| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase 21:48 - May 24 with 15634 views | PatfromPoole |
Now that the dust has begun to settle, I am sensing that the pendulum is swinging from “Tonda out” to “Tonda in”.
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 22:14 - May 24 with 9993 views | shotters |
Think it's out of our hands and the FA will ban him
If they don't, then I'd be happy for him to continue in the post, partly because the performances I saw under him were excellent and I'd be wary who we'd appoint to replace him
Also if he isn't banned then a lot will depend on whether the players are prepared to work with him in future
Don't care what the media or other fans think of us, f**k em |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 22:17 - May 24 with 9973 views | saint22 |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 22:14 - May 24 by shotters |
Think it's out of our hands and the FA will ban him
If they don't, then I'd be happy for him to continue in the post, partly because the performances I saw under him were excellent and I'd be wary who we'd appoint to replace him
Also if he isn't banned then a lot will depend on whether the players are prepared to work with him in future
Don't care what the media or other fans think of us, f**k em |
Given he admitted cheating and looks like he harassed junior staff I really don’t see how he can stay |  | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 23:14 - May 24 with 9866 views | Southamptonfan |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 22:17 - May 24 by saint22 |
Given he admitted cheating and looks like he harassed junior staff I really don’t see how he can stay |
Hmm, morally you're right. But if we had the choice:
1) An "immoral" manager who is a winner and gets Saints promoted with aggressive, full throttle performances. Just a bit of the dark arts thrown in.
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2).A pleasant moral, decent guy that doesn't get promotion and we get bullied on the pitch? I.e Will Still
Some may say what about the moral manager that gets us promotion but -
Alex Ferguson was called a bully by some, so was Clough, so was Jose Mourinho amd they carried out the dark arts too. Great winners do whatever it takes to win and their fans loved winning titles. I loved watching Saints win games, loved watching Downes rough up the.opposition, and.loved watching THB cause chaos. Tonda would get success and I want success, but he's does some.spying 🤷. [Post edited 24 May 23:19]
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:11 - May 25 with 9763 views | SanMarco |
The fan base is therefore the most forgiving in history. He got us chucked out of a play off final we would have won. All our anger at the media, Mboro and the EFL, however justified, does not change the fact that Tonda chose to cheat with catastrophic consequences. He may be able to rebuild his career after he's served his ban but any future achievements here would be forever tainted. And surely we're not that forgiving? I know I'm not and I would think that the majority of supporters would agree with me in that. It's a great shame but Tonda brought this on himself and us. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:19 - May 25 with 9730 views | darthvader |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 23:14 - May 24 by Southamptonfan |
Hmm, morally you're right. But if we had the choice:
1) An "immoral" manager who is a winner and gets Saints promoted with aggressive, full throttle performances. Just a bit of the dark arts thrown in.
Or
2).A pleasant moral, decent guy that doesn't get promotion and we get bullied on the pitch? I.e Will Still
Some may say what about the moral manager that gets us promotion but -
Alex Ferguson was called a bully by some, so was Clough, so was Jose Mourinho amd they carried out the dark arts too. Great winners do whatever it takes to win and their fans loved winning titles. I loved watching Saints win games, loved watching Downes rough up the.opposition, and.loved watching THB cause chaos. Tonda would get success and I want success, but he's does some.spying 🤷. [Post edited 24 May 23:19]
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Im firmly in wanting him to continue .. apologize ..say things that everyone wants to hear... Then put it to bed ..
Ask yourself this , if we weren't chucked out and it was a fine and points we would all want him to stay and fight for the club .
Hes a young man , made mistakes we all do .
Ive been through the Angry , and almost 'grief' bit about all this ..now thanks to Hull yesterday lifting my shít fúcking mood ..i cant wait for next season ..
Fúck the other teams and there fans , fúck sky and fúck the media all of them .
Up the bloody Saints |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:27 - May 25 with 9738 views | Southamptonfan |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:19 - May 25 by darthvader |
Im firmly in wanting him to continue .. apologize ..say things that everyone wants to hear... Then put it to bed ..
Ask yourself this , if we weren't chucked out and it was a fine and points we would all want him to stay and fight for the club .
Hes a young man , made mistakes we all do .
Ive been through the Angry , and almost 'grief' bit about all this ..now thanks to Hull yesterday lifting my shít fúcking mood ..i cant wait for next season ..
Fúck the other teams and there fans , fúck sky and fúck the media all of them .
