Flags 18:04 - Oct 19 with 5357 views | Treforys_Jack | Not had a good flag thread for a while, there were 2 flags behind me on Sunday, a Swansea "loyal" on the Northern Ireland flag and a Union Jack with Swansea loyal or similar with London is our capital on it. Both lasted about 10mins before stewards removed them. What would be the cause of removal, pretty sure a few around me complained about them, one guy was going nuts asking them to be pulled down. Anyone else see these ? | | | | |
Flags on 18:08 - Oct 19 with 2572 views | KeithHaynes | Not sure why stewards would be involved in taking down a Union Jack. That’s decidedly dodgy territory regardless of your viewpoint.
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Flags on 18:13 - Oct 19 with 2552 views | Fireboy2 |
Flags on 18:08 - Oct 19 by KeithHaynes | Not sure why stewards would be involved in taking down a Union Jack. That’s decidedly dodgy territory regardless of your viewpoint.
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Well it happened Keith and rightly so imo. Well the unionist flag deserved removing, not so much the union flag as we have english swans fans. Imo its disingenuous if you put a union flag up as most of Jacks are Welsh and we are a Welsh team and the ulster flag is well out of order for obvious reasons. Just my opinion btw. [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 18:16]
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Flags on 18:30 - Oct 19 with 2516 views | Treforys_Jack | It got quite heated at one point, I thought originally that it was because it was over advertising but they left a Welsh flag up, so assume it was either breaking some guidelines or some fans complained. | | | |
Flags on 18:36 - Oct 19 with 2503 views | KeithHaynes |
Flags on 18:13 - Oct 19 by Fireboy2 | Well it happened Keith and rightly so imo. Well the unionist flag deserved removing, not so much the union flag as we have english swans fans. Imo its disingenuous if you put a union flag up as most of Jacks are Welsh and we are a Welsh team and the ulster flag is well out of order for obvious reasons. Just my opinion btw. [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 18:16]
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I agree on the politics, but removing a Union Jack is very dodgy territory. And disrespectful. It goes far further than upsetting people. I noticed mind another Union flag with Swansea on it throughout the game. From what I hear the stewards were best advised not to remove it due to the consequences of potential disorder.
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Flags on 18:38 - Oct 19 with 2494 views | Fireboy2 |
Flags on 18:36 - Oct 19 by KeithHaynes | I agree on the politics, but removing a Union Jack is very dodgy territory. And disrespectful. It goes far further than upsetting people. I noticed mind another Union flag with Swansea on it throughout the game. From what I hear the stewards were best advised not to remove it due to the consequences of potential disorder.
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As I've said Keith most swans fans are Welsh so it's quite disrespectful, but that's just my opinion. | | | |
Flags on 18:40 - Oct 19 with 2489 views | KeithHaynes |
Flags on 18:38 - Oct 19 by Fireboy2 | As I've said Keith most swans fans are Welsh so it's quite disrespectful, but that's just my opinion. |
I did add something to my post, regarding the actual union flag. Had one on my uniform in the military for years, nobody ever tried to remove it 😉
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Flags on 18:45 - Oct 19 with 2476 views | pencoedjack |
Flags on 18:38 - Oct 19 by Fireboy2 | As I've said Keith most swans fans are Welsh so it's quite disrespectful, but that's just my opinion. |
Not being disrespectful Ed but a lot of Swans deem themselves as British as well. | | | |
Flags on 18:45 - Oct 19 with 2475 views | KeithHaynes | Just been sent this. Seemingly the content on the union flag could be seen as the issue. Unlike the others in the ground. I tend to agree. | |
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Flags on 18:47 - Oct 19 with 2469 views | Dr_Winston | Unless it's something deeply distateful like an ISIS flag, Swastika or Hammer and Sickle the stewards have no business pulling any flag down. The hysteria over the subject is ridiculous and closed minded. | |
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Flags on 18:51 - Oct 19 with 2457 views | pencoedjack |
Flags on 18:47 - Oct 19 by Dr_Winston | Unless it's something deeply distateful like an ISIS flag, Swastika or Hammer and Sickle the stewards have no business pulling any flag down. The hysteria over the subject is ridiculous and closed minded. |
Indeed I can imagine the type who would complain one posts on here 👠| | | |
Flags on 18:58 - Oct 19 with 2444 views | Boundy |
