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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! 08:02 - Jul 20 with 3967 viewsYossarian

Chris Grayling has announced that there will be no electrification beyond Cardiff. This clearly puts West Wales at a serious disadvantage in terms of ongoing investment. Is this payback for not 'Going Blue' at the General Election?

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 08:06 - Jul 20 with 3167 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Sure is why invest money in a Labour stronghold. Let the WA fund it.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 08:36 - Jul 20 with 3131 viewsSPboy

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 08:06 - Jul 20 by felixstowe_jack

Sure is why invest money in a Labour stronghold. Let the WA fund it.


Indeed why shouldn't the WAG fund it ? ... oh wait a minute there will be no benefit to the capital will there & it may impact construction funding for project Cardiff
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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 08:38 - Jul 20 with 3127 viewspikeypaul

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 08:36 - Jul 20 by SPboy

Indeed why shouldn't the WAG fund it ? ... oh wait a minute there will be no benefit to the capital will there & it may impact construction funding for project Cardiff


Is the correct answer.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 09:31 - Jul 20 with 3076 views1983

Oh the Irony
You honestly couldn't make it up could you!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-40654763


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(No subject) (n/t) on 09:33 - Jul 20 with 3069 views1983



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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 10:07 - Jul 20 with 3034 viewsjohnlangy

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 08:36 - Jul 20 by SPboy

Indeed why shouldn't the WAG fund it ? ... oh wait a minute there will be no benefit to the capital will there & it may impact construction funding for project Cardiff


It's Network Rail investment. Network Rail covers the UK hence they pay for infrastructure improvements whether that be in Wales or anywhere.

I have massive disrespect for the WAG but why should we pay out of the Welsh budget for something that is a 'UK' investment.
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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 10:38 - Jul 20 with 3012 views1983

WAG heavily funds the Central of Wales from Llanelli to Cravern Arms and it would have closed years ago if it wasn't for them


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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 10:54 - Jul 20 with 2997 viewsPrivate_Partz

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 10:38 - Jul 20 by 1983

WAG heavily funds the Central of Wales from Llanelli to Cravern Arms and it would have closed years ago if it wasn't for them


That is joke surely? If so please shove a smiley at the end of it.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 11:45 - Jul 20 with 2952 views1983

Nope one of the first things in Wales Network Rail wanted to do as it doesn't make one penny, but the assembly wanted it kept open so they/we have to pay for it, that train service is no good to anyone its about one train one way about every 2/3hrs


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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 12:00 - Jul 20 with 2936 viewsPrivate_Partz

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 11:45 - Jul 20 by 1983

Nope one of the first things in Wales Network Rail wanted to do as it doