| Surely 22:41 - Jul 7 with 1393 views | MattFinish |
Infantino has to go and the US should never host a World Cup again
It’s a farce that they’ve hosted two World Cups and England, home of football, has only had one |  | | |  |
| Surely on 22:57 - Jul 7 with 1360 views | SaintNick |
You would think so on both accounts, however I doubt that FIFA will be able to shift Infantino and by the time they get near another one ie 30 years, Trump will be long gone |  |
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| Surely on 08:17 - Jul 8 with 1183 views | PatfromPoole |
The only way they will get rid of him is if the voting structure is changed, and they get rid of the 1 vote per country rule; a lot of the smaller countries are voting for him.
Plenty of links on Twitter to his reaction to the second Egypt goal yesterday; he was fuming when it looked like Argentina may go out.
Almost surreal that he is making Blatter look like a beacon of honesty. |  |
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| Surely on 08:33 - Jul 8 with 1163 views | 1ASIN12 |
Just seen some of the favouritism towards Argentina last night. You can see where these rumours around FIFA wanting certain teams to go through come from.
Unfortunately the World Cup has been a success and generated lots of money for FIFA until that changes then nothing will change - It would take a brave decision by a lot of people and countries to change things and I can’t see that happening. |  |
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| Surely on 09:58 - Jul 8 with 1118 views | Ifonly |
Unlikely that anything will change at FIFA, but the slight hope is that UEFA have now completely fallen out with them. Relations between them must be in the toilet judging by UEFA's comments on the Balogun scandal. The point here is that UEFA is the real financial titan of world football. Europe is still the big dog, look at this world cup: 6 of the last 8 are European. FIFA needs these countries and the revenue generated by viewers in those nations. If they weren't playing, FIFA's revenues would collapse. Even as things stand, UEFA generates more revenue than FIFA, due to the Champions League.
In other areas of football, it's the money that counts, so UEFA should have the power to make changes at FIFA. But FIFA is set up with the tiniest country having the same power as all the rest and they won't want to give up that power or the gravy train it gives them. The only way it will change is if UEFA start to throw their weight around, which ultimately means threatening to withdraw from the world cup. If they did that, FIFA would be left with nothing of any value.
This could be brought to a head because FIFA are looking to challenge UEFA's cash machine by expanding their crappy club world cup, which they hope will supersede the Champions League. It could all get very messy and ultimately lead to the end of the world cup, which I hope doesn't happen. But we might see a fight and UEFA threaten to withdraw, just as a way of getting more power within FIFA, which I don't think would be a bad thing because it would then be slightly less corrupt. | | | |
| Surely on 10:22 - Jul 8 with 1087 views | saints__fan__73 |
Why should the US never host a WC again? |  |
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| Surely on 10:58 - Jul 8 with 1044 views | arfurdent |
| Surely on 10:22 - Jul 8 by saints__fan__73 |
Why should the US never host a WC again? |
WC is a polite term for what the US call a shitehouse |  |
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| Surely on 13:09 - Jul 8 with 961 views | franniesTache |
Why would FIFA get rid of him? He's doing exactly the job he's meant to be doing, bringing money into FIFA.
Yeah we might all hate him (and FIFA) but as a business he's made them richer so is successful |  | | |
| Surely on 13:25 - Jul 8 with 918 views | HytheFerrytales |
| Surely on 13:09 - Jul 8 by franniesTache |
Why would FIFA get rid of him? He's doing exactly the job he's meant to be doing, bringing money into FIFA.
Yeah we might all hate him (and FIFA) but as a business he's made them richer so is successful |
Yep...only two hopes he goes anywhere soon..
1.None and2. Bob. | | | |
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| Surely on 13:52 - Jul 8 with 892 views | kernow |
| Surely on 08:33 - Jul 8 by 1ASIN12 |
Just seen some of the favouritism towards Argentina last night. You can see where these rumours around FIFA wanting certain teams to go through come from.
Unfortunately the World Cup has been a success and generated lots of money for FIFA until that changes then nothing will change - It would take a brave decision by a lot of people and countries to change things and I can’t see that happening. |
He sat there in the Azteca with a face like a smacked arse, obviously not the desired result the other morning.
FIFA corruption is blatant. | | | |
| Surely on 14:11 - Jul 8 with 861 views | Ifonly |
| Surely on 13:09 - Jul 8 by franniesTache |
Why would FIFA get rid of him? He's doing exactly the job he's meant to be doing, bringing money into FIFA.
Yeah we might all hate him (and FIFA) but as a business he's made them richer so is successful |
It's not the money into the organisation that matters, it's how much they can take for personal gain. The way FIFA works is that, to be elected, the FIFA president has to convince the voters that he will best protect their interests i.e. turn a blind eye to what they're doing and shield them from investigation. The country associations then take the vast sums that FIFA gives them for "football projects" and make it disappear.
In 2015, the US just touched the surface of the corruption with a very limited investigation, with scandalous results. Ten years on, FIFA was widely seen as more corrupt than it had ever been:
https://www.theguardian.com/fo
They're not all corrupt (I don't think our FA is) but most of the small countries are and they have most of the votes. | | | |
| Surely on 16:05 - Jul 8 with 762 views | StRipper |
| Surely on 14:11 - Jul 8 by Ifonly |
It's not the money into the organisation that matters, it's how much they can take for personal gain. The way FIFA works is that, to be elected, the FIFA president has to convince the voters that he will best protect their interests i.e. turn a blind eye to what they're doing and shield them from investigation. The country associations then take the vast sums that FIFA gives them for "football projects" and make it disappear.
