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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by SaintPaulVW at 07:34:43

Great performance, faced up to Chelsea and matched them on the pitch.

Can only echo that Lyanco was superb.

Valery - great return. We seem to have gone from famine to feast at fullback.

Roll on Watford

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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by WestSussexSaint at 07:32:41

The EFL cup has been a useful exercise this season for giving those players who aren’t first team regulars a chance to prove why they should be. Elyanoussi and Broja have both taken that route into the PL starting XI this season. It will be interesting to see if the two outstanding performers from last night get a chance. Lyanco may do as Bednarek has been pretty average this season although whether it will be the next game against Watford may be determined by how well he recovers from his first 90 mins since last season. The other is Forster, however the narrative is different for him. I have always thought he is the better keeper compared to McCarthy but with the former out of contract next summer and the latter being offered a new one it is clear McCarthy is the number one. Only a dramatic loss of form or injury to McCarthy will see a change and to be fair his performance level has been pretty good this season. I’m afraid we won’t see Fraser again until the FA cup starts in the new year.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by EasyToger at 07:08:05

I don’t know about anyone else but I’m sick and tired of being the plucky loser.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by JoeEgg at 03:57:55

Once again I repeat we have probably the best squad of players seen at St Marys for many years. I saw Lyanco for the first time since his Torino days and what an improvement! Strangely enough more popular choices like Diallo and Tella were disappointing and I do feel sorry for Theo!! I gather the highest paid Saints player on the field but nothing is going right for the guy! Last night also underlined just how much we miss a fit Danny Ings!
I have always liked Fraser Forster - admittedly he went through a bad patch but keepers often do - surely on last nights performance he deserves to be the Number One keeper?
I have been very critical of Ralph recently having welcomed him initially as a breath of fresh air after the previous Boss. But choosing the best starting eleven looks to have become more difficult than ever with Forster, Lyanco, Walker Peters and Smallbone all be pushing for a start.
The second half was both entertaining and encouraging for Saints. I firmly believe that there is so much more to come from this group of players; We should certainly not be looking at them, as Nick put it just "to see us through", but they should soon be taking us into a comfortable top half of the league position.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by davidargyll at 23:04:32

I agree with all your comments except that the only person I thought was completely anonymous was Nathan Tella. I don’t think I ever saw him touch the ball. Lots of people on here have been crying out for him to start. On tonight’s evidence I can’t see him starting again for a while.
Of the rest, Lyanco I think was the best defender in a Saints shirt for many a year. Yan Valery seemed to have taken on a new lease if life. Stuart Armstrong seemed to be lacking zip. Adam Armstrong is fighting more and may yet come good. KWP was really trying hard to get back into a regular spot in the team. But I was proud of them all.
Re the penalties, if a good kick gets saved, that’s the way of it, so no blame attached to us going out on them. However I was surprised to see Will Smallbone so high up the list for one so inexperienced and was not surprised he cocked it up. Surely the likes of Salisu and KWP should have come above him in the kicking order.
But hey ho, it was still a really cracking performance.
The thing about Chelsea though is that they do let you play; but they are very quick and subtle so will tend not be out of possession for long, so It does make for a very entertaining and open game and so it proved tonight.
But surely, on this performance, the “sleep walking into the Championship “ brigade will have less to be concerned about…?
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by Boris1977 at 23:04:11

Good to see Long tuck his penalty away. Hopefully Armstrong putting his away will build a bit of confidence. Still drawing against a second string Chelsea though not a surprise is disappointing
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by ElijahK at 23:01:47

I do think we put out a great display today, but unfortunately just didn’t take our chances! As much as I do like Ralph, why did he bring on Walcott as he did bugger all and missed his penalty, but other than that I thought he was ok, as Long (surprisingly enough) was actually really decent.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by KriSaint at 23:00:02

Hugely impressed by Lyanco.
What a shame we didn't progress to the quarters. Very well done Saints (minus Walcott).
Bednarek out. Lyanco in. Sorry Jan B, but allowing Cornet to score to 2-2 on saturday, so easily, was it for me.
Heads held high. Bring on bloody Watford.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by smartjoe at 22:53:57

Ralf applied his usual sabotage to the team when he thinks we may win the game.....this time bringing on Walcott. Does the guy never learn from his mistakes?
He is just too proud and stubborn to listen to the fans and follow their advice.
I guess it is a waste of time getting him an assistant as he would always go his own way even though it has been proved time after time that it is a route to disaster.
We are doomed.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by Sadoldgit at 22:42:01

