| Furs leaving on 13:08 - Nov 25 with 2960 views | wombat |
| Furs leaving on 13:03 - Nov 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
Absolutely frightening to me that the members and supporters of our club have to find out from a newspaper about the departure of a respected and long-serving member of staff.
Where's the article wishing him well?
Where's the biographical piece on the website praising him for his contributions and achievements off and on the field?
Where's the basic human decency? |
we havent done anything like this for years , but as long as our fav players are playing each week thats all that matter hey ! |  |
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| Furs leaving on 13:14 - Nov 25 with 2898 views | Hunterhoop |
| Furs leaving on 13:03 - Nov 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
Absolutely frightening to me that the members and supporters of our club have to find out from a newspaper about the departure of a respected and long-serving member of staff.
Where's the article wishing him well?
Where's the biographical piece on the website praising him for his contributions and achievements off and on the field?
Where's the basic human decency? |
Very well said, Brian.
The thing I don’t get - repeatedly with our CEO - is that football is a people business and people talk. Handling employee exits is one of the most important things as a leader. Park strategy. Park org charts. Park whether this was the right call or not. Handle the process and comms around it in a dignified, professional, and above all, kind way. Because people in football talk. Good people won’t want to come to work for you if you don’t. And from a personal perspective, you never know when you might find yourself in a new role working with/for a friend of the person you sacked, or, indeed, the actual person you sacked. It reeks of naivety and arrogance.
I expect (because the club reads this MB) that we’ll see something cobbled together and on the official website later this afternoon. But it’s too late. He was rumoured to have been sacked a week ago. It’s been broken (with the club’s consent, I am sure) in WLS this morning. The first place the news should have been posted is the club’s official website with the appropriate comms in it. |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 13:15 - Nov 25 with 2872 views | connell10 |
Furs will go on to bigger and better things than Rangers, this has all the grubby fingerprints of a Nourryvirus decision. |  |
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| Furs leaving on 13:20 - Nov 25 with 2822 views | wombat |
| Furs leaving on 13:14 - Nov 25 by Hunterhoop |
Very well said, Brian.
The thing I don’t get - repeatedly with our CEO - is that football is a people business and people talk. Handling employee exits is one of the most important things as a leader. Park strategy. Park org charts. Park whether this was the right call or not. Handle the process and comms around it in a dignified, professional, and above all, kind way. Because people in football talk. Good people won’t want to come to work for you if you don’t. And from a personal perspective, you never know when you might find yourself in a new role working with/for a friend of the person you sacked, or, indeed, the actual person you sacked. It reeks of naivety and arrogance.
I expect (because the club reads this MB) that we’ll see something cobbled together and on the official website later this afternoon. But it’s too late. He was rumoured to have been sacked a week ago. It’s been broken (with the club’s consent, I am sure) in WLS this morning. The first place the news should have been posted is the club’s official website with the appropriate comms in it. |
So the club angle will be left by mutual consent as normal then ?
not sure nourry has any idea on how to react in the ways you rightly describe to be honest | |
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| Furs leaving on 13:21 - Nov 25 with 2816 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Furs leaving on 13:08 - Nov 25 by wombat |
we havent done anything like this for years , but as long as our fav players are playing each week thats all that matter hey ! |
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/january/08/chris-ramsey-departs/
Hoos, the previous CEO at least gave Chris Ramsey the respect of an article. And, with the greatest of respect to Ramsey, he's not as much a part of our history as Furs is.
It's just the right thing to do. It's also the smart thing to do.
Nourry won't last long here. This stuff is appalling. |  |
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| Furs leaving on 13:22 - Nov 25 with 2812 views | bosh67 |
Absolute legend at the club. I really hope he has other ventures to go onto because he's been a fantastic ambassador for the club and the young players coming through. |  |
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| Furs leaving on 13:35 - Nov 25 with 2724 views | dmm |
For us as supporters, Furs was more than an ex-player and staff member. He was a man who somehow embodied QPR. I'm extremely sad at his departure. It's a massive loss to our club. |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 13:35 - Nov 25 with 2719 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Furs leaving on 13:21 - Nov 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/january/08/chris-ramsey-departs/
Hoos, the previous CEO at least gave Chris Ramsey the respect of an article. And, with the greatest of respect to Ramsey, he's not as much a part of our history as Furs is.
It's just the right thing to do. It's also the smart thing to do.
Nourry won't last long here. This stuff is appalling. |
Suggests acrimony which has further ramifications for the rest of the club.
If that is the case, the list is getting longer isn't it:
- External club media being excluded
- The whole anti Cifuentes PR campaign.
- Kelman writing in a Charlton program that he was treated abysmally.
- Cook stripped of captaincy for having the temerity to ask for his contract to be honoured (then later relied on)
- Nardi imminent departure leaked then recalled when the issues with Walsh emerged then dropped again when the instability hit his confidence and form
- Kolli bullied, told to leave, then exiled, then recalled when form dipped
Now it's not my the way I'd like my club to be run from a ethical standpoint but you can argue that CN, BW, and co have done some good work (they have) and that the policy of ruthlessness are a necessary evil when results are coming in.
But they haven't been have they?
I hope the new FSA sanctioned supporter representatives are reading this are intending to ask some serious questions. [Post edited 25 Nov 13:58]
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| Furs leaving on 13:37 - Nov 25 with 2707 views | KensalT |
To me this looks like our CEO/DoF who has no real football experience is removing another old pro and surrounding himself with technocrats like Anthony Hayes who completed a Business Studies degree in 2009 and then went straight into coaching which is what he has done ever since.
Scott Marshall did at least have a playing career but it was nothing like that of Furs!
It's quite the personality cult that Nourry is building.
(Checks spelling. Near enough!)
Remove anyone with the status and authority to stand up to you or question your methods and surround yourself with yes men.
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| Furs leaving on 13:43 - Nov 25 with 2660 views | nadera78 |
| Furs leaving on 13:35 - Nov 25 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Suggests acrimony which has further ramifications for the rest of the club.
If that is the case, the list is getting longer isn't it:
- External club media being excluded
- The whole anti Cifuentes PR campaign.
- Kelman writing in a Charlton program that he was treated abysmally.
- Cook stripped of captaincy for having the temerity to ask for his contract to be honoured (then later relied on)
- Nardi imminent departure leaked then recalled when the issues with Walsh emerged then dropped again when the instability hit his confidence and form
- Kolli bullied, told to leave, then exiled, then recalled when form dipped
Now it's not my the way I'd like my club to be run from a ethical standpoint but you can argue that CN, BW, and co have done some good work (they have) and that the policy of ruthlessness are a necessary evil when results are coming in.
But they haven't been have they?
I hope the new FSA sanctioned supporter representatives are reading this are intending to ask some serious questions. [Post edited 25 Nov 13:58]
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Clubs like QPR need people like Furlong - they know the place inside out, they are respected by fans and players, they carry with them the history of the club and of previous teams. All of that is important, otherwise you're just another blank slate, another 'project' in an industry full of them.
We've seen this before, of course, when a previous regime got rid of everyone with a strong connection to the club. Some of us remember how that turned out too. | | | |
| Furs leaving on 13:49 - Nov 25 with 2616 views | KensalT |
| Furs leaving on 13:20 - Nov 25 by wombat |
So the club angle will be left by mutual consent as normal then ?
not sure nourry has any idea on how to react in the ways you rightly describe to be honest |
If it was mutual consent they could have said Furs 'agreed' to move on, not that it was 'decided'.
Looks like someone is trying to project themself as the strong man.
Strong leaders are all well and good in their place but they have to deliver or they get the chop.
Nourry is painting himself into a corner. If he doesn't deliver significant progress in the next 18 months or so his job has to be on the line. | | | |
| Furs leaving on 13:50 - Nov 25 with 2598 views | PlanetHonneywood |
If he'd done a crap job, it'd be ok.
But he hasn't. In actual fact, he's probably been the most successful coach/staff member at the Big Top for some time now. His departure seems one based more on power assertion than anything else.
As Aston said: more institutional knowledge/QPR affiliation lost! |  |
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| Furs leaving on 13:57 - Nov 25 with 2534 views | queensparker |
| Furs leaving on 12:35 - Nov 25 by kensalriser |
That's my thinking.
It's very much in keeping with what appears to the style of the current management - anyone who isn't one of their people is deemed to be a threat and to be purged. |
That’s essentially the corporate world.
Bring in some new bullshitter, get rid of the old guard that call them out, bring in faithful acolytes, bullshitter leaves onto the next big role when their ideas turn out to be bullsh-t.
Rinse and repeat |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 14:06 - Nov 25 with 2475 views | OakR |
If true, very sad to see him go. Like others loved watching him and it;s always good to have ex-players like him around the club.
I met him very briefly a month or so ago at the ground. Came across as a really good person to have around, personality that people warm to, positive etc. Seemed very popular in the other interactions I saw.
Seems a real shame. I hope he goes on to find somewhere else he does well at. Definitely not a fan of this move, however it's come about. | |
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| Furs leaving on 14:15 - Nov 25 with 2402 views | daveB |
| Furs leaving on 12:18 - Nov 25 by Hunterhoop |
For clarity, the methodology department reports through De Souza into Nourry, not via Ben Williams, as I understand it.
