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Be part of history, the biggest ever protest in Southampton.
Highfield hotel 1pm and then it will be eirther a march to hoglands park or the common for speeches inc some special guests.
~~ update Sat 25th"""
The meeting point is highfield hotel / portswood at 1pm and moving at 1.30pm. Due to a number of complaints from labour councillors and trade unions., who have both done all they can to ban the march (just like all the previous protests outside the hotel). The shortest route was blocked (bevois valley/onslow). The back up route was also blocked via Winn road and down the avenue. SO its now going down st denys road along thomas lewis way (traffic will be diverted up to portswood) then along lodge road and down the avenue to hoglands park.
This is likely to be a total 'one off' march due to new incoming government legiislation and the fact we have left / far left labour councillors and their trade union boot boys. Who have supported the uncontrolled immigration into this country. But sitting on top of all that is the financial costs involved for the police.
No alcohol or provactive behaviour wanted, dont come for that.
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Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 00:19 - Oct 24 with 1598 views
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 00:04 - Oct 24 by franniesTache
The pr*cks with money are the people who get the most benefit from dividing us. The political classes, the owners of media and social media, the large shareholders and those who benefit from running the social services down to privatise them.
I guarantee we’re more at risk from losing our jobs because shareholders aren’t making money than we are anything else, and they’re the biggest problem I see right now
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Yep, but all I know is there's a lot of problems right now. The NHS is on its knees, a 50 billion black hole apparently, everyone is expecting welfare to be cut in the next budget, the high streets are boarded up, homeless on the streets, mental health at crisis levels. Shareholders yes, but I also don't think footballers need 200k a week, think what a small percentage of that would do for a homeless person but we all keep buying football tickets and sky etc.
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 00:19 - Oct 24 by Southamptonfan
Yep, but all I know is there's a lot of problems right now. The NHS is on its knees, a 50 billion black hole apparently, everyone is expecting welfare to be cut in the next budget, the high streets are boarded up, homeless on the streets, mental health at crisis levels. Shareholders yes, but I also don't think footballers need 200k a week, think what a small percentage of that would do for a homeless person but we all keep buying football tickets and sky etc.
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And is that the fault of people Fleeing war torn countries Or the fault of 12 years of Tory self serving rule?
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Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 07:15 - Oct 24 with 1478 views
I do get lost on some of the replies, so for one final time, this is about uncontrolled immigration and clealy thats over 'recent years'. Immigration done the right way is great, but that clearly hasnt been happening in this country. The country does not have the infrasctrure for whats happening. The crime associated with fake refugees is unbelieable and shameful that anyone would continue to stick up for them. Let me remind you a couple of months back an asylum seeker tried to murder three people in bevois valley on a knife rampage. Look at the state of bournemouth, sex crime is off the scale since they started housing migrants.
Anyway peace and love, thanks to those that want to actually help this country.
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Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 10:26 - Oct 24 with 1340 views
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 10:21 - Oct 24 by UTS1885
I do get lost on some of the replies, so for one final time, this is about uncontrolled immigration and clealy thats over 'recent years'. Immigration done the right way is great, but that clearly hasnt been happening in this country. The country does not have the infrasctrure for whats happening. The crime associated with fake refugees is unbelieable and shameful that anyone would continue to stick up for them. Let me remind you a couple of months back an asylum seeker tried to murder three people in bevois valley on a knife rampage. Look at the state of bournemouth, sex crime is off the scale since they started housing migrants.
Anyway peace and love, thanks to those that want to actually help this country.
It’s beyond help I’m afraid.
We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong.
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 10:21 - Oct 24 by UTS1885
I do get lost on some of the replies, so for one final time, this is about uncontrolled immigration and clealy thats over 'recent years'. Immigration done the right way is great, but that clearly hasnt been happening in this country. The country does not have the infrasctrure for whats happening. The crime associated with fake refugees is unbelieable and shameful that anyone would continue to stick up for them. Let me remind you a couple of months back an asylum seeker tried to murder three people in bevois valley on a knife rampage. Look at the state of bournemouth, sex crime is off the scale since they started housing migrants.
Anyway peace and love, thanks to those that want to actually help this country.
I don't really like to get involved in political stuff as most people are blinkered and polarised in their views and refuse to accept being wrong on certain subjects as they prefer to virtue signal etc.
In this case I agree with what you say. There i no question the people coming in on boats illegally are creating issues we can not afford to ignore. Then you get some who clearly do not grasp the issue and say things such as 'these people are fleeing war torn countries.' They are NOT. They are coming from France where they are safe. Yes, we have an agreement with Europe to take our fair share, but those fair share people do NOT come in on illegal boats. they come in through proper channels. (pardon the pun)
As I said to another poster on here who will not accept the issue, are we putting our people at MORE risk or LESS risk by allowing unchecked men in? Clearly we are creating a higher risk, hence many of them being arrested for a range of crimes. Anyone who thinks this is acceptable needs to wobble the old head a bit. A governments first duty is to THEIR people, to protect them and use their taxes in a good and proper way. This is not being done at this time, neither was it done well by the Tory's prior.
