| Breaking News 21:10 - May 14 with 3824 views | SaintNick |
It seems that Middlesbrough will not be involved in the Spygate independent commission, it is just the EFL bringing the charges against Saints meaning Boro will have no right of appeal.
This seems strange which seems to suggest they have no real evidence to present |  |
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| Breaking News on 21:14 - May 14 with 3750 views | saintmark1976 |
Source Nick ? |  |
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| Breaking News on 21:14 - May 14 with 3752 views | MattFinish |
That may then make sense of the EFL having released tickets tonight |  | | |
| Breaking News on 21:15 - May 14 with 3732 views | shotters |
Rob Dorsett on sky sports news |  |
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| Breaking News on 21:16 - May 14 with 3722 views | 1885_SFC |
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| Breaking News on 22:02 - May 14 with 3538 views | Heisenberg |
It’s standard that Boro won’t be involved. They have submitted all their evidence. The panel will decide what the fitting punishment is. Boro will have no right of appeal but can launch civil action against Saints.
Tickets being released tomorrow does seem to indicate we won’t be banned now. Hefty fine and points. |  |
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| Breaking News on 22:22 - May 14 with 3437 views | LondonSaint76 |
Nick, as a veteran of disciplinary hearings at County FA level - and being brought in on quite a few FA appeal boards as the often use us CFA bods as panel members this is quite familiar to me as a method of conducting certain hearings. The FA’s compliance unit often use this method where only the accused party and the panel are present, and as has been said above, standard practise for this kind of complaint. No appeal route other than CAS In Lausanne is available to either party depending on the findings of the hearing as either Boro or Saints won’t be happy with the outcome. It is also quite possible that any ancillary evidence Boro have been busy gathering such as supposed spying on other clubs plus the ex-Saints employee who is supposed to have come forward to help Boro will not be taken into consideration as they will only look at the single complaint of the alleged spying on the Thursday before the first leg play off game and nothing else.
One other interesting fact - if as you have suggested Boro really don’t have a case then THEY can be sanctioned for submitting a vexatious complaint!! I don’t think that will happen but it would be hilarious if it did - bedwetter Gibson would hurl his toys so far out of his pram you would need a search party to find them… [Post edited 14 May 22:31]
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| Breaking News on 22:27 - May 14 with 3410 views | PatfromPoole |
Who would be representing Saints at the hearing? |  |
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| Breaking News on 23:33 - May 14 with 3307 views | LondonSaint76 |
| Breaking News on 22:27 - May 14 by PatfromPoole |
Who would be representing Saints at the hearing? |
Without seeing the charge sheet; as it is the club who have been charged not the person allegedly spying it would traditionally see the club secretary summoned to appear before the panel. However, clubs are structured in different ways these days so most likely it will be the CEO who is summoned to appear. Bit of a worry as PP is not a 'football person' with 30 yrs experience but much more of a corporate animal than a traditional football one.
In summary, traditionally the buck always used to stop with the Club Sec so in these changed times I'd say the CEO is a good shout. [Post edited 14 May 23:36]
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| Breaking News on 23:57 - May 14 with 3253 views | TripleNiemi |
| Breaking News on 22:27 - May 14 by PatfromPoole |
Who would be representing Saints at the hearing? |
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| Breaking News on 03:36 - May 15 with 3115 views | NYC_Saint |
It is increasingly being reported that the "Spy" is an ex temporary employee in the press. Seems they are winding back their witch hunt/ptich fork journalism a touch.
initial claims from Middlesbrough have been disproved (not a saints currently employed analyst, did not see his footage and have it deleted, did not even apprehend/engage with him, did not have any professional recording equipment, was not deeply concealed in bushes etc etc).
I really hope this has been a tempest in a tea cup drummed up by Borough thinking they had us over a barrel. Our measured retort may well have been one of quiet confidence while a trust but verify the ex intern wasn't being engaged with was carried out... | | | |
| Breaking News on 08:38 - May 15 with 2801 views | Centurion |
Thanks London Saint, a very clear account.
I am feeling nervy and like most am upset that Saints are being pilloried over this whole sorry saga. | | | |
| Breaking News on 19:46 - May 15 with 2396 views | LondonSaint76 |
| Breaking News on 08:38 - May 15 by Centurion |
Thanks London Saint, a very clear account.
I am feeling nervy and like most am upset that Saints are being pilloried over this whole sorry saga. |
You are welcome.
Agreed, it is all very unsettling and it is horrible seeing our name dragged through the mud when the likes of Chelsea & Man City have done far worse.
Gibson is out of control and in panic mode as the very expensive specialist sports lawyer he has hired (known as Mr.Lioohole - because he will always find one) now won’t get the opportunity to tie the hearing in knots as Boro won’t be there so Gibson is now trying to influence the outcome of the hearing through the media. Boro should definitely be hit with two improper conduct charges, one for the club and one for Gibson in person.
That’s the problem with multi-millionaires, they are used to always getting their own way and when someone says no to them they hurl their toys out of the pram. | | | |
| Breaking News on 19:59 - May 15 with 2348 views | saintpaz |
| Breaking News on 19:46 - May 15 by LondonSaint76 |
You are welcome.
Agreed, it is all very unsettling and it is horrible seeing our name dragged through the mud when the likes of Chelsea & Man City have done far worse.
Gibson is out of control and in panic mode as the very expensive specialist sports lawyer he has hired (known as Mr.Lioohole - because he will always find one) now won’t get the opportunity to tie the hearing in knots as Boro won’t be there so Gibson is now trying to influence the outcome of the hearing through the media. Boro should definitely be hit with two improper conduct charges, one for the club and one for Gibson in person.
That’s the problem with multi-millionaires, they are used to always getting their own way and when someone says no to them they hurl their toys out of the pram. |
so from a purely general view, is that then fair that Boro can't attend the hearing? Is that common practice? I actually really would have thought they could but have no idea tbh. [Post edited 15 May 19:59]
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| Breaking News on 20:09 - May 15 with 2326 views | Heisenberg |
| Breaking News on 19:59 - May 15 by saintpaz |
so from a purely general view, is that then fair that Boro can't attend the hearing? Is that common practice? I actually really would have thought they could but have no idea tbh. [Post edited 15 May 19:59]
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| Breaking News on 21:28 - May 15 with 2234 views | saint22 |
| Breaking News on 03:36 - May 15 by NYC_Saint |
It is increasingly being reported that the "Spy" is an ex temporary employee in the press. Seems they are winding back their witch hunt/ptich fork journalism a touch.
initial claims from Middlesbrough have been disproved (not a saints currently employed analyst, did not see his footage and have it deleted, did not even apprehend/engage with him, did not have any professional recording equipment, was not deeply concealed in bushes etc etc).
I really hope this has been a tempest in a tea cup drummed up by Borough thinking they had us over a barrel. Our measured retort may well have been one of quiet confidence while a trust but verify the ex intern wasn't being engaged with was carried out... |
This rings true I would say
Amazing how they managed to get such. Clean shot of him carrying out his surveillance | | | |
| Breaking News on 21:32 - May 15 with 2227 views | saintpaz |
| Breaking News on 21:28 - May 15 by saint22 |
This rings true I would say
Amazing how they managed to get such. Clean shot of him carrying out his surveillance |
apparently taken by a staff member at the clubhouse there, looks like he wanted to be caught don't you think?  | | | |
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