jun 3 by Sadoldgit |
Of course people can make a decision for themselves based on the information they have at the time. Our government deemed that is was safe for the game to go ahead so many people would have decided to go based on that. Wasn’t a great decision though in retrospect was it. If the government had said the match is on but you might get the virus and you might die, but it is totally your call, maybe more people would have stayed at home? |
Could the mayor of Liverpool of stopped the game , i.e. Saying he won't police it ?
When he suggested the season should be scrapped he got this response from the locals.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/30/liverpool-upset-by-mayor-call-t | |
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| Scousers at it again on 12:02 - Jun 3 with 1494 views | JaySaint |
| Scousers at it again on 11:44 - Jun 3 by Sadoldgit |
I don’t condone the riots but it is one thing being killed by a pandemic, another by a law enforcement officer. I can understand why people have taken to the streets I’m anger. How many more blacks people have to die in this way before it is properly addressed? Are these gatherings as likely as causing a second wave as opening up the schools and lifting the lockdown rules? Who knows? If I went on a protest march in these circumstances snd caught the virus, I wouldn’t blame the government. Given that the government had felt it was ok for Cheltenham to go ahead, if I had gone and had contracted the virus, yes I would blame them for that. |
why is it about black lives, when significantly more white people are killed in America
and the biggest killer of black people (in america) is....err, black people! | |
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