After that performance tonight I would be quite happy for Lyanco to replace Bednarek on Saturday. Can’t fault the commitment tonight and it’s a shame the pressure didn’t pay off at the end. With an important game coming up perhaps it was best that we didn’t play another 30 minutes but we could well have won it in extra time.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by saintmark1976 at 22:37:04

Ralph finds a new method of coming away with nothing after a good performance in normal time. On this occasion by allowing an out of form Walcott to take a penalty which to nobody’s surprise he duly misses, thus heaping pressure on Smallbone, a young guy who hasn’t played a competitive game for months.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Verdict
by dirk_doone at 22:27:10

"We should be proud of our team tonight" I agree until Walcott came on. The only time he touched the ball was to miss his penalty. Forster is a top class Premier League goalkeeper, whereas McCarthy is about League One standard. Unfortunately, Ralph will keep playing Walcott and McCarthy, which must be demoralisng for the other players and it's going to cost us a lot of points.

I like Ralph, He motivates the players and gets the best out of them but it's such a pity he has blind spots where team selection is concerned.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Preview
by Boris1977 at 21:51:09

BAU
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Southampton V Burnley The Verdict
by saintpete01 at 18:11:27

spot on saintmark1976 and braveheart
Sleepwalking to the championship
And Baffling selections

RALPH HUGGERS ARE GETTING SPLINTERS
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Preview
by underweststand at 16:24:09

If Ralph's idea to have two players for every position is to work, this is an opportunity to give a run-out to the "second-choice " players who according to logic... should be "a good as"
the normal Prem. first choic-ers together with a balance of the "regulars".

Looking at Kri Saint's prediction (above) it's as any, but I'd like to see if Ralph will venture in with any of the up-and-coming B team lads.
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Could Yan Valery Be Converted To A Centre Back
by underweststand at 15:55:16

An interesting question (Nick) coming in between two games and one that I have never seriously considered. There are quite a few examples of players changing position and becoming more successful - aside from the legendary * Joe Payne.
Saints have had a few , and perhaps the best example was Gareth Bale who started with Saints as a left back, before moving up front with Spurs and Real and netted a hatful of goals, and Rickie Lambert spent his early League career playing in a midfield role.

BUT the question was related to Valery - wasn't it? Clearly he was seldom Ralph's first choice at RB and now even Walker-Peters is behind Livramento in the queue - but as a centre back? Not sure if he's quite tall enough for that role and a bit "slim" to go up against some of the tall, heavyweight Prem. strikers. Admittedly, he does have a bit of pace on him, (unlike some of our current defenders), but he isn't my idea of a good CB - even in an emergency. Perhaps we should have a thread for contributors to come up with their suggested positional changes in our squad.
....AND oh yes ...* Joe Payne. Never a Saints player but started his pre WW2 career with Luton as " a half-back " ..(midfielder to our younger readers) and when an injury crisis hit Luton in April 1936, their manager's Plan B was to play Joe at CF.... where he scored 10 goals as Luton whopped Southend 12-0. (That one is still in the record books).

Judging by our recent goal drought, perhaps Ralph can come-up with a brainwave and move someone around to help us beat Chelsea.
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Preview
by KriSaint at 15:53:46









I suggest:

Forster
Valery
Bednarek
Lyanco
KWP
Romeu
Diallo
S Armstrong
Tella
A Armstrong
Adams

COYS! <3
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Southampton At Chelsea The Carabao Cup Preview
by beynali73 at 14:45:42

This should be one of the games where the tinkerman will be like Syd Barret in Amsterdam. Lets see what rabbits he pulls out for ths one. Big Frasier up front would be an exciting proposition and certainly fits with his thinking outside of the asylum selection process.
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Could Yan Valery Be Converted To A Centre Back
by beynali73 at 14:40:05

How about big Frasier as a target man?
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Could Yan Valery Be Converted To A Centre Back
by Ali_Diarea at 13:42:08

I’d like to see us try three at the back (but not tonight!) so that we can pack the midfield and have two ‘proper’ strikers in a 3-5-2 formation.

This would also allow us to accommodate Romeu, JWP and either Diallo or S Arsmstrong in the centre with Tino on the right and Redmond on the left.

The problem as always is not enough quality at CB and Ralph too inflexible with his formation and tactics.
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