Up the bloody Saints |
I agree with everything you have put here. I would like Tonda to stay. BUT, he will.probabaly get banned won't he? Then we would be forced to get in another manager. Plus, I would like to know what the players feelings are. | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:36 - May 25 with 9714 views | Bridders2 |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:19 - May 25 by darthvader |
Im firmly in wanting him to continue .. apologize ..say things that everyone wants to hear... Then put it to bed ..
Ask yourself this , if we weren't chucked out and it was a fine and points we would all want him to stay and fight for the club .
Hes a young man , made mistakes we all do .
Ive been through the Angry , and almost 'grief' bit about all this ..now thanks to Hull yesterday lifting my shít fúcking mood ..i cant wait for next season ..
Fúck the other teams and there fans , fúck sky and fúck the media all of them .
Up the bloody Saints |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 02:21 - May 25 with 9674 views | saint22 |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 23:14 - May 24 by Southamptonfan |
Hmm, morally you're right. But if we had the choice:
1) An "immoral" manager who is a winner and gets Saints promoted with aggressive, full throttle performances. Just a bit of the dark arts thrown in.
Or
2).A pleasant moral, decent guy that doesn't get promotion and we get bullied on the pitch? I.e Will Still
Some may say what about the moral manager that gets us promotion but -
Alex Ferguson was called a bully by some, so was Clough, so was Jose Mourinho amd they carried out the dark arts too. Great winners do whatever it takes to win and their fans loved winning titles. I loved watching Saints win games, loved watching Downes rough up the.opposition, and.loved watching THB cause chaos. Tonda would get success and I want success, but he's does some.spying 🤷. [Post edited 24 May 23:19]
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I would agree in the main but not sure Fergie or Miurinho admitted actual cheating which is the big difference here | | | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 06:59 - May 25 with 9551 views | davidargyll |
I confess I was in the “over my dead body brigade”.
But now that I have calmed down quite a bit, I am not quite so anti. Not because I am any less pissed off about what he did - especially the bullying - but because he seemed to be able to get something out of the players which at best will take quite a time to be replicated by a new man.
Of course he may get a ban so it will be out of our hands.
But if he is allowed to continue, he will need to show he has one helluva strong character to take all the away abuse which is a cert to come his way, plus inevitably he will need to prove that he really does have the magic touch without cheating, something which everyone has assumed he has but does anybody really know? | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 07:13 - May 25 with 9530 views | dixiefrog |
He supported the players and fans during some very sh1t times and pulled us through, its time for us to do the same. | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 07:59 - May 25 with 9418 views | kernow |
My stance has never changed. I would like Saints to retain his services but as others have said, there are serious doubts that his position is tenable, unfortunately. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 08:18 - May 25 with 9384 views | mushinexile |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 00:11 - May 25 by SanMarco |
The fan base is therefore the most forgiving in history. He got us chucked out of a play off final we would have won. All our anger at the media, Mboro and the EFL, however justified, does not change the fact that Tonda chose to cheat with catastrophic consequences. He may be able to rebuild his career after he's served his ban but any future achievements here would be forever tainted. And surely we're not that forgiving? I know I'm not and I would think that the majority of supporters would agree with me in that. It's a great shame but Tonda brought this on himself and us. |
He got us chucked out of a playoff final. He got us there in the first place! | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:06 - May 25 with 9151 views | dirk_doone |
According to the big poll on Saintsweb, the majority of Saints fans don't want him sacked.
Why should they? It would be stupid. Even if you don't like him, it makes more sense to wait for the FA decision. But, most Saints fans hope we can keep the best manager we've had for years.
Even if the FA suspend him, I'd happily take someone like Roy Hodgson as an interim manager so that we can get him back, because Tonda's going to win trophies for some club and I would rather it was Saints. [Post edited 25 May 10:10]
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:30 - May 25 with 9116 views | Chesham_Saint |
It’s a tough world. Enough of the sanctimony. As far as I’m concerned he stays. |  |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:33 - May 25 with 9110 views | PatfromPoole |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:06 - May 25 by dirk_doone |
According to the big poll on Saintsweb, the majority of Saints fans don't want him sacked.
Why should they? It would be stupid. Even if you don't like him, it makes more sense to wait for the FA decision. But, most Saints fans hope we can keep the best manager we've had for years.
Even if the FA suspend him, I'd happily take someone like Roy Hodgson as an interim manager so that we can get him back, because Tonda's going to win trophies for some club and I would rather it was Saints. [Post edited 25 May 10:10]
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Current vote on there is as below.
Sack him - 142 (48.8%)
Don't sack him - 149 (51.2%)
Interesting.