Something needs to be done an it needs to be fast, else the damage will be too great and there will be no way back.
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Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 10:55 - Oct 24 with 1303 views
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 03:25 - Oct 24 by saint22
And is that the fault of people Fleeing war torn countries Or the fault of 12 years of Tory self serving rule?
France is not a war torn country. They should not be risking their lives and the lives of children by squashing onto a dinghy, when they are perfectly safe in France and safe in the other European countries they have travelled through. We should take our fair share of genuine people at risk of harm, but it should be through safe and controlled routes. It should also be confirmed that it's genuine, as some are not, for example, an Afghan man came here by dinghy, was given asylum, only to then go back to Afghanistan on holiday. That is taking the p!ss. It needs to be sorted. Denial of this problem and a stubborn refusal to accept that this is a problem, will end up with a Reform government.
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 10:40 - Oct 24 by jopreston
I don't really like to get involved in political stuff as most people are blinkered and polarised in their views and refuse to accept being wrong on certain subjects as they prefer to virtue signal etc.
In this case I agree with what you say. There i no question the people coming in on boats illegally are creating issues we can not afford to ignore. Then you get some who clearly do not grasp the issue and say things such as 'these people are fleeing war torn countries.' They are NOT. They are coming from France where they are safe. Yes, we have an agreement with Europe to take our fair share, but those fair share people do NOT come in on illegal boats. they come in through proper channels. (pardon the pun)
As I said to another poster on here who will not accept the issue, are we putting our people at MORE risk or LESS risk by allowing unchecked men in? Clearly we are creating a higher risk, hence many of them being arrested for a range of crimes. Anyone who thinks this is acceptable needs to wobble the old head a bit. A governments first duty is to THEIR people, to protect them and use their taxes in a good and proper way. This is not being done at this time, neither was it done well by the Tory's prior.
Something needs to be done an it needs to be fast, else the damage will be too great and there will be no way back.
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 10:55 - Oct 24 by Southamptonfan
France is not a war torn country. They should not be risking their lives and the lives of children by squashing onto a dinghy, when they are perfectly safe in France and safe in the other European countries they have travelled through. We should take our fair share of genuine people at risk of harm, but it should be through safe and controlled routes. It should also be confirmed that it's genuine, as some are not, for example, an Afghan man came here by dinghy, was given asylum, only to then go back to Afghanistan on holiday. That is taking the p!ss. It needs to be sorted. Denial of this problem and a stubborn refusal to accept that this is a problem, will end up with a Reform government.
Nail on the head and exactly why this board should be free to discuss issues other than football from time to time. Let's face it sometimes we can get a belly full of football especially at the moment when things aren't going well.
70% average are against unfettered immigration and it's disastrous for community cohesion, even established immigrants the 60s and 70s are against it. When Sikh and Muslim communities in Birmingham and Leicester are clashing you know its not working.
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Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 12:33 - Oct 24 with 1212 views
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 15:21 - Oct 23 by Southamptonfan
You have to accept that other people have different views and opinions. To stop people saying their views because we don't agree, won't stop them thinking it and it won't stop them living amongst us. If threads like this get instantly banned, people with controversial views would just go underground, it won't take these people away.
Allow people to express themselves, agree, disagree, discuss or simply ignore. If people have views, we can't ever change minds if we don't discuss with them to try to change their mind. Everyone has a right to express their views, whether we like them or not. We live in a democracy or should be.
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But why should we change peoples views. The whole point of democracy is to share views and if people disagree with those views so be it I know mine are definitely different to quite a few on here and that won't change as my circumstances may be different to others, but I don't have a problem with that. It's when it gets to personal name calling and intimidating viewpoints that I don't like Name calling and negative views of those running the country and dictating how the country is run which do affect us is different, but not to a bunch of Saints supporters on a mong board
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 10:55 - Oct 24 by Southamptonfan
France is not a war torn country. They should not be risking their lives and the lives of children by squashing onto a dinghy, when they are perfectly safe in France and safe in the other European countries they have travelled through. We should take our fair share of genuine people at risk of harm, but it should be through safe and controlled routes. It should also be confirmed that it's genuine, as some are not, for example, an Afghan man came here by dinghy, was given asylum, only to then go back to Afghanistan on holiday. That is taking the p!ss. It needs to be sorted. Denial of this problem and a stubborn refusal to accept that this is a problem, will end up with a Reform government.
I thought the rule for asylum seekers fleeing their country for the obvious and just ified reasons was that they stop at the first "safe" country The reason they all want to come here is that we are an open country who will give them bed, board nd a bunk up if they want it no doubt
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 12:48 - Oct 24 by kingslandstand1
I thought the rule for asylum seekers fleeing their country for the obvious and just ified reasons was that they stop at the first "safe" country The reason they all want to come here is that we are an open country who will give them bed, board nd a bunk up if they want it no doubt
That rule is an EU rule not an international one i believe, and is only an agreement between EU nations.