In 2015, the US just touched the surface of the corruption with a very limited investigation, with scandalous results. Ten years on, FIFA was widely seen as more corrupt than it had ever been:
https://www.theguardian.com/fo
They're not all corrupt (I don't think our FA is) but most of the small countries are and they have most of the votes. |
The FA isn't corrupt? Thats hilarious. | | | |
| Surely on 16:48 - Jul 8 with 732 views | HytheFerrytales |
Actually proving any one individual in FIFA is corrupt is a very very high bar.
Blatter and Platini were acquitted not once, but twice over the £2 million paid by FIFA/Blatter to Platini covering an agreement between them (handshake ) covering the salary/bonus he had foregone due to the parlous state of FIFA finances at the time ( they seem to have turned that around )
So the fact that 99% of the free world think FIFA is corrupt means f*ck all unless you want to spend 10's of millions and many years trying to make it stick in court.
You are also in Swiss Courts in a country that is the spiritual home of financial chicanery. | | | |
| Surely on 17:11 - Jul 8 with 713 views | Ifonly |
| Surely on 16:05 - Jul 8 by StRipper |
The FA isn't corrupt? Thats hilarious. |
The English FA is one of the few that publishes detailed accounts and financial statements. It is audited by Deloitte who are a major accountant, not a backroom operation. With all the governance and controls it would be very difficult for corruption to happen and stories would have leaked out if it did, as has happened with FIFA.
So what's your evidence that it is corrupt? It would be hilarious if you haven't got any. | | | |
| Surely on 17:19 - Jul 8 with 698 views | Ifonly |
| Surely on 16:48 - Jul 8 by HytheFerrytales |
Actually proving any one individual in FIFA is corrupt is a very very high bar.
Blatter and Platini were acquitted not once, but twice over the £2 million paid by FIFA/Blatter to Platini covering an agreement between them (handshake ) covering the salary/bonus he had foregone due to the parlous state of FIFA finances at the time ( they seem to have turned that around )
So the fact that 99% of the free world think FIFA is corrupt means f*ck all unless you want to spend 10's of millions and many years trying to make it stick in court.
You are also in Swiss Courts in a country that is the spiritual home of financial chicanery. |
The run of the mill corruption doesn't happen in Switzerland and it isn't committed by the likes of Blatter. It happens at the country level around the world. They are the people taking an illegal slice of the revenue and they can be convicted if the effort is put in. 14 of them were convicted in the 2015 case.
Blatter and Infantino don't need to be corrupt. If they turn a blind eye to the country corruption, then they will be elected by the countries and can just rake in huge salaries and bonuses. Infantino has a base salary of £2.5m. | | | |
| Surely on 17:27 - Jul 8 with 684 views | franniesTache |
| Surely on 17:19 - Jul 8 by Ifonly |
The run of the mill corruption doesn't happen in Switzerland and it isn't committed by the likes of Blatter. It happens at the country level around the world. They are the people taking an illegal slice of the revenue and they can be convicted if the effort is put in. 14 of them were convicted in the 2015 case.
Blatter and Infantino don't need to be corrupt. If they turn a blind eye to the country corruption, then they will be elected by the countries and can just rake in huge salaries and bonuses. Infantino has a base salary of £2.5m. |
A base salary of £2.5m for a job like his is actually fairly low i'd argue, i think FIFA turns over close to $8bn, and i doubt there's many CEO's of companies turning over that kind of cash on such a low salary (relative) | | | |
| Surely on 17:47 - Jul 8 with 662 views | HytheFerrytales |
| Surely on 17:19 - Jul 8 by Ifonly |
The run of the mill corruption doesn't happen in Switzerland and it isn't committed by the likes of Blatter. It happens at the country level around the world. They are the people taking an illegal slice of the revenue and they can be convicted if the effort is put in. 14 of them were convicted in the 2015 case.
Blatter and Infantino don't need to be corrupt. If they turn a blind eye to the country corruption, then they will be elected by the countries and can just rake in huge salaries and bonuses. Infantino has a base salary of £2.5m. |
OK, but FIFA is incorporated in Switzerland and therefore any attempt to chase any FIFA person/entity outside Switzerland will immediately run into Jurisdiction issues and that means back we go to Swiss courts | | | |
| Surely on 18:44 - Jul 8 with 628 views | Ifonly |
| Surely on 17:27 - Jul 8 by franniesTache |
A base salary of £2.5m for a job like his is actually fairly low i'd argue, i think FIFA turns over close to $8bn, and i doubt there's many CEO's of companies turning over that kind of cash on such a low salary (relative) |
Maybe true. That £2.5m is his base salary. As with CEOs, he will have substantial bonuses, no doubt. But I think the main difference is the difficulty of the job. If you're a CEO of a big company, it's a really demanding job, mostly because the competition are always trying to get one step ahead and you have to be constantly answerable to the owners or the shareholders. If you don't beat the competition and keep the owners happy, then you're out.
FIFA don't have any competition, they have a monopoly and they don't have any shareholders to answer to either. So Infantino's job is not really comparable to one of those CEOs, it's a lot easier. And so long as he keeps all the corrupt countries happy, he'll keep his cushy job. | | | |
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