SPOTY 11:23 - Dec 13 with 1005 views | saint901 | Have been announced. Tom Daley Tyson Fury Adam Peatty Raducanu Raheem Sterling Sarah Storey Can't say I'm excited by the list - esp Sterling who these days struggles to get first team minutes. | | | | |
SPOTY on 12:53 - Dec 13 with 957 views | ExBaselSaint | Shame Louise Hamilton isn't there. I haven't had enough of his Woke buffoonery yet | | | |
SPOTY on 14:07 - Dec 13 with 923 views | saint901 | It's also about "personality". Ms Raducanu has done very well indeed in winning her tournament but she's a teenager. Given that she's probably been playing tennis every waking moment since she could hold a racket, not sure that her "personality" has yet had a chance to grow and develop? I think that one is a nod to the middle classes. | | | |
SPOTY on 14:26 - Dec 13 with 896 views | DorsetIan |
SPOTY on 14:07 - Dec 13 by saint901 | It's also about "personality". Ms Raducanu has done very well indeed in winning her tournament but she's a teenager. Given that she's probably been playing tennis every waking moment since she could hold a racket, not sure that her "personality" has yet had a chance to grow and develop? I think that one is a nod to the middle classes. |
Got to disagree with you there. For me, her winning the US Open was the stand out sporting achievement of the year, by a distance. | |
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SPOTY on 14:30 - Dec 13 with 893 views | City_boy |
SPOTY on 14:07 - Dec 13 by saint901 | It's also about "personality". Ms Raducanu has done very well indeed in winning her tournament but she's a teenager. Given that she's probably been playing tennis every waking moment since she could hold a racket, not sure that her "personality" has yet had a chance to grow and develop? I think that one is a nod to the middle classes. |
Fair point, but what she achieved was unbelievable at that level and being ranked 300+ at the start of US Open. She also comes across as very level headed and grounded. | | | |
SPOTY on 14:56 - Dec 13 with 880 views | saint901 | Agree with all the above and whilst tennis does not hold my interest, she achieved a remarkable result. The competition is not though about a sporting achievement or at least not a single achievement. Clue is in the name "personality". To me this says that being good at the sport or winning a one off trophy is not enough. Winning multiple times (Daley, Peatty, Storey) = tick Using your position to try and highlight issues highlight issues (Sterling, Daley) = tick (I know very little about Fury so con't really include him). Ms Raducanu has done a remarkable thing but for me that's not the point. | | | |
SPOTY on 15:40 - Dec 13 with 857 views | JaySaint | Sterling? why? | |
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SPOTY on 15:50 - Dec 13 with 851 views | DorsetIan |
SPOTY on 14:56 - Dec 13 by saint901 | Agree with all the above and whilst tennis does not hold my interest, she achieved a remarkable result. The competition is not though about a sporting achievement or at least not a single achievement. Clue is in the name "personality". To me this says that being good at the sport or winning a one off trophy is not enough. Winning multiple times (Daley, Peatty, Storey) = tick Using your position to try and highlight issues highlight issues (Sterling, Daley) = tick (I know very little about Fury so con't really include him). Ms Raducanu has done a remarkable thing but for me that's not the point. |
If it was truly a 'personality' award, quite a few have slipped through the net over the years... Steve Davis, Mansell, Damon Hill, Greg Rusedski (ffs!!), Michael Owen (wtf?!)... | |
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SPOTY on 17:04 - Dec 13 with 807 views | hedgeend61 |
SPOTY on 15:50 - Dec 13 by DorsetIan | If it was truly a 'personality' award, quite a few have slipped through the net over the years... Steve Davis, Mansell, Damon Hill, Greg Rusedski (ffs!!), Michael Owen (wtf?!)... |
Since Gazza won 31 years ago not many personalities have, you could easy count them on one hand. How Giggs won in 2009, and Farrah in a non Olympic year in 2017 defies logic, personality and achievement in those years. Bit of a mess really, Raducanu this year is 1/20 to win, a near certainty. Tyson won't be happy https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-threatens-bbc-legal-action-20 | | | | Login to get fewer ads
