| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? 22:12 - Oct 25 with 3452 views | vetchonian |
I understand people being confused and angry regarding HC resumeration but why all this vitriol to the Trust
Without the Trust SCFC may not have been here for us to enjoy the last 14 years.
Whilst HC may have "benefited" financially I cannot see what the other persons who have donated time have gained?
Maybe I am missing something but being a committee member /officer of a voluntary organisation is a thankless ss task often putting in lots of hours for no reward but lots of critisiscm.
The bigger picture is we could lose the club we love not because the Trust let us down it appears they were partly responsible for the scuppering of the first sale which is why the board kept the, out of the loop this time.
It appears there were some issues which the Trust sought to address hence the governance documents.
Why now as a fan base do we want to have a mega internal conflict when what we are getting angry about is in the past?
But it appears that there has been an undercurrent of hatred towards the Trust from the beginning and now those behind it are milking it......why. |  |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:17 - Oct 25 with 2399 views | Highjack |
It's obvious who it is |  |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:17 - Oct 25 with 2391 views | JackFish |
He's the archetypal keyboard warrior, always shows up on here and on the trust facebook page when something isn't to his liking, but never shows up at the fans forums or other events. He's quite funny really. |  | | |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:23 - Oct 25 with 2330 views | TheResurrection |
Because the Trust has been lying to us for years and has allowed the sale of our football club to happen under their noses.
If course the guy on £40k a year and with a personal business contract with the club swore blind he didn't know f any takeover.
for that year..... a whole year of negotiations, Americans in the Directors box home and away
the guy socialising with the selling Directors, getting pissed Saturday nights with them
he knew nothing, therefore the Trust knew nothing
Not even when we were all tipped off this was imminent with the fact Noel and Moore's had only just left town,.
Who was he actually reporting to?
Was it the Club who were maintaining his standard of living?
Or the fans that could offer nothing but hope?
You decide. |  |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:25 - Oct 25 with 2314 views | vetchonian |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:23 - Oct 25 by TheResurrection |
Because the Trust has been lying to us for years and has allowed the sale of our football club to happen under their noses.
If course the guy on £40k a year and with a personal business contract with the club swore blind he didn't know f any takeover.
for that year..... a whole year of negotiations, Americans in the Directors box home and away
the guy socialising with the selling Directors, getting pissed Saturday nights with them
he knew nothing, therefore the Trust knew nothing
Not even when we were all tipped off this was imminent with the fact Noel and Moore's had only just left town,.
Who was he actually reporting to?
Was it the Club who were maintaining his standard of living?
Or the fans that could offer nothing but hope?
You decide. |
Ok question for you why have you never sought to get elected to the trust committee and change things? | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:25 - Oct 25 with 2313 views | jacabertawe |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:23 - Oct 25 by TheResurrection |
Because the Trust has been lying to us for years and has allowed the sale of our football club to happen under their noses.
If course the guy on £40k a year and with a personal business contract with the club swore blind he didn't know f any takeover.
for that year..... a whole year of negotiations, Americans in the Directors box home and away
the guy socialising with the selling Directors, getting pissed Saturday nights with them
he knew nothing, therefore the Trust knew nothing
Not even when we were all tipped off this was imminent with the fact Noel and Moore's had only just left town,.
Who was he actually reporting to?
Was it the Club who were maintaining his standard of living?
Or the fans that could offer nothing but hope?
You decide. |
I didn't hear you put all your recent comments/allegations to the recent Trust meeting......... |  |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:26 - Oct 25 with 2293 views | TheResurrection |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:25 - Oct 25 by vetchonian |
Ok question for you why have you never sought to get elected to the trust committee and change things? |
Oh FFS | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:26 - Oct 25 with 2299 views | dameedna |
To be reasonable though my partner also asked why the silence during the shareholders sellout?
Bit late now.
Move on |  | | |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:27 - Oct 25 with 2289 views | TheResurrection |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:25 - Oct 25 by jacabertawe |
I didn't hear you put all your recent comments/allegations to the recent Trust meeting......... |
These are all my recent allegations.... and have been for years | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:29 - Oct 25 with 2263 views | vetchonian |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:27 - Oct 25 by TheResurrection |
These are all my recent allegations.... and have been for years |
Again so why have you never sought to get elected and change it?
Turn up at forums/meetings and raise these claims there? | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:33 - Oct 25 with 2216 views | TheResurrection |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:29 - Oct 25 by vetchonian |
Again so why have you never sought to get elected and change it?
Turn up at forums/meetings and raise these claims there? |
Why should anyone want to jump in bed with such a group of people?
They have lost our club
Lied to us
Been involved with personal business interests sticking 2 fingers up to the fans.
Get them out and start again. If there is still to be a Trust after all this, if they can broker a deal for their shares, I will gladly stand for the election of the phoenix Trust. | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:33 - Oct 25 with 2195 views | Darran |
Here he is with his gang.
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:35 - Oct 25 with 2198 views | JackFish |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:33 - Oct 25 by TheResurrection |
Why should anyone want to jump in bed with such a group of people?
They have lost our club
Lied to us
Been involved with personal business interests sticking 2 fingers up to the fans.
Get them out and start again. If there is still to be a Trust after all this, if they can broker a deal for their shares, I will gladly stand for the election of the phoenix Trust. |
If the Trust has failed the club so badly why don't you start your own Phoenix Trust. With blackjack, and hookers. | | | |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:35 - Oct 25 with 2192 views | vetchonian |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:33 - Oct 25 by TheResurrection |
Why should anyone want to jump in bed with such a group of people?
They have lost our club
Lied to us
Been involved with personal business interests sticking 2 fingers up to the fans.
Get them out and start again. If there is still to be a Trust after all this, if they can broker a deal for their shares, I will gladly stand for the election of the phoenix Trust. |
So where were you in the beginning when these guys threw their hats in the ring?
Why weren't you shouting from the rooftops of how we were being shafted in Feb and March? | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:37 - Oct 25 with 2164 views | blueytheblue |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:35 - Oct 25 by JackFish |
If the Trust has failed the club so badly why don't you start your own Phoenix Trust. With blackjack, and hookers. |
"Trust 2016 - Making Trusts great again"? | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:40 - Oct 25 with 2138 views | vetchonian |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:37 - Oct 25 by blueytheblue |
"Trust 2016 - Making Trusts great again"? |
There you go resurrection we now have our eastern cousins taking the p**s .....happy now? | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:43 - Oct 25 with 2118 views | blueytheblue |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:40 - Oct 25 by vetchonian |
There you go resurrection we now have our eastern cousins taking the p**s .....happy now? |
Point of order - I wasn't taking the p*ss out of you guys or the Trust... | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 23:05 - Oct 25 with 2023 views | Loyal |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 22:17 - Oct 25 by Highjack |
It's obvious who it is |
Resurrected like a second coming ðŸ‘
I'm going to say this. Chris doesn't attend meetings and has stated the reason being he doesn't want to get in to bed with them. That's his choice, but after that there is little more he can do but chunter on to anyone who will listen. I'm surprised it took him this long to be reborn. Much of what he says will resonate with a few people, and maybe others who are easily led. He has little support, that much we do know.
But I will say this, Chris may well not attend trust meetings etc, but do not in any way think he is frightened or scared to face those he accuses, I can assure you he is not. And I will add he has been literally at times, fighting the Swansea cause for years, and ok, he isn't everybody's cup of tea. however away from this crusade of his which I disagree with he is a likeable and amiable bloke. A true Swans fan and a lifetime supporter.
I disagree almost entirely, but not on every matter with the way he has gone about his campaign, but then when I think about it there can never be a harmonious 100%. There will always be dissenters. It's the way. I also,would hate to think how he and his cohorts would have handled the past 6 months or so. Clearly differently, but to whose detriment ?
As I said, he is madness personified, a complete lunatic, and a likeable person to boot, don't underestimate him, nor anyone with his obvious love of our club and lifelong association. But also don't fear him, he is nuts, and this is what makes him so entertaining, we are not here for that long on this planet, and sometimex we just have to understand none of us are the same.
As I said 100% harmony is impossible. And better the devil you know eh ?
