| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday 17:22 - Oct 31 with 34383 views | YouTubeDale |
Just noticed that York have recalled goalkeeper Rory Watson loaned out to Scunthorpe. He played in their last game beating Aldershot.
Interesting that Scunthorpe play in the FA Cup tomorrow away to Blackpool. We should be rested more perhaps giving us an edge.
Every little helps. [Post edited 31 Oct 17:23]
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 14:38 - Nov 4 with 3057 views | Dale_4_Life |
Game Off.
Waterlogged pitch.
Something dramatic will have to happen and quickly.. just cannot have the prospect of 4 months worth of games called off whenever it rains.
This is a massive task for the Club to remedy. |  | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 14:52 - Nov 4 with 2925 views | dingdangblue |
They've posted a pic on Facebook with a big puddle on the pitch. It's not rained hardly since 10 (I've been told). How has it passed inspection at 10 with a puddle on the pitch? How are puddles forming underneath the protective (non protective) covers? They said they were working on the problem areas? In 4 hours they've not mopped/soaked up a massive puddle?
Then there is the 2 statements. This morning's said they couldn't call the game off on the strength of the weather forecast and this afternoon's statement says they've called if off because of the weather forecast? [Post edited 4 Nov 15:17]
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:06 - Nov 4 with 2800 views | MAK |
Just when you're hoping for a positive outcome, it all goes wrong. This really does flag up problems that need sorting by the club very quickly. I have no idea what the solutions are.
From the club's own update yesterday, the covers went down on Sunday. Yes, we've had rain most days recently, but the only rainfall of any note fell early Saturday morning and even that amounted to less than half an inch. Any other rain with the covers down has been mostly light with the odd heavy burst blowing through pretty quickly. Certainly not enough to escape from the covers onto the pitch.
In effect we've had a bit of rain 3 1/2 days prior to a match, and not managed to get it on. How does that work for the next 4 months, when if anything, the background conditions will only deteriorate?
At least it looks drier for the next home games, but will that be enough?
Some very radical solutions are needed, and needed fast. | | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:09 - Nov 4 with 2776 views | DaleFan7 |
We're going to have to start looking for solutions away from our ground until the pitch can be fully dealt with. The rain we've had this weekend wasnt that severe and its not been consistent all weekend and the game is still off. We can't go through a winter of this with a pitch that isn't fit for purpose. | | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:38 - Nov 4 with 2616 views | Trev |
Feel for Jim and the squad, need to be near perfect to get automatic promotion out of this league and the pitch is going to be a huge factor in that. | | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:43 - Nov 4 with 2601 views | rafc1977 |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:09 - Nov 4 by DaleFan7 |
We're going to have to start looking for solutions away from our ground until the pitch can be fully dealt with. The rain we've had this weekend wasnt that severe and its not been consistent all weekend and the game is still off. We can't go through a winter of this with a pitch that isn't fit for purpose. |
I posted yesterday that it appears to me that the only way of salvaging this season and the excellent start we have made is to move grounds. Yes it wont be San Spotty, but our away from home performances and points tally has been more than decent that we should be ok.
Surely the League have to be asking questions, If I was a NL club official from any team due to play us between now and say March I would be raising concerns, and rightly so.
Then we have our fellow fans, postponements (especially late, last minute) causes ill feeling, we get a reputation for postponing games so away fans may well think 'I'm not going up there for the game to be called off' this loses us money.
Just my opinion, but stop wasting money on this remedial machinery, whatever was mentioned yesterday and do the only sensible thing left and that is move our home games to another venue. This cannot continue as is. |  | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:58 - Nov 4 with 2520 views | dingdangblue |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:43 - Nov 4 by rafc1977 |
I posted yesterday that it appears to me that the only way of salvaging this season and the excellent start we have made is to move grounds. Yes it wont be San Spotty, but our away from home performances and points tally has been more than decent that we should be ok.
Surely the League have to be asking questions, If I was a NL club official from any team due to play us between now and say March I would be raising concerns, and rightly so.
Then we have our fellow fans, postponements (especially late, last minute) causes ill feeling, we get a reputation for postponing games so away fans may well think 'I'm not going up there for the game to be called off' this loses us money.
Just my opinion, but stop wasting money on this remedial machinery, whatever was mentioned yesterday and do the only sensible thing left and that is move our home games to another venue. This cannot continue as is. |
Don't really want to play on a plastic pitch so I'd rule out hiring Gigg Lane. What about Man City's mini stadium next to the Etihad? Think it holds around 5000? Maybe Whatmuff could put in a word for us? | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:05 - Nov 4 with 2480 views | dannyuk |
Start digging it up now and by the time we can get a game on, a new one might be down.
(I'm just having an over-dramatic moment) |  | | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:08 - Nov 4 with 2444 views | EllDale |
Obviously disappointed but better than finding out a game was off at 6.00pm in the Ratcliffe (eg Boston last season) or whilst walking down Spotland Rd in a torrential downpour like the other Saturday against Southend.
One downside is that we could be fourth in the table come Thursday morning.
I’ve seen this issue about incorrect pitch maintenance in the past following major improvement works; if correct then it’s been a major error of false economy and probably means no means of chasing repairs under warranty.
If the ultimate solution is to play matches at another ground then please let’s try and use the same alternative ground. Extremely inconvenient and raising other logistic and contractual issues as well with sponsors etc. Let’s not become nomads.
I remember when Halifax had similar problems a couple of years ago and ended up playing a home game against Oldham at Chesterfield. | | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:09 - Nov 4 with 2431 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:58 - Nov 4 by dingdangblue |
Don't really want to play on a plastic pitch so I'd rule out hiring Gigg Lane. What about Man City's mini stadium next to the Etihad? Think it holds around 5000? Maybe Whatmuff could put in a word for us? |
Just about to type the same..
Do City ladies play there?
The Mini Etihad first choice for me..
How about FC United?
Not Gigg for me … plastic pitch urgghhh..
Looking more and more like we need some help from a neighbour and the National League authorities.
Top of the league and can’t get home games on!! It’s a bit embarrassing so needs to be addressed as soon as the club possibly can. | | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:16 - Nov 4 with 2386 views | TVOS1907 |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:08 - Nov 4 by EllDale |
Obviously disappointed but better than finding out a game was off at 6.00pm in the Ratcliffe (eg Boston last season) or whilst walking down Spotland Rd in a torrential downpour like the other Saturday against Southend.
One downside is that we could be fourth in the table come Thursday morning.
I’ve seen this issue about incorrect pitch maintenance in the past following major improvement works; if correct then it’s been a major error of false economy and probably means no means of chasing repairs under warranty.
If the ultimate solution is to play matches at another ground then please let’s try and use the same alternative ground. Extremely inconvenient and raising other logistic and contractual issues as well with sponsors etc. Let’s not become nomads.
I remember when Halifax had similar problems a couple of years ago and ended up playing a home game against Oldham at Chesterfield. |
They had also played a home game at Accrington, but I think the Oldham game went elsewhere due to the hordes of Latics that were expected. |  |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:26 - Nov 4 with 2307 views | fitzochris |
Another issue created by this postponement is that the weekend’s rest has now become a hindrance, leaving the squad inactive until this coming Saturday. I’d imagine a bounce game of some sort will need to be arranged to restore match sharpness ahead of what promises to be a difficult away fixture.
The psychological impact of this enforced break shouldn’t be underestimated either, especially as the players watch their hard-earned place at the top of the table slip away, however temporarily. |  |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:44 - Nov 4 with 2209 views | D_Alien |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 15:58 - Nov 4 by dingdangblue |
Don't really want to play on a plastic pitch so I'd rule out hiring Gigg Lane. What about Man City's mini stadium next to the Etihad? Think it holds around 5000? Maybe Whatmuff could put in a word for us? |
I'd favour the mini-Etihad solution too
It's actually easier to get there on public transport than Gigg Lane
Hope phone calls are being made right now, at least to try to secure provision |  |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:44 - Nov 4 with 2207 views | Dale_4_Life |
For all of Big Jim's fatigue concerns,
We have now played 14 league games in 14 weeks..
Match Sharpness is gold.. lets hope we have it in abundance for Boston and York. | | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:45 - Nov 4 with 2204 views | EllDale |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:16 - Nov 4 by TVOS1907 |
They had also played a home game at Accrington, but I think the Oldham game went elsewhere due to the hordes of Latics that were expected. |
That’s quite true about that Oldham fixture. They were desperate to find someone to accommodate that one in the end!
It strikes me as well that if an alternative ground was sought for games into the New Year period then several fixtures may have to be moved to a different day eg Friday night or even Sunday.
No point in proposing to play home games at somewhere like Bury if they’re already scheduled to be at home on the same weekends.
All hypothetical of course but there are plenty of obstacles to be surmounted if this course of action is pursued. | | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:50 - Nov 4 with 2166 views | TVOS1907 |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:45 - Nov 4 by EllDale |
That’s quite true about that Oldham fixture. They were desperate to find someone to accommodate that one in the end!
It strikes me as well that if an alternative ground was sought for games into the New Year period then several fixtures may have to be moved to a different day eg Friday night or even Sunday.
No point in proposing to play home games at somewhere like Bury if they’re already scheduled to be at home on the same weekends.
All hypothetical of course but there are plenty of obstacles to be surmounted if this course of action is pursued. |
I'm sure someone will be capable of checking the fixture lists! | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 17:14 - Nov 4 with 2064 views | EllDale |
I am too but it’s another major factor to consider. | | | |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 17:25 - Nov 4 with 2003 views | 442Dale |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 16:44 - Nov 4 by Dale_4_Life |
For all of Big Jim's fatigue concerns,
We have now played 14 league games in 14 weeks..
Match Sharpness is gold.. lets hope we have it in abundance for Boston and York. |
We will be out of a rhythm having not played for two weeks and there needs to be a realisation amongst everyone how much the disappointment of not playing a football match just because there’s been a bit of rain will impact the squad and management. edit: sorry, just seen Fitzo covered this.
If there is no significant movement to provide solutions to the obvious problem in the next week, then that negative feeling will only grow.
Back to a previous point, if the last week had seen no rain and we played tonight, would we have heard a word about issues with the pitch? Because the problem would still have been there. Those contingencies mentioned yesterday are yet another sticking plaster.
One other thing, while previous regimes may have made big errors that has nothing to do with where we stand today. The club makes decisions at any one moment. Of course there’s some hindsight involved, but the decisions they make now have to be swift and decisive. [Post edited 4 Nov 17:28]
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 17:34 - Nov 4 with 1949 views | D_Alien |
Do Man U have a similar facility to the mini-Etihad?
Sir Peter Ogden and Sir Jim Ratcliffe are mates, or at least know each other well | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 17:38 - Nov 4 with 1916 views | 442Dale |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 17:34 - Nov 4 by D_Alien |
Do Man U have a similar facility to the mini-Etihad?
Sir Peter Ogden and Sir Jim Ratcliffe are mates, or at least know each other well |
Their women’s team and u21s play at Leigh Sports Village. | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 18:09 - Nov 4 with 1776 views | D_Alien |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 17:38 - Nov 4 by 442Dale |
Their women’s team and u21s play at Leigh Sports Village. |
Cheers, a bit too far, the mini-Etihad option looks good if it's available
As you say, swift and decisive action needed. If the COA pitch can be sorted during the winter months (don't know how viable that is, but when we had the failed refurb prior to the Spurs tie it was February as the Beast from the East was on it's way)
Could even be ready to return to our base for the sharp end of the season [Post edited 4 Nov 18:11]
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 19:08 - Nov 4 with 1580 views | 442Dale |
Looking at the current fixtures as they stand and ignoring the fact we have to rearrange Scunthorpe for a moment, there is an almost 8 week period where we only have two home league games scheduled at present.
After 29/11 v Eastleigh
30/12 Hartlepool
3/1 Brackley
24/1 Truro
So can any significant work be done on the pitch between 30/11 and 23/1 which will ensure we can complete the rest of the season with minimal issues? If the answer to that is yes, then we would only need to play two home games (Hartlepool and Brackley) at another ground.
That 55 day window could be increased to 66 days if we played Eastleigh elsewhere too. The Everton NL Cup tie would need switching as well and we’d have to ask for away ties in the Trophy if that’s allowed. [Post edited 4 Nov 19:09]
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 19:44 - Nov 4 with 1445 views | dingdangblue |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 19:08 - Nov 4 by 442Dale |
Looking at the current fixtures as they stand and ignoring the fact we have to rearrange Scunthorpe for a moment, there is an almost 8 week period where we only have two home league games scheduled at present.
After 29/11 v Eastleigh
30/12 Hartlepool
3/1 Brackley
24/1 Truro
So can any significant work be done on the pitch between 30/11 and 23/1 which will ensure we can complete the rest of the season with minimal issues? If the answer to that is yes, then we would only need to play two home games (Hartlepool and Brackley) at another ground.
That 55 day window could be increased to 66 days if we played Eastleigh elsewhere too. The Everton NL Cup tie would need switching as well and we’d have to ask for away ties in the Trophy if that’s allowed. [Post edited 4 Nov 19:09]
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Another option would be playing Hartlepool away on 30th December and home on Mon 6th April (switching the fixtures), obviously we can't do that with Brackley. | |
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| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 19:47 - Nov 4 with 1435 views | EllDale |
| Rochdale v Scunthorpe on Tuesday on 19:44 - Nov 4 by dingdangblue |
Another option would be playing Hartlepool away on 30th December and home on Mon 6th April (switching the fixtures), obviously we can't do that with Brackley. |
The NL have already allowed a precedent with this type of swap earlier in the season with Halifax and Wealdstone. | | | |
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