SPOTY on 17:53 - Dec 13 with 784 views | kingslandstand1 | I think it will be between the 2 girlies. Raducanu as has been said, had quite an amazing achievement with the progress she made over the year (and comes across as an actual "personality") with that ultimate prize, and Sarah Storey has now got more Paralympic medals than anyone else (I believe) Fury probably pi55ed them all off with what he did last year, and the others are probably coming off the bottom of the barrel to make the numbers up. Although Peaty did do pretty well with his medal haul, didn't he then do one of those reality programmes which was not exactly in the sporting calendar? | | | |
SPOTY on 18:01 - Dec 13 with 773 views | saint901 |
SPOTY on 15:40 - Dec 13 by JaySaint | Sterling? why? |
Sterling has used his fame to speak out about racism and issue around that in the game and elsewhere. Because he is moderately good at football a lot of black kids will look at him and think that "if he can do and say that, so can I" and frankly that will be far more useful than taking a knee or the various (largely failed) Premier League campaigns. Daley has done the same for the gay community. Sarah Storey for the "disabled" community. Adam Peatty for me is an example of a driven athlete. He was no doubt talented in his chosen field but he has worked hard at that talent and is a multiple world record holder and Olympic champion. (He can't dance but being vertical was a problem). That leaves Tyson who I know little about other than he is a boxer and a champion and seems to play his part in the "trash talking" that is apparently a necessary part of all big fight build up. The Olympians in the list have over 100 Olympic, Commonwealth and World Championship medals between them. Sterling has surely got EPL Championship medals ans well as cup medals. Tyson is multiple world champion (?) I absolutely understand why Raducanu is on the list. Young woman at the start of what we all hope is a glittering career whose work and commitment resulted in an entirely unexpected but very welcome win in a global tournament. My point however is that against the equally glittering and medal laden others in the list with achievements or recognition outside their chosen sport, should she win? I will not begrudge her a victory but would be happier to see one of the others win. And as the people above say, personality is often not the criteria used to judge this competition and the BBC has let itself down on numerous instances. | | | |
SPOTY on 19:12 - Dec 13 with 738 views | DorsetIan |
SPOTY on 18:01 - Dec 13 by saint901 | Sterling has used his fame to speak out about racism and issue around that in the game and elsewhere. Because he is moderately good at football a lot of black kids will look at him and think that "if he can do and say that, so can I" and frankly that will be far more useful than taking a knee or the various (largely failed) Premier League campaigns. Daley has done the same for the gay community. Sarah Storey for the "disabled" community. Adam Peatty for me is an example of a driven athlete. He was no doubt talented in his chosen field but he has worked hard at that talent and is a multiple world record holder and Olympic champion. (He can't dance but being vertical was a problem). That leaves Tyson who I know little about other than he is a boxer and a champion and seems to play his part in the "trash talking" that is apparently a necessary part of all big fight build up. The Olympians in the list have over 100 Olympic, Commonwealth and World Championship medals between them. Sterling has surely got EPL Championship medals ans well as cup medals. Tyson is multiple world champion (?) I absolutely understand why Raducanu is on the list. Young woman at the start of what we all hope is a glittering career whose work and commitment resulted in an entirely unexpected but very welcome win in a global tournament. My point however is that against the equally glittering and medal laden others in the list with achievements or recognition outside their chosen sport, should she win? I will not begrudge her a victory but would be happier to see one of the others win. And as the people above say, personality is often not the criteria used to judge this competition and the BBC has let itself down on numerous instances. |
I think she should win, yes. She won the US Open as a qualifier without dropping a set. No disrespect to the achievements of the others, but hers was extraordinary. And she did it with a smile on her face throughout. | |
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