Daniel James to Shrewsbury 18:37 - Jun 30 with 2503 views | Groo | Season long loan. Hope he does well | |
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Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 20:50 - Jun 30 with 2419 views | Kilkennyjack | Great news | |
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Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 00:15 - Jul 1 with 2235 views | Loyal | Should be first team squad. | |
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Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 06:49 - Jul 1 with 2177 views | Kilkennyjack |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 00:15 - Jul 1 by Loyal | Should be first team squad. |
Needs to play for me. Dont let him rot in the u27's, or on the bench. See Grimes - went backwards. | |
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Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 07:30 - Jul 1 with 2150 views | EasternJack | Was hoping to see him on our bench this season. Oh well.... | |
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Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 16:55 - Jul 1 with 2042 views | swan65split | and we kept Montero?!!! | | | |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 06:19 - Jul 2 with 1889 views | Dr_Winston |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 16:55 - Jul 1 by swan65split | and we kept Montero?!!! |
Window ain't closed yet. Big step up from the kiddies league anyway. No guarantees that James would fare any better than Montero. Suspect a loan until Christmas so if he shines we can recall him or loan him out to a higher level would have been better though. | |
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Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 18:03 - Jul 2 with 1757 views | A_Fans_Dad | All those saying it is good news or a good idea are assuming that he will actually get to play. You do know they already have shedsloads of Wingers? We know he would play for the under 23s which will include the CheckaTrade trophy again, sdo I am not so sure it is a good thing, especially as he could have played with the First Team in the Pre Season games. | | | |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 20:12 - Jul 3 with 1615 views | Nirvana |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 18:03 - Jul 2 by A_Fans_Dad | All those saying it is good news or a good idea are assuming that he will actually get to play. You do know they already have shedsloads of Wingers? We know he would play for the under 23s which will include the CheckaTrade trophy again, sdo I am not so sure it is a good thing, especially as he could have played with the First Team in the Pre Season games. |
My thoughts exactly, Fans Dad. Shrewsbury is an absolutely beauitful little town, but I don't know sshitt about the club. I'm hoping James will be first-team all season. Knowing how these deals generally transpire, though, that's not likely. We really should have kept him, at least until after pre-season, so we could assess him in actual games. If he played well, we either keep him or he goes to a Championship club. Plays poorly, we send him to somewhere like Shrewsbury. I hope the best for him this season, but he has been poorly managed so far. Should've been given a chance in a Swans kit this summer before a loan move. Ah well, it's Jenkins we're talking about. | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 21:02 - Jul 3 with 1574 views | jasper_T |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 20:12 - Jul 3 by Nirvana | My thoughts exactly, Fans Dad. Shrewsbury is an absolutely beauitful little town, but I don't know sshitt about the club. I'm hoping James will be first-team all season. Knowing how these deals generally transpire, though, that's not likely. We really should have kept him, at least until after pre-season, so we could assess him in actual games. If he played well, we either keep him or he goes to a Championship club. Plays poorly, we send him to somewhere like Shrewsbury. I hope the best for him this season, but he has been poorly managed so far. Should've been given a chance in a Swans kit this summer before a loan move. Ah well, it's Jenkins we're talking about. |
But if he doesn't get a pre-season with the loaning club he's less likely to get straight into their team. What Championship side is going to put an untested teenager into the team if he just arrives on the Saturday morning with his boots? | | | |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 21:22 - Jul 3 with 1547 views | Nirvana |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 21:02 - Jul 3 by jasper_T | But if he doesn't get a pre-season with the loaning club he's less likely to get straight into their team. What Championship side is going to put an untested teenager into the team if he just arrives on the Saturday morning with his boots? |
Not sure, but if James impresses during a pre-season with a midtable PL club I would imagine there would be plenty of options available to him. He then works with his agent and us, and he's off to whoever guarantees him playing time and has a stable organization. I don't know anything about Shrewsbury, to be honest, but he should probably be walking into their XI regardless of a pre-season or not. We have been a PL club for awhile now. They are L1. Our youngsters should be excelling at that level, and playing every week bare minimum. Otherwise, we should follow Klopp's lead and keep our best prospects in-house, until they can accomplish what I said in the paragraph above. | | | |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 21:54 - Jul 3 with 1514 views | jasper_T | Our academy players don't automatically get better just because we're a PL team. The ones we buy for £72k probably do, though. The majority of academy players at PL clubs won't go on to have a professional career at Football League level. Sheer numbers alone mean that teams like Shrewsbury already have the Dan James's of five years ago playing for them, as senior professionals (clicking through their wikipedia squad list you see Birmingham, Bolton, Man City, Basel academies in just the first few). Dan is a good player and a full season of senior football is just what he needs. | | | |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 22:10 - Jul 3 with 1491 views | Nirvana |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 21:54 - Jul 3 by jasper_T | Our academy players don't automatically get better just because we're a PL team. The ones we buy for £72k probably do, though. The majority of academy players at PL clubs won't go on to have a professional career at Football League level. Sheer numbers alone mean that teams like Shrewsbury already have the Dan James's of five years ago playing for them, as senior professionals (clicking through their wikipedia squad list you see Birmingham, Bolton, Man City, Basel academies in just the first few). Dan is a good player and a full season of senior football is just what he needs. |
I agree with the overall point, Jasper. But all that time and money put into Landore and whatnot should really be producing results. Better resources and money = better footballers. That's pretty much what it always comes down to, with everything in life. I agree it's not a science and you can't turn sshitt into diamonds, my words. But, being a PL club means better EVERYTHING because of the massive increase in money. Expecting us to have better youth players and contacts than before 2011 isn't asking too much, in my opinion. Ultimately, though, it doesn't matter. Dan is off to Shrewsbury, and I wish him the best of luck. | | | |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 23:20 - Jul 3 with 1442 views | jasper_T |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 22:10 - Jul 3 by Nirvana | I agree with the overall point, Jasper. But all that time and money put into Landore and whatnot should really be producing results. Better resources and money = better footballers. That's pretty much what it always comes down to, with everything in life. I agree it's not a science and you can't turn sshitt into diamonds, my words. But, being a PL club means better EVERYTHING because of the massive increase in money. Expecting us to have better youth players and contacts than before 2011 isn't asking too much, in my opinion. Ultimately, though, it doesn't matter. Dan is off to Shrewsbury, and I wish him the best of luck. |
A lot of the youth players coming through to the u23s now would have started at the club a while before 2011. They start them young. As disheartening as it may seem, our youth players regularly getting loan deals to Football League clubs is "producing results". Not too long ago all but a few notable names would wander into the league of Wales and never be heard from again. We're still waiting on the next Joe or Ben, but the clubs spending millions on their 16 year olds don't find one of them consistently either. | | | |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 23:43 - Jul 3 with 1416 views | Nirvana |
Daniel James to Shrewsbury on 23:20 - Jul 3 by jasper_T | A lot of the youth players coming through to the u23s now would have started at the club a while before 2011. They start them young. As disheartening as it may seem, our youth players regularly getting loan deals to Football League clubs is "producing results". Not too long ago all but a few notable names would wander into the league of Wales and never be heard from again. We're still waiting on the next Joe or Ben, but the clubs spending millions on their 16 year olds don't find one of them consistently either. |
Great post Jasper, and I agree with you. Perspective is necessary in all walks of life, and especially with football. We have come a long way in just a short period of time and that cannot be forgotten, especially in regards to our youth setup. Excellent points. But James was brought in from Hull not too long ago, right? So, he's not a local boy. On talent, he should be able to walk into Shrewsbury's XI, no problem. Otherwise, we should never have gotten him in the first place. My opinion, of course, and I respect you for having yours. C'est la vie! | | | |
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