There is no rule in international law about where a person has to claim asylum, just that once they arrive in a country and claim asylum it must be processed
It's also incredibly nuanced and hard to prove what a "safe country" is. Most people assume safe means not in a war, no ethnic cleansing, no negative impacts base don protected characteristics.
But then you get outlier things like refugees who are forced into modern slavery in countries like France by the gangs that smuggle them which could very much meet the criteria of an unsafe country.
Bsically the short of it is this sh*t is really f*cking hard and anyone promising a simple solution is lying to you
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Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 13:06 - Oct 24 with 1147 views
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 10:40 - Oct 24 by jopreston
I don't really like to get involved in political stuff as most people are blinkered and polarised in their views and refuse to accept being wrong on certain subjects as they prefer to virtue signal etc.
In this case I agree with what you say. There i no question the people coming in on boats illegally are creating issues we can not afford to ignore. Then you get some who clearly do not grasp the issue and say things such as 'these people are fleeing war torn countries.' They are NOT. They are coming from France where they are safe. Yes, we have an agreement with Europe to take our fair share, but those fair share people do NOT come in on illegal boats. they come in through proper channels. (pardon the pun)
As I said to another poster on here who will not accept the issue, are we putting our people at MORE risk or LESS risk by allowing unchecked men in? Clearly we are creating a higher risk, hence many of them being arrested for a range of crimes. Anyone who thinks this is acceptable needs to wobble the old head a bit. A governments first duty is to THEIR people, to protect them and use their taxes in a good and proper way. This is not being done at this time, neither was it done well by the Tory's prior.
Something needs to be done an it needs to be fast, else the damage will be too great and there will be no way back.
Exactly, but it doesn't help when you have a Human Rights lawyer running the country. Or was that just a job for him and he didn't necessarily believe in what he was trying to defend?
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 13:00 - Oct 24 by franniesTache
That rule is an EU rule not an international one i believe, and is only an agreement between EU nations.
There is no rule in international law about where a person has to claim asylum, just that once they arrive in a country and claim asylum it must be processed
It's also incredibly nuanced and hard to prove what a "safe country" is. Most people assume safe means not in a war, no ethnic cleansing, no negative impacts base don protected characteristics.
But then you get outlier things like refugees who are forced into modern slavery in countries like France by the gangs that smuggle them which could very much meet the criteria of an unsafe country.
Bsically the short of it is this sh*t is really f*cking hard and anyone promising a simple solution is lying to you
Yes, and as someone has already said on here, the country is Fkd right now (or similar), and no matter what the politicians say (smash the gangs etc), it ain't gonna be easy
Dear oh dear. This country is pathetic isn't it. Accidentally released? Seriously! This sort of thing is what is causing such anger in this country. Another woman was also murdered by an asylum seeker. All in the news today. It's not acceptable is it. How can anyone say that unknown people who come over to abuse and murder, doesn't need sorting? People have a right to be protected.
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 22:55 - Oct 23 by franniesTache
The whole thing is f*cking ludicrous in Southampton of all places, I’d take a guess most people on this board have at least one family member who’s not English, and more of the nippers I grew up with in the city than not had at least one parent who was an immigrant.
We’re the gateway to the world ffs, our city is built on immigration, we have a french quarter and bevois valley. The windrush sister ship landed in our city, polish pilots who fly in the raf moved here, we’ve had Asian families as part of us all my life and there a reason I could swear in Punjabi before I got to secondary school.
Leave the closed door ideas to the skates, we’re Southampton not them
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I’m not so sure you really understood title. With respect to your point regarding immigration, this is about illegal immigration. The fact is nobody is protesting about legal immigrants coming into our society, contributing to our economy and being respectful to our customs and laws. Infact I welcome that! I am protesting about illegal immigrants not contributing to our society, not respecting our customs and laws, raping and killing children. Would you let your kids walk into one of these hotels? I think not! and it’s only gonna get worse. Enough is enough!
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Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 09:17 - Oct 25 with 743 views
Join us At highfield hotel on Sunday for uncontrolled immigration protest march on 12:48 - Oct 24 by kingslandstand1
I thought the rule for asylum seekers fleeing their country for the obvious and just ified reasons was that they stop at the first "safe" country The reason they all want to come here is that we are an open country who will give them bed, board nd a bunk up if they want it no doubt
No, they come here because they can communicate. They speak English. Try making yourself understood here in France without the language.
Having worked in countries throughout the Islamic world, I know why all these young, single men target England, Sweden and the USA in particular. They are not interested in going to more conservative countries. I asked a group of young Arab soldiers who were about to go for training in the USA, what they were looking forward to there. There was only one answer and it wasn't safety or money.
To be honest, if you were a young single man and lived in a country where that was unavailable to you, you might do the same.
9 out of 10 of the immigrants arriving in small boats are single men, mostly between the ages of 18 and 39. If we accepted married couples, female refugees and males below the age of 12 or above the age of 65, we might get genuine refugees who really need safe asylum here. But, the overall number coming in would be drastically reduced. There would be so few, in fact, that the small boat smugglers would go out of business.
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