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Now we see a serious situation in Iraq where Hamas chums are blitzing non Muslims and have taken power.galloway yesterday suggested Bradford be declared an Israeli free zone whereby anyone at all connected or coming from Israel was banned .
This guy re kind he s a humanist? Yet not a word on the biggest threat to all of us
Christ, back in 2007 Fatah attacked a university - HEY FOLKS, A CIVILIAN TARGET YOU CRITICISE ISRAEL FOR GOING AFTER - which was known as a Hamas bastion. 22 dead, 220 injured.
The hatred between the two is ideological amongst other things. Open hatred may have subsided at the moment, common enemy and all that, but you've one side that has been proven to be corrupt but moderate, another all fundamentalist. Any peace between those two will be uneasy and at worst short lived. Any Palestinian state would be in a civil war within years.
IT IS a apart of Hamas credo. Every woman is owned by a man be it father husband or brother. Its also a case of sunni, shia, shiit and how Allah is worshipped and his prophet Mohammed followed. .Its why muslims are not to be trusted as nobody knows who is who, yet reading this thread ISRAEL is the demon to end all demons.
We are all being distracted from who is threatening us all
IT IS a apart of Hamas credo. Every woman is owned by a man be it father husband or brother. Its also a case of sunni, shia, shiit and how Allah is worshipped and his prophet Mohammed followed. .Its why muslims are not to be trusted as nobody knows who is who, yet reading this thread ISRAEL is the demon to end all demons.
We are all being distracted from who is threatening us all
What a load of bollox
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Christ, back in 2007 Fatah attacked a university - HEY FOLKS, A CIVILIAN TARGET YOU CRITICISE ISRAEL FOR GOING AFTER - which was known as a Hamas bastion. 22 dead, 220 injured.
The hatred between the two is ideological amongst other things. Open hatred may have subsided at the moment, common enemy and all that, but you've one side that has been proven to be corrupt but moderate, another all fundamentalist. Any peace between those two will be uneasy and at worst short lived. Any Palestinian state would be in a civil war within years.
Phew. What a relief Israel is there to keep the peace eh.
It wouldn't be WWIII. Plenty of barking dogs in the region who wouldn't act. There's that confusion again, that all "Arabs" love Palestinians. The hatred of "Jews" is far greater than the love of "Palestinians".
Al Jazeera published the list of names Hamas released of the dead. Ignoring those names Hamas conveniently added twice, the biggest demographic was male, 20-39. Which fits in with the pattern of Israel attempting to minimise civilian casualties.
Much like Jenin - you remember that? Where one side claimed the fatalities were tens of thousands. Then stated it was thousands then the figure became hundreds. The UN figures was from memory 54. Of which half were armed combatents. I recall at the time people proclaiming it as "genocide", "massacre" when the reality was slightly more mundane.
Never accused you of supporting Hamas. Doubt you would, you don't seem the type to. The party with the ability to stop the madness is Hamas. Recognise the existence of Israel, drop the commitment to murder Jews from their charter, stop firing rockets each and every day.
Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. Hamas et al destroyed facilities, gardens left behind because they wanted nothing Jewish there. Can't reason with Hamas or some of their PR. For example, a journalist wrote a moving account of how her uncle and some of his family were killed by a rocket strike. Said journalist conveniently failed to mention her uncle was a high up in Hamas... context is everything.
Israel have agreed to ceasefires numerous times. Each one has led to rocket attacks from Hamas breaking that ceasefire. Based upon that, which side has the inclination for peace?
This started before Hamas began firing the rockets oe even before Hamas was formed
It wouldn't be WWIII. Plenty of barking dogs in the region who wouldn't act. There's that confusion again, that all "Arabs" love Palestinians. The hatred of "Jews" is far greater than the love of "Palestinians".
Al Jazeera published the list of names Hamas released of the dead. Ignoring those names Hamas conveniently added twice, the biggest demographic was male, 20-39. Which fits in with the pattern of Israel attempting to minimise civilian casualties.