But FFS Chris, the resurrection ? 😂 Stone Roses or Jesus - or both ðŸ‘
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 23:08 - Oct 25 with 2007 views | TheResurrection |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 23:05 - Oct 25 by Loyal |
Resurrected like a second coming ðŸ‘
I'm going to say this. Chris doesn't attend meetings and has stated the reason being he doesn't want to get in to bed with them. That's his choice, but after that there is little more he can do but chunter on to anyone who will listen. I'm surprised it took him this long to be reborn. Much of what he says will resonate with a few people, and maybe others who are easily led. He has little support, that much we do know.
But I will say this, Chris may well not attend trust meetings etc, but do not in any way think he is frightened or scared to face those he accuses, I can assure you he is not. And I will add he has been literally at times, fighting the Swansea cause for years, and ok, he isn't everybody's cup of tea. however away from this crusade of his which I disagree with he is a likeable and amiable bloke. A true Swans fan and a lifetime supporter.
I disagree almost entirely, but not on every matter with the way he has gone about his campaign, but then when I think about it there can never be a harmonious 100%. There will always be dissenters. It's the way. I also,would hate to think how he and his cohorts would have handled the past 6 months or so. Clearly differently, but to whose detriment ?
As I said, he is madness personified, a complete lunatic, and a likeable person to boot, don't underestimate him, nor anyone with his obvious love of our club and lifelong association. But also don't fear him, he is nuts, and this is what makes him so entertaining, we are not here for that long on this planet, and sometimex we just have to understand none of us are the same.
As I said 100% harmony is impossible. And better the devil you know eh ?
But FFS Chris, the resurrection ? 😂 Stone Roses or Jesus - or both ðŸ‘
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This is the one | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 23:41 - Oct 25 with 1917 views | perchrockjack |
Folk me,it's back.
An abusive,cockwaving and loathsome poster.
Good fan. Really .
If he is an example of a swans fan then I'd rip my bollocks off and send them to aberdare.
He brought this site to its knees.
Not afraid. Neither am I . I don't see much to fear .
Greater things in life to fear like when a life changing illness appears before your very eyes.
That s fear. | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 23:49 - Oct 25 with 1891 views | Loyal |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 23:41 - Oct 25 by perchrockjack |
Folk me,it's back.
An abusive,cockwaving and loathsome poster.
Good fan. Really .
If he is an example of a swans fan then I'd rip my bollocks off and send them to aberdare.
He brought this site to its knees.
Not afraid. Neither am I . I don't see much to fear .
Greater things in life to fear like when a life changing illness appears before your very eyes.
That s fear. |
I never said he was a 'good fan'
And your talk of fear is misguided. You are talking about physical matters.
Best of luck with whatever it is you are on about again. | |
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| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 02:53 - Oct 26 with 1780 views | giantstoneater |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 23:05 - Oct 25 by Loyal |
Resurrected like a second coming ðŸ‘
I'm going to say this. Chris doesn't attend meetings and has stated the reason being he doesn't want to get in to bed with them. That's his choice, but after that there is little more he can do but chunter on to anyone who will listen. I'm surprised it took him this long to be reborn. Much of what he says will resonate with a few people, and maybe others who are easily led. He has little support, that much we do know.
But I will say this, Chris may well not attend trust meetings etc, but do not in any way think he is frightened or scared to face those he accuses, I can assure you he is not. And I will add he has been literally at times, fighting the Swansea cause for years, and ok, he isn't everybody's cup of tea. however away from this crusade of his which I disagree with he is a likeable and amiable bloke. A true Swans fan and a lifetime supporter.
I disagree almost entirely, but not on every matter with the way he has gone about his campaign, but then when I think about it there can never be a harmonious 100%. There will always be dissenters. It's the way. I also,would hate to think how he and his cohorts would have handled the past 6 months or so. Clearly differently, but to whose detriment ?
As I said, he is madness personified, a complete lunatic, and a likeable person to boot, don't underestimate him, nor anyone with his obvious love of our club and lifelong association. But also don't fear him, he is nuts, and this is what makes him so entertaining, we are not here for that long on this planet, and sometimex we just have to understand none of us are the same.
As I said 100% harmony is impossible. And better the devil you know eh ?
