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The Future, The "Investment", The Trust & Raising Awareness-My work here is done 13:38 - Dec 21 with 7298 views_

Where are we with all this?

Over the last few months we have been drip fed very worrying and alarming news. In fact, only a relatively short period of time ago a thread started by Westx who had suggested potential American "investment" was met with complete disbelief and derision.

Most of us, apart from the odd [legitimate] gripe here and there were happy plodding on, with what we all now to a certain degree feel is our right - to be challenging the best teams in the land and world on a level footing and getting massive credit and plaudits for doing so.

We have always been the club that did things differently. In fairness, there wasn't a lot else we could have done, we didn't have the resources to splash out big and apart from the odd, relatively small, directors loan, we lived within our means.

I am not going to go trawling through the net to find Jenkins' sound bites of which they would be by the barrow full on our prudent and careful fiscal strategy. Suffice to say the Directors of SCFC were and still are very proud of what they have achieved. Even more suffice to say is that we, as fans, say and feel the same.

There is a big white elephant in the room however, at Swansea City FC, literally in Board meetings at the club, and that is us - Yep, pretty much every single one of us, because not just for the sake of the usual cliche trollied out that no club can survive without its fans, it was literally the case with us. Yes, "us", like Kevin Johns stated at Wembley three years ago.... THIS IS "OUR" DAY!!!

It was as things turned out but it's always been "our" club. For years and years we spent in the lower leagues and no matter where we were or whenever that was, if I or your good selves had to talk about the Swans with anyone we'd meet, it was always with a very matter of fact and passionate royal "we"!!

Who is "we" they may have asked and even more proudly responded with Swansea City FC the greatest team in football.... And yep, this was actually meant, even though we may have been fifteenth in Division 4 at the time.

Owners and chairmen have come and gone but still we stuck by our club. For years and years we did not have a pot to piss in and whatever money the club did get coming in nobody really could be sure if it was being accounted for totally in the best interests of the football club.

The very same Directors and Chairman who sit on our Board today would have been the very same to have questioned the motives of anyone that is in the privileged position of being the guardians of our local club.

When Petty was ousted and the never before seen events ensued with the rallying call of the Jack Army and Tesco bags full of used notes, bucket after bucket loads of hard earned coins and more than a little enterprise and endeavour, everyone swore at the time to never again be in a position like we were back then.

The football history since then is just too magical to actually believe it happened to us all. The same people among us now, the same faces I have seen over 30 years plus in varying different market towns, shitty stadiums, service stations etc, who still do and who always will, refer to us with the royal "we", well we now say it with even more vigour and belief and look, we told you all back then we were the greatest team in football and we weren't lying!!!

So let's get things very clear because I am not a fans leader and have never wanted to be one, no matter what some want to accuse me of. I am a dyed in the wool Jack and bearing in mind a home game for me was 25 miles away, I have more than earned a right to speak out in a public forum if I feel standards are slipping and we are potentially slipping back to old and dangerous ways.

Has anyone learned anything about the club in the last few weeks?

Maybe that the club is actually only 50/50 away from being sold from underneath us?

Or maybe how we have certain individuals who are more than tied into the club on a personal level when perhaps it's just not good practice to be in that conflicting of interests position?

That our Directors' businesses have been paid huge amounts for work they must have invoiced the club for?

When and how Leigh bought his shares in the club and whether that was indeed the darkest hour of the Trust and whether or not lessons were learned from it?

I will meet Leigh as he's apparently asked to meet me, not because he's singled me out as a fans leader, more probably in light of the above questions I have been asking on a public forum. A public forum on the club we all love and a chance to spread more transparency to a wider audience so we can all discuss the matters and issues we are raising.

I have no doubt Leigh Dineen is a good bloke at heart. I don't agree with what he did when he bought his shares but he has told me nothing sinister happened which of course at this moment in time I believe. I don't agree with his defensiveness when fans have legitimate concerns about the department he runs and I don't think he comes out and apologises when mistakes clearly happen and cost us.

I also feel the Trust have not really gone into battle for the fans and I also strongly believe the second largest shareholder has the weakest voice in board meetings - and yes, that's us the fans. I also don't like the idea of our current supporters director having a personal business interest in winning tenders as I don't honestly feel that is fair on him or us,

I would like our club to remain a part of us but from now, an even bigger part of us. Like I said a few days ago - look to Germany not America!

The Premier Legue money due to us every year is just as much ours as theirs.

Do not let some foreign money man come in to our club and take all this away from us.

Leigh, get ready with some honest answers and look me in the eye when doing so.

SCFC - ONE LOVE

[Post edited 21 Dec 2014 13:50]

You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
Poll: With what we've seen since June, Potter in, players out etc, are the Americans

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The Future, The "Investment", The Trust & Raising Awareness-My work here is done on 21:01 - Dec 23 with 671 viewsperchrockjack

So ,posts regurgitated from the vaults .

Meanwhile, our squad is pitiful and manager feckless .

But, it seems the Trust is to blame .

Well no, it's the guy who selects players .nobody else. Now, we have to jettison this chap , bring in a commercial professional and a CEO to revive our club.

Alladyce going to palace shows just how cretinous a chairman we have.

We have and ate fookn up.


It's carrying on, yet , we squabble as to how it came about.

It has, now move the feck on and Yanks, do the right thing NOW

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The Future, The "Investment", The Trust & Raising Awareness-My work here is done on 21:13 - Dec 23 with 645 viewsCooperman

The Future, The "Investment", The Trust & Raising Awareness-My work here is done on 20:20 - Dec 23 by Uxbridge

Chris mun, it's Christmas. I don't know why you've chosen today for your latest barrage but I've got no interest in joining in. Last post from me. Take that however you want, my family are coming first this weekend.

It's clearly wasn't? How is that so? You can't substantiate that as those in attendance could attest. Not sure why you've segued into HC payments which are a separate issue, but I found out about the details about that as part of the governance review.


You would have been better off not answering at all instead of using "it's Christmas". You'll need another excuse in a week or two.

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The Future, The "Investment", The Trust & Raising Awareness-My work here is done on 22:30 - Feb 16 with 352 views_

Great opening post from the payroll

You're all out of time....the past was yours but the future's mine.
Poll: With what we've seen since June, Potter in, players out etc, are the Americans

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