Much like Jenin - you remember that? Where one side claimed the fatalities were tens of thousands. Then stated it was thousands then the figure became hundreds. The UN figures was from memory 54. Of which half were armed combatents. I recall at the time people proclaiming it as "genocide", "massacre" when the reality was slightly more mundane.
Never accused you of supporting Hamas. Doubt you would, you don't seem the type to. The party with the ability to stop the madness is Hamas. Recognise the existence of Israel, drop the commitment to murder Jews from their charter, stop firing rockets each and every day.
Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. Hamas et al destroyed facilities, gardens left behind because they wanted nothing Jewish there. Can't reason with Hamas or some of their PR. For example, a journalist wrote a moving account of how her uncle and some of his family were killed by a rocket strike. Said journalist conveniently failed to mention her uncle was a high up in Hamas... context is everything.
Israel have agreed to ceasefires numerous times. Each one has led to rocket attacks from Hamas breaking that ceasefire. Based upon that, which side has the inclination for peace?
This.
p.s. I was led to this thread by a cowardly lil f*ck called Mart6 who has started down arrowing all my posts but doesn't have the balls to debate
this thread has now gone into racism or religion ism
you missed out Nigeria & many African countries where atrocious wars are going on every day mostly over religion .some worse than Palestine. There is evil going on all over the world .
Palestine want their land back & to be free .
It was the Jewish homeland first. They were chased out by the Romans and Arab Muslims over centuries. After hundreds of years of anti-semitism in Europe and the rise of anti-semitism in Germany a group of Jews decided that they wanted their country back, the UK governed Palestine then and sought a deal with the Arabs to hand Israel back to the Jews in exchange for British support for Arab Nationalism. After we helped rid them of the Ottoman Empire they welched on the deal, pretending they didn't understand what they had agreed too.... Then Hitler and the Germans killed 6 million Jews in WWII, the Zionist movement grew, and they did take it back.
They have their land back and they are free. They deserve it.
Muslims around the World need to get over it...they got away with taking Jerusalem and Jewish land, they got away with persecuting Jews in Islamic lands for hundreds and hundreds of years. The boot is on the other foot now. Good.
...and Muslims in Israel are still treated better than Jews and Christians are treated in Islamic lands.
You can call for boycotting Israel for invading and occupying and killing people, that's fine and I probably agree.
What about our good friends Qatar and Saudi Arabia funding ISIS, the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda purging the Kaffir from the middle east.
I would like to see a Qatar and Saudi Boycott please, I just don't see the outrage.
Does anyone agree that if Qatar and Saudi were Jewish and funding "Zionists" to roam around targeting non Jews and saying be a Jew or we Kill you. Would there be a lesser or greater level of protest.
Even Barca a so called so anti fascist icon have Qatar on their shirts FFS.
Every country should be treated equally, or are some more equal than others
again you are spot on.
Where is the outrage from the European Left about the naked antisemitism that pervades Islamic society and culture? ...and it has always been there from the birth of Islam, anybody who says that pre-Israel the Jews and the Arabs "lived in peace" in Palestine is a straight up liar... unless you regard "living in peace" as being suppressed and treated as second class citizens.
Here is a quote from the Mayor of Ankara, capital of the supposedly most moderate Islamic state Turkey; In early July 2014 Gökçek supported the antisemitic tweet made by Turkish singer Yıldız Tilbe: "God bless Hitler, it was even too few what he did to the Jews, he was right" and "The Jews will be destroyed by Muslims, in the name of Allah, not much time left for it be done". Gökçek backed the singer’s Gaza tweets, retweeting most of her comments except the one on Hitler, calling them; “full of intelligence.” He also replied to the tweet, saying "I applaud you".
This is the kind of shite the Jews have been up against in the Middle East for 1400 years. If you ever wonder why anti-semitism is prevalent in Islamic societies just read the Quran...and then read up on Islamic history.