Even if, somehow it was a Williams call, the CEO would have to sign off on it. He’s not a hands of type of bloke either… |
Stupid question but what on earth is the methodology department |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 14:19 - Nov 25 with 2370 views | daveB |
| Furs leaving on 13:21 - Nov 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/january/08/chris-ramsey-departs/
Hoos, the previous CEO at least gave Chris Ramsey the respect of an article. And, with the greatest of respect to Ramsey, he's not as much a part of our history as Furs is.
It's just the right thing to do. It's also the smart thing to do.
Nourry won't last long here. This stuff is appalling. |
It's not just Furlong. The way some players have been treated is diabolical as well from Sam Field to Rayan Kolli to Paul Nardi and Kenneth Paal.
The way he got rid of Marti told everyone how he'll treat people he no longer wants. | | | |
| Furs leaving on 14:21 - Nov 25 with 2359 views | wombat |
| Furs leaving on 13:21 - Nov 25 by BrianMcCarthy |
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/january/08/chris-ramsey-departs/
Hoos, the previous CEO at least gave Chris Ramsey the respect of an article. And, with the greatest of respect to Ramsey, he's not as much a part of our history as Furs is.
It's just the right thing to do. It's also the smart thing to do.
Nourry won't last long here. This stuff is appalling. |
nourry will last as long as he wants , nobody at the club will tell him to jog on , hoos and him run the club how they want it to be run , only got to lookk back at how badly the marti exit was handled to know neither have a clue on PR with fans | |
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| Furs leaving on 14:22 - Nov 25 with 2351 views | Northernr |
| Furs leaving on 14:15 - Nov 25 by daveB |
Stupid question but what on earth is the methodology department |
I don't think that's a stupid question at all mate. |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 14:35 - Nov 25 with 2264 views | wombat |
| Furs leaving on 14:22 - Nov 25 by Northernr |
I don't think that's a stupid question at all mate. |
didnt desouza state he was the first person in the u to get such a degree at the fans forum ? and to this day ive still no idea what it is or what it achieves for the benifit of the club or prob even the player . seems to me somebody though at a uni lets invent a new class for those who arent that bright and see who signs up for it ,
anyone have any idea how many clubs are loaded with methodology guys behind the scenes ? | |
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| Furs leaving on 14:41 - Nov 25 with 2219 views | NewYorkRanger |
A lot of people seemingly upset on here at this news but we'll always have Bobby Z in 89 to remind us of how great this club can be |  |
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| Furs leaving on 14:58 - Nov 25 with 2130 views | ted_hendrix |
| Furs leaving on 14:15 - Nov 25 by daveB |
Stupid question but what on earth is the methodology department |
**methodology department**
Jesus Christ. |  |
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| Furs leaving on 15:09 - Nov 25 with 2064 views | mikeygunn |
Not sure if he was in charge today, but beat Sheff Wed 2-6. Goals in the 79th, 86th, 88th and 89th minute. That escalated quickly. |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 15:13 - Nov 25 with 2041 views | Myke |
Nothing to back this up at all, but if the Methodology guy is constantly undermining what you are trying to do, then it could be very challenging to keep going. Furs appears to be a very principled guy and if he felt he wasn’t able to give his all, then he might decide to walk away. Really poor from the club if this is the case | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:21 - Nov 25 with 2004 views | numptydumpty |
| Furs leaving on 14:41 - Nov 25 by NewYorkRanger |
A lot of people seemingly upset on here at this news but we'll always have Bobby Z in 89 to remind us of how great this club can be |
He has tried his best for us over many years but its not as if the youth system has worked that well over many many years. Surely a piece thanking Furs will be posted.
Like others have said this kind of thing happens, all the time, when new guys coming in at the top and have their own ways of working and bringing in their own people
There have been signs of progress, so cant say as yet whether this is good or bad. Two years down the line and lets see where we are.
The world of football is the same as any other organisations, and new sweeps brought in to hopefully improve things further. No room for sentiments anymore. If it works all well and good, obviously done with the beliefs a replacement could do better.
Comme Ci, Comme Ca !!!
Such is life !!! [Post edited 25 Nov 15:50]
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| Furs leaving on 15:43 - Nov 25 with 1884 views | Mick_S |
There is the “Penny dropping” thread elsewhere - how bloody apt. For me, I’ve been very unsure about Nourry and his sycophants but this just stinks.
As Brian said “decency”
Hunter said “people talk”
This seems to be a very personal and nasty decision. |  |
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