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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each 18:43 - Apr 30 with 2184 viewsGowerjack

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 18:46 - Apr 30 with 1698 viewsjack247

No. There should just be a video ref like there is in rugby. No need for appeals, refs can just defer to them when they aren't certain. Swarbrick looked like he was looking for help from his linesman today. It didn't come so the plank just guessed.
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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 18:50 - Apr 30 with 1691 viewsGowerjack

But by putting the onus on the team to request a review does away with one of the main objections to video refs that there would be too many interruptions.

Works well in tennis.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:04 - Apr 30 with 1661 viewsCooperman

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 18:46 - Apr 30 by jack247

No. There should just be a video ref like there is in rugby. No need for appeals, refs can just defer to them when they aren't certain. Swarbrick looked like he was looking for help from his linesman today. It didn't come so the plank just guessed.


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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:05 - Apr 30 with 1661 viewsjack247

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 18:50 - Apr 30 by Gowerjack

But by putting the onus on the team to request a review does away with one of the main objections to video refs that there would be too many interruptions.

Works well in tennis.


The other system works well in rugby, which is a much more comparable sport..
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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:07 - Apr 30 with 1655 viewsexiledclaseboy

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:05 - Apr 30 by jack247

The other system works well in rugby, which is a much more comparable sport..


I agree with both your posts. I know feck all about rugby but if there's to be a referral system it should be the refs call to use it. The tennis comparison doesn't work cos it's only line calls it's needed for.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:17 - Apr 30 with 1623 viewsbuilthjack

If we had honest officials who didn't favour the big clubs there would be no need for video refs.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:41 - Apr 30 with 1585 viewsHighjack

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 18:46 - Apr 30 by jack247

No. There should just be a video ref like there is in rugby. No need for appeals, refs can just defer to them when they aren't certain. Swarbrick looked like he was looking for help from his linesman today. It didn't come so the plank just guessed.


We don't want a situation like rugby where every minor decision is given to the VT official resulting in a lot of stoppages.

Also I'm not sure how it would work for example say if there is an alleged handball in the box, but the play continues, would the ref stop the game and check or would the game play on until the ball went dead before checking?

There's a lot of issues to be ironed out.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:46 - Apr 30 with 1572 viewsCooperman

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:41 - Apr 30 by Highjack

We don't want a situation like rugby where every minor decision is given to the VT official resulting in a lot of stoppages.

Also I'm not sure how it would work for example say if there is an alleged handball in the box, but the play continues, would the ref stop the game and check or would the game play on until the ball went dead before checking?

There's a lot of issues to be ironed out.


Rugby isn't like that though.

And to answer your second point, if the play led to a goal within a short period of time or when the opposition didn't regain control of the ball then check the replay. If not play on.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:47 - Apr 30 with 1567 viewsJackfath

Why can the 4th official (or the 5th, 6th) be linked to the ref as the assistants are now. Clearly there was an issue today. Either a pen, or a booking for diving. The ref blows his whistle, the other officials watch it back and then give the outcome.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:58 - Apr 30 with 1541 viewsjack247

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:41 - Apr 30 by Highjack

We don't want a situation like rugby where every minor decision is given to the VT official resulting in a lot of stoppages.

Also I'm not sure how it would work for example say if there is an alleged handball in the box, but the play continues, would the ref stop the game and check or would the game play on until the ball went dead before checking?

There's a lot of issues to be ironed out.


The vast majority of decisions in rugby are still made by the ref. The video ref tends to come in to play if he isn't sure if a try should be awarded, where there is card worthy foul or something happens off the ball.