But FFS Chris, the resurrection ? 😂 Stone Roses or Jesus - or both ðŸ‘
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I`m glad you have the pleasure of knowing him Loyal but most of us don`t and it doesn't help his cause when he gleefully puts his loathing of the trust in his posts, its one thing to point out a wrong (if it is that) but to enjoy it and attack the trust in such a way is bad, the club is close to tearing itself apart with accusations and counter accusations surely a strong trust is a must if it all goes pear shaped for the Americans so why would he attempt to weaken the trust. Hopefully all this off field unrest will be sorted and we can all concentrate on our relegation fight. |  | | |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 07:27 - Oct 26 with 1655 views | dobjack2 |
Criticism is valid but too many personal agendas appear to be coming to the fore on social media.
Bottom line - once the pot of gold was lost when the trust helped scupper the first attempt at a share sale it is clear that a decision was made to exclude the trust from the next share sale attempt. Short of illegal surveillance of the sell outs I can see little that the trust could have done about it.
In our anger we are forgetting who our real targets should be and are turning in on ourselves making it easy for the new owners to dismiss us as an uncoordinated irrelevance.
Now is a time to put infighting to one side - I have not used the words draw a line- and get on with pulling together to get the best we can out of this. Those with personal or twisted agendas will not see the bigger picture as they are more interested in themselves than the club or supporters. I hope that those who can see the bigger picture can see how at this time we need to concentrate on our real targets. If we can't do that we end up as no better than the red and blue factions of our neighbours.
Divide and conquer makes it easy for our opponents- at the moment we are doing their job for them. | | | |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 07:44 - Oct 26 with 1617 views | costalotta |
if trust are meant to police the club, then who are meant to police the trust?
The fans of course. I don't know this Chris and clearly he seems to upset some. Tough!
With all the recent revelations, statements whether defending a position or attacking certain directors and actions of a few at the club the Trust have looked very naive indeed. Yes volunteers giving up their time they should be spending with their families but you'd have though that over 12 years the Trust should have grown, learnt and had new blood. Perhaps even, with the finance available get better qualified in certain roles. You know what I mean. Lots of fantastic work has been done by the Trust and no one can doubt that. But the single most important thing to us all fans is th running and longevity of our club. The Trust have been too passive that much is clear. Whether that is becuase of communication issues between trust board memebers I don't know but I find it incredible that the SD for example knew nothing. What makes that worse is the renumeratiln he receives and this is the final straw for many.
It's all well and good saying we didn't know and it was kept from us/me but that means they've (collectively) failed as a board to conduct their duties in this spect. At least from wher I am. Nice guys, yes I'm sure and Having met a two of three of them clearly they are, however it's not about being nice. And It's no good coming up with stock excuses we've heard on here and asking for silence as this will just maintain the status quo. I don't want to single anyone one out but the Trust have been outflanked yet again with all of this. We're appear to be loosing the shareholder battle, we are certainly loosing the media battle, we are in fighting, make up your own mind why, we are loosing faith and it looks like we might be loosing our club. |  | | |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 07:47 - Oct 26 with 1609 views | NeathJack |
| Who is resurrection and why have they such a downer on the trust? on 07:27 - Oct 26 by dobjack2 |
Criticism is valid but too many personal agendas appear to be coming to the fore on social media.
Bottom line - once the pot of gold was lost when the trust helped scupper the first attempt at a share sale it is clear that a decision was made to exclude the trust from the next share sale attempt. Short of illegal surveillance of the sell outs I can see little that the trust could have done about it.
In our anger we are forgetting who our real targets should be and are turning in on ourselves making it easy for the new owners to dismiss us as an uncoordinated irrelevance.
Now is a time to put infighting to one side - I have not used the words draw a line- and get on with pulling together to get the best we can out of this. Those with personal or twisted agendas will not see the bigger picture as they are more interested in themselves than the club or supporters. I hope that those who can see the bigger picture can see how at this time we need to concentrate on our real targets. If we can't do that we end up as no better than the red and blue factions of our neighbours.
Divide and conquer makes it easy for our opponents- at the moment we are doing their job for them. |
Great post. |  | | |
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