It was the Jewish homeland first. They were chased out by the Romans and Arab Muslims over centuries. After hundreds of years of anti-semitism in Europe and the rise of anti-semitism in Germany a group of Jews decided that they wanted their country back, the UK governed Palestine then and sought a deal with the Arabs to hand Israel back to the Jews in exchange for British support for Arab Nationalism. After we helped rid them of the Ottoman Empire they welched on the deal, pretending they didn't understand what they had agreed too.... Then Hitler and the Germans killed 6 million Jews in WWII, the Zionist movement grew, and they did take it back.
They have their land back and they are free. They deserve it.
Muslims around the World need to get over it...they got away with taking Jerusalem and Jewish land, they got away with persecuting Jews in Islamic lands for hundreds and hundreds of years. The boot is on the other foot now. Good.
...and Muslims in Israel are still treated better than Jews and Christians are treated in Islamic lands.
It was Jewish until about 2500 years ago. BTW it wasn't Muslims who drove them out. They didn't get invented until a lot later. It was the Babylonians. If you'd like to post dogshit through Babylonian letterboxes, don't bother. They don't exist anymore.During that time lot's of other people ruled it. People like the Romans. Muslims didn't come along before they were invented about 1300 years ago.
I assume you're leading campaigns to have other historical invasions reversered?
Native Americans? Mauris? Australian aboriginies? Celts?
Seeing as your so upset about the loss of a land thousands of years ago I bet you must be going absolutely mental about these much more recent thefts?
Nah. I just like the ones where I can blame muslims. Even though they didn't exist. F*cking muslims!
Where is the outrage from the European Left about the naked antisemitism that pervades Islamic society and culture? ...and it has always been there from the birth of Islam, anybody who says that pre-Israel the Jews and the Arabs "lived in peace" in Palestine is a straight up liar... unless you regard "living in peace" as being suppressed and treated as second class citizens.
Here is a quote from the Mayor of Ankara, capital of the supposedly most moderate Islamic state Turkey; In early July 2014 Gökçek supported the antisemitic tweet made by Turkish singer Yıldız Tilbe: "God bless Hitler, it was even too few what he did to the Jews, he was right" and "The Jews will be destroyed by Muslims, in the name of Allah, not much time left for it be done". Gökçek backed the singer’s Gaza tweets, retweeting most of her comments except the one on Hitler, calling them; “full of intelligence.” He also replied to the tweet, saying "I applaud you".
This is the kind of shite the Jews have been up against in the Middle East for 1400 years. If you ever wonder why anti-semitism is prevalent in Islamic societies just read the Quran...and then read up on Islamic history.
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And would you like me to post lots of examples of Israelis saying lot's of nasty things about muslims?
Like IDF rabbis saying rape is ok because the Torah says so? Just before they are going into battle in one of their manufactured little wars?
If you want to get into a tit for tat exchange of Muslim officials and Jewish officials I can do it all day.
One is a mayor in Turkey who says nasty things about Jews. The other is a rabbi employed by the IDF who uses the Torah to legitimise rape for soldiers going into war..
One is a mayor in Turkey who says nasty things about Jews. The other is a rabbi employed by the IDF who uses the Torah to legitimise rape for soldiers going into war..
We honestly could do this all day.
Hoy vey! You've got some chutzpah for a goy.
Seriously though much like the rabid right and loony left there's wrongdoing on both sides.
Galloway is talking about the brutal way Israel is acting in the middle east, just murder murder of civilians and children in palestine and their living conditions are horrendous like Syria just ruins of buildings 2 hours of electricity a day lack of water a massive crisis for the palestines.
Galloway is talking about the brutal way Israel is acting in the middle east, just murder murder of civilians and children in palestine and their living conditions are horrendous like Syria just ruins of buildings 2 hours of electricity a day lack of water a massive crisis for the palestines.
Galloway is talking about the brutal way Israel is acting in the middle east, just murder murder of civilians and children in palestine and their living conditions are horrendous like Syria just ruins of buildings 2 hours of electricity a day lack of water a massive crisis for the palestines.
was that before or after he saluted saddam and his indefatigability??
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