You would probably need less of it in football, because there is less the ref can't see. No need for replays to decide whose throw in it is. Penalty decisions and heavy tackles would be the main scenarios I'd guess.
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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 20:00 - Apr 30 with 1536 viewsheadcleaner

refs are arrogant and would never ask for a referral in favour of the swans like today. if it was the other way around he might have called for one because they are certainly there to favour the bigger clubs.

there was no way the ref was certain today much like the idiot against Burnley. I know we should have beaten Hull and dropping points to boro and a few other stinkers but that decision today could be the difference with us losing millions in relegation - staff getting sacked as a result of relegation - livelihoods being lost - if we go down by a point then there it is. Swarbrick guessing costs.

video ref for decisions like that and some offsides has to happen too many times this season have massive mistakes been made. the marginal ones people arent complaining about but the last few weeks have seen some howlers.
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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 20:05 - Apr 30 with 1520 viewsCooperman

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:47 - Apr 30 by Jackfath

Why can the 4th official (or the 5th, 6th) be linked to the ref as the assistants are now. Clearly there was an issue today. Either a pen, or a booking for diving. The ref blows his whistle, the other officials watch it back and then give the outcome.


In its simplest terms that is absolutley it.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 20:07 - Apr 30 with 1511 viewsjack247

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 20:00 - Apr 30 by headcleaner

refs are arrogant and would never ask for a referral in favour of the swans like today. if it was the other way around he might have called for one because they are certainly there to favour the bigger clubs.

there was no way the ref was certain today much like the idiot against Burnley. I know we should have beaten Hull and dropping points to boro and a few other stinkers but that decision today could be the difference with us losing millions in relegation - staff getting sacked as a result of relegation - livelihoods being lost - if we go down by a point then there it is. Swarbrick guessing costs.

video ref for decisions like that and some offsides has to happen too many times this season have massive mistakes been made. the marginal ones people arent complaining about but the last few weeks have seen some howlers.


He absolutely would have called it. He was almost begging for the linesman to dig him out of the hole. He simply didn't know.

If there was a video ref, the actual ref chose to ignore him and gave a penalty like that, he would be completely slaughtered.

I think the main reason we don't have them, much like we don't have top 3 and FA cup winners in the Champions League, is the big clubs don't want it. Would cut down on incidents that go for them but not the smaller teams. Today being a perfect example.
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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 20:11 - Apr 30 with 1493 viewsplasjack

How many decisions are split second, refs are only like us, humans, technology has no emotions.
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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 20:30 - Apr 30 with 1449 viewsSwansNZ

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 20:07 - Apr 30 by jack247

He absolutely would have called it. He was almost begging for the linesman to dig him out of the hole. He simply didn't know.

If there was a video ref, the actual ref chose to ignore him and gave a penalty like that, he would be completely slaughtered.

I think the main reason we don't have them, much like we don't have top 3 and FA cup winners in the Champions League, is the big clubs don't want it. Would cut down on incidents that go for them but not the smaller teams. Today being a perfect example.


Agree with all your posts.

Football is so stuck in the last century (or the one before), it’s almost unreal. Nearly all the other major sports use video technology, no reason for football not to, except the big teams would not get these favourable calls, they’d get the correct calls, same as every other team.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 21:34 - Apr 30 with 1365 viewsTNT

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 19:04 - Apr 30 by Cooperman

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 21:40 - Apr 30 with 1346 viewsNirvana

There should just be a video referee whose sole purpose is to sit in a truck or whatever with every camera angle available and override every bad call. It could get tedious with fouls and that may need more specifics, but realistically speaking there aren't many blown calls throughout most matches. The ones that are, though, are generally important.

As much time as there is wasted by players faking injuries and goal celebrations, this should not be something looked upon as slowing down the game. Technology has made it clear in slow-motion and high-definition when referees ffukk up and this is the only way to remedy that.
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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 21:49 - Apr 30 with 1334 viewsTNT

The one current vote against must be Dwight!

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 01:04 - May 1 with 1258 viewsGowerjack

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 21:49 - Apr 30 by TNT

The one current vote against must be Dwight!


Not Judging by his reply earlier in the thread.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 02:14 - May 1 with 1217 viewsphact0rri

Before video, this pressuring refree's and players huddling around them, blocking his ability to communicate with the rest of his staff needs to be cut out. Its sickening the way that players can essentially gather, and threaten and pressure a referee into making a decision.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 09:55 - May 1 with 1107 viewsDewi1jack

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 02:14 - May 1 by phact0rri

Before video, this pressuring refree's and players huddling around them, blocking his ability to communicate with the rest of his staff needs to be cut out. Its sickening the way that players can essentially gather, and threaten and pressure a referee into making a decision.