Flags on 18:45 - Oct 19 by KeithHaynes | Just been sent this. Seemingly the content on the union flag could be seen as the issue. Unlike the others in the ground. I tend to agree. |
IMO the left hand flag is possibly more contentious with its reference to the Red Hand Commandos . No need for either to be up but each to their own | |
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Flags on 19:10 - Oct 19 with 2428 views | Chief | Saw the incident myself. Leaving aside the politics, the people that put the flags there weren't seated anywhere near those chairs, so I don't see why the people who do sit there should have to put up with having them there if they didn't want them there. | |
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Flags on 19:19 - Oct 19 with 2409 views | 73__73 |
Flags on 18:13 - Oct 19 by Fireboy2 | Well it happened Keith and rightly so imo. Well the unionist flag deserved removing, not so much the union flag as we have english swans fans. Imo its disingenuous if you put a union flag up as most of Jacks are Welsh and we are a Welsh team and the ulster flag is well out of order for obvious reasons. Just my opinion btw. [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 18:16]
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You don’t even know what flag it was lol 😂 | |
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Flags on 19:21 - Oct 19 with 2406 views | 73__73 |
Flags on 18:38 - Oct 19 by Fireboy2 | As I've said Keith most swans fans are Welsh so it's quite disrespectful, but that's just my opinion. |
Maybe Swansea should play in the Welsh league then | |
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Flags on 19:24 - Oct 19 with 2398 views | 73__73 | Nothing wrong with those flag. All perfectly legal. | |
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Flags on 19:25 - Oct 19 with 2394 views | Boundy |
Flags on 19:24 - Oct 19 by 73__73 | Nothing wrong with those flag. All perfectly legal. |
I don't believe anyone said they weren't , maybe distasteful to some though | |
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Flags on 19:27 - Oct 19 with 2391 views | Chief |
Flags on 19:24 - Oct 19 by 73__73 | Nothing wrong with those flag. All perfectly legal. |
Probably fall into the category of containing politically motivated language though (rightly or wrongly) and would probably be against stadium / league rules. | |
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Flags on 19:29 - Oct 19 with 2385 views | 73__73 |
Flags on 18:58 - Oct 19 by Boundy | IMO the left hand flag is possibly more contentious with its reference to the Red Hand Commandos . No need for either to be up but each to their own |
Red hand commandos were a loyalist terrorist group . What has that got to do with that particular flag ? Would it be ok to ban the Irish flag, because of the ira ? [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 19:32]
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Flags on 19:31 - Oct 19 with 2378 views | 73__73 |
Flags on 19:25 - Oct 19 by Boundy | I don't believe anyone said they weren't , maybe distasteful to some though |
The welsh flag maybe disrespectful to some too | |
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Flags on 19:33 - Oct 19 with 2367 views | Chief |
Flags on 19:31 - Oct 19 by 73__73 | The welsh flag maybe disrespectful to some too |
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Flags on 19:33 - Oct 19 with 2365 views | Flashberryjack |
Flags on 18:45 - Oct 19 by pencoedjack | Not being disrespectful Ed but a lot of Swans deem themselves as British as well. |
Totally agree, I regard myself as Welsh, but also proud to be part of the UK, stronger together and all that. | |
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Flags on 19:36 - Oct 19 with 2360 views | 73__73 |
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There you go then. The Ulster flag has as much right to be on show as any other flag. | |
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Flags on 19:40 - Oct 19 with 2344 views | Chief |
Flags on 19:36 - Oct 19 by 73__73 | There you go then. The Ulster flag has as much right to be on show as any other flag. |
A plain Northern Ireland flag maybe [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 19:40]
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Flags on 19:48 - Oct 19 with 2307 views | Chief | Do the Swans have many Northern Irish fans that attend games then? [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 19:49]
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Flags on 19:49 - Oct 19 with 2301 views | 73__73 |
Flags on 19:40 - Oct 19 by Chief | A plain Northern Ireland flag maybe [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 19:40]
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And what does that look like ? | |
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