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Sorry if a ferdy, but in all the excitement, it appears to have been overlooked that Montero went off with what looked like a bad injury in the last match. Any news?
40k a week, get rid, hasnt and wont live up to expectations. too predictable, one trick pony
The frustrating thing is that the one-trick he has is blisteringly effective when he sets his mind to it - even against the best in the league.
He's very much a luxury player. Not really what you need in a scrap down the bottom. If we were strong and stable defensively and controlled the ball he'd be much more useful to us as an outlet to play behind the defence, but we're none of those things this season.
Keep him for the rest of the season and see what the next manager gets out of him; he's definitely in last chance saloon.
The frustrating thing is that the one-trick he has is blisteringly effective when he sets his mind to it - even against the best in the league.
He's very much a luxury player. Not really what you need in a scrap down the bottom. If we were strong and stable defensively and controlled the ball he'd be much more useful to us as an outlet to play behind the defence, but we're none of those things this season.
Keep him for the rest of the season and see what the next manager gets out of him; he's definitely in last chance saloon.
too weak, physically and confidence wise, he "ll be a great championship player, but PL to do it week in week out , its a no no.
I was wondering the same earlier today, so we obviously think alike (you have my sympathy).
A month eh? A month of this season 's Montero is no loss, but a month of a revitalised Montero under a new manager will be a bit of a miss. Still, when we sell Llorente like some fools want there'll be nobody to dink a cross into, so it won't make any difference whether he plays or not.
On the rare occasions he is the mood he is unplayable. If he played like that more often he wouldn't be with us.
He can be unplayable and one of our few creative players these days.
Personally I don't think having Taylor behind him helps. Taylor doesn't do his job properly and takes it out on Montero, screaming at him often. Montero spends the game looking miserable and barely even celebrates when he put in the assist/cross for a goal. Strengthening our back four should improve the confidence of our midfield/attack too.
He can be unplayable and one of our few creative players these days.
Personally I don't think having Taylor behind him helps. Taylor doesn't do his job properly and takes it out on Montero, screaming at him often. Montero spends the game looking miserable and barely even celebrates when he put in the assist/cross for a goal. Strengthening our back four should improve the confidence of our midfield/attack too.
Normally a stick up for Montero, but I wouldn't say it's Taylor's fault he has been poor this season. Not really sure of a way to put it, but West Brom away this year was one of the thickest performances of a footballer I have seen. All the pace in the world, but refuses to take the ball anywhere other than to feet, even though a simple clip in behind was always on, which Taylor was screaming for him to make the run may I add.
Still though, wouldn't be selling him in January, still the only winger who can put a decent cross in the box at the club, even though he doesn't do it nowhere near enough. That's how bad we are on the flanks.
I was wondering the same earlier today, so we obviously think alike (you have my sympathy).
A month eh? A month of this season 's Montero is no loss, but a month of a revitalised Montero under a new manager will be a bit of a miss. Still, when we sell Llorente like some fools want there'll be nobody to dink a cross into, so it won't make any difference whether he plays or not.
I think it is shame he is going to be out with, hopefully, a new manager coming in. How many good games has he had? How often has he played in a side that is capable of springing the trap and releasing him 1 on 1 on a fullback? When we do that he is unplayable. Trouble is his game involves sitting out wide almost level with the opponents back four which does not make for coming back and defending. A problem Frankie had with him as he struggled with and overall poor team that was therefore required to defend. I would love to think we can get a manager in that can develope our midfield to such and extent we can have Jeff sitting out wide. He is devastating in such circumstances and could easily be our saviour in the run in. I am sure Llorente would appreciate it.
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You have mission in life to hold out your hand,
To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
Stan Ridgway
Normally a stick up for Montero, but I wouldn't say it's Taylor's fault he has been poor this season. Not really sure of a way to put it, but West Brom away this year was one of the thickest performances of a footballer I have seen. All the pace in the world, but refuses to take the ball anywhere other than to feet, even though a simple clip in behind was always on, which Taylor was screaming for him to make the run may I add.
Still though, wouldn't be selling him in January, still the only winger who can put a decent cross in the box at the club, even though he doesn't do it nowhere near enough. That's how bad we are on the flanks.
Not saying Montero is blameless as he was terrible a couple of games back, but I think we should be more protective of one of the only true threats in our side. He needs to play in front of a solid defence and have a manager who knows how to deal with him. On his day he can make any fullback in the league look silly. Shame he is out.
He can be unplayable and one of our few creative players these days.
Personally I don't think having Taylor behind him helps. Taylor doesn't do his job properly and takes it out on Montero, screaming at him often. Montero spends the game looking miserable and barely even celebrates when he put in the assist/cross for a goal. Strengthening our back four should improve the confidence of our midfield/attack too.
You can' say what you want about Taylor, but it's not his fault Montero hasn't learnt positional awareness, how to pass or shoot yet.
You can' say what you want about Taylor, but it's not his fault Montero hasn't learnt positional awareness, how to pass or shoot yet.
He's clearly very capable...just hasn't been doing it anytime recently for whatever reason:
To me he looks very unhappy here right now. I think it was against Palace that he put in the cross for Llorente to score, Llorents went up to him to celebrate and he didn't want any of it.
You can' say what you want about Taylor, but it's not his fault Montero hasn't learnt positional awareness, how to pass or shoot yet.
Nice to disagree with you a bit. ;-) I don't think Montero is quite as bad as that. You raise a very valid point though. A good manager will recognise the weaknesses in side and ensure that players likely to struggle get adequate cover. I can see Rangel, Taylor and Knaughton improving under a decent coach. Frankie was a goodun and Bob wasn't. Let's hope the new guy is.
You have mission in life to hold out your hand,
To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
Stan Ridgway
He's clearly very capable...just hasn't been doing it anytime recently for whatever reason:
To me he looks very unhappy here right now. I think it was against Palace that he put in the cross for Llorente to score, Llorents went up to him to celebrate and he didn't want any of it.
That was 3 years ago in the Mexican league Dean. It's akin to the Bob beat Spain in 2009 argument
Nice to disagree with you a bit. ;-) I don't think Montero is quite as bad as that. You raise a very valid point though. A good manager will recognise the weaknesses in side and ensure that players likely to struggle get adequate cover. I can see Rangel, Taylor and Knaughton improving under a decent coach. Frankie was a goodun and Bob wasn't. Let's hope the new guy is.
Rangel and Taylor don't have the pace to cope well in the PL anymore. You can't coach pace...they're constantly too slow and being turned inside out.
Rangel and Taylor don't have the pace to cope well in the PL anymore. You can't coach pace...they're constantly too slow and being turned inside out.
I could be wrong here, but I'm sure Taylor was up there with the quickest at the club at one stage, in terms of times etc. His injury has taken its toll on Neil big time I reckon. Awful these days.
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