And the worst offenders for this type of behaviour are...
All the clubs at the top of the division (Chelsea, Utd, City etc)
The same ones who'd be against video referrals because they'd lose quite a few penalties a season.

Strict Captain and player committing the foul as well as the opposing captain and player who has been fouled being the only ones allowed to talk to the ref. In other words a maximum of 4 people- anyone else automatic booking.

Video referrals for penalty, possible offside goals and sending off decisions only.
Possibly for the 2nd yellow card or if there is some doubt the right player is being booked/ red carded.
Teams to appeal for the TV ref to intervene with a maximum of 2 wrongful appeals a game.

TV ref to inform the ref immediately of "simulation" no matter where on the pitch, even if the ref misses it, ignores it or gets conned by it.
Diving, cheating tw@ to get an immediate automatic booking, with the possibility of an extended retrospective ban
In fact, if the TV ref was watching the whole game with access to every angle (as Sky pundits have) we may be able to eradicate cheating from the game.
Certainly the likes of Fellaini, Barton, Adam, Shawcross etc who like to commit fouls off the ball, would be caught quicker.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 09:59 - May 1 with 1095 viewsperchrockjack

Captain only to approach ref

Video decision final


Any player showing dissent given ten minute in bin


Easily implemented


So why not done already


Big clubs would be affected more ,without doubt

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 14:39 - May 1 with 1028 viewsStarsky

Just get Paul Merson and a video monitor to advise the refs.
That'll fix everything lol

It's just the internet, init.

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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 15:51 - May 1 with 997 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 09:55 - May 1 by Dewi1jack

And the worst offenders for this type of behaviour are...
All the clubs at the top of the division (Chelsea, Utd, City etc)
The same ones who'd be against video referrals because they'd lose quite a few penalties a season.

Strict Captain and player committing the foul as well as the opposing captain and player who has been fouled being the only ones allowed to talk to the ref. In other words a maximum of 4 people- anyone else automatic booking.

Video referrals for penalty, possible offside goals and sending off decisions only.
Possibly for the 2nd yellow card or if there is some doubt the right player is being booked/ red carded.
Teams to appeal for the TV ref to intervene with a maximum of 2 wrongful appeals a game.

TV ref to inform the ref immediately of "simulation" no matter where on the pitch, even if the ref misses it, ignores it or gets conned by it.
Diving, cheating tw@ to get an immediate automatic booking, with the possibility of an extended retrospective ban
In fact, if the TV ref was watching the whole game with access to every angle (as Sky pundits have) we may be able to eradicate cheating from the game.
Certainly the likes of Fellaini, Barton, Adam, Shawcross etc who like to commit fouls off the ball, would be caught quicker.


One tv ref cannot watch "the whole game" because while he is reviewing a foul etc in general play, play is continuing and he could be missing even more concerning issues.
So you need a few tv "reviewers" to pick up these items while the game is played.
But you can't leave it up to the on field Ref only to call for a review as some of them think that they are never wrong and would therefore never call for anything to be reviewed.
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Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 15:55 - May 1 with 992 viewsjack247

Should there be a video referee in top flight football - 1 appeal per half each on 15:51 - May 1 by A_Fans_Dad

One tv ref cannot watch "the whole game" because while he is reviewing a foul etc in general play, play is continuing and he could be missing even more concerning issues.
So you need a few tv "reviewers" to pick up these items while the game is played.
But you can't leave it up to the on field Ref only to call for a review as some of them think that they are never wrong and would therefore never call for anything to be reviewed.


They would. If this was an option, they wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt with dubious calls. No ref would risk the kind of decision Swarbrick made against us in that scenario.

All you need is for the ref to refer at his own discretion, which I guarantee he would, then the TV ref to just review the incident in question. They don't have to watch the whole game.
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