Dare I say, this could be the new Brexit...... | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:42 - May 25 with 9083 views | kernow |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:33 - May 25 by PatfromPoole |
Current vote on there is as below.
Sack him - 142 (48.8%)
Don't sack him - 149 (51.2%)
Interesting.
Dare I say, this could be the new Brexit...... |
Hopefully not as disastrous. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:47 - May 25 with 9074 views | shotters |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:33 - May 25 by PatfromPoole |
Current vote on there is as below.
Sack him - 142 (48.8%)
Don't sack him - 149 (51.2%)
Interesting.
Dare I say, this could be the new Brexit...... |
Ecksit
That will be something to look forward to then
Those who wanted him to remain moaning at the first sign of a poor run of form
Those who wanted him to leave saying its going to take time after the last few months of European rule [Post edited 25 May 10:50]
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:47 - May 25 with 9069 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Do you seriously think that this bloke can get you promoted if he isn’t cheating?
The only reason he has great stats is because he was cheating. The only reason he got all the players onside and gave them confidence is because he was cheating.
He won’t have all the players onside this time, he won’t have anywhere the same stats, and enough fans will turn on him when and if the results drop down too significantly. .
Then you have the players who will be getting out of the club. Will your club be able to get enough quality players coming in due to the cloud sitting over your club?
I would also imagine that enough coaches will be cheesed off about this and will share ideas about how to stop your team. [Post edited 25 May 10:49]
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:49 - May 25 with 9052 views | kernow |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:47 - May 25 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Do you seriously think that this bloke can get you promoted if he isn’t cheating?
The only reason he has great stats is because he was cheating. The only reason he got all the players onside and gave them confidence is because he was cheating.
He won’t have all the players onside this time, he won’t have anywhere the same stats, and enough fans will turn on him when and if the results drop down too significantly. .
Then you have the players who will be getting out of the club. Will your club be able to get enough quality players coming in due to the cloud sitting over your club?
I would also imagine that enough coaches will be cheesed off about this and will share ideas about how to stop your team. [Post edited 25 May 10:49]
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Thanks . Now sod off. | | | |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:51 - May 25 with 9033 views | 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:49 - May 25 by kernow |
Thanks . Now sod off. |
And that is probably what is going to happen to the manager anyway. | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:52 - May 25 with 9027 views | shotters |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:49 - May 25 by kernow |
Thanks . Now sod off. |
Was going to reply, but can't be arsed
If 130 is who I think he is then he was a lot more interesting on SaintsMad | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:52 - May 25 with 9021 views | kernow |
And you think it’s any of your business because..?
Sorry, that was my response to the troll, not you mush. [Post edited 25 May 10:54]
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:59 - May 25 with 8985 views | dixiefrog |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:47 - May 25 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Do you seriously think that this bloke can get you promoted if he isn’t cheating?
The only reason he has great stats is because he was cheating. The only reason he got all the players onside and gave them confidence is because he was cheating.
He won’t have all the players onside this time, he won’t have anywhere the same stats, and enough fans will turn on him when and if the results drop down too significantly. .
Then you have the players who will be getting out of the club. Will your club be able to get enough quality players coming in due to the cloud sitting over your club?
I would also imagine that enough coaches will be cheesed off about this and will share ideas about how to stop your team. [Post edited 25 May 10:49]
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Well done, must have been quite a struggle writing all those big words. | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:00 - May 25 with 8978 views | Chesham_Saint |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:49 - May 25 by kernow |
Thanks . Now sod off. |
To the power of ten. What an absolute Benny this plodder is. | |
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| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 11:03 - May 25 with 8964 views | 1teeminants |
| I sense a change of stance in the fanbase on 10:47 - May 25 by 130yrs_and_one_Cup |
Do you seriously think that this bloke can get you promoted if he isn’t cheating?
The only reason he has great stats is because he was cheating. The only reason he got all the players onside and gave them confidence is because he was cheating.
He won’t have all the players onside this time, he won’t have anywhere the same stats, and enough fans will turn on him when and if the results drop down too significantly. .
Then you have the players who will be getting out of the club. Will your club be able to get enough quality players coming in due to the cloud sitting over your club?
I would also imagine that enough coaches will be cheesed off about this and will share ideas about how to stop your team. [Post edited 25 May 10:49]
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130 you just concentrate on being below us yet again fvck me I’m in my 60’s how many seasons you been above us? I’d be embarrassed if I was a skate. [Post edited 25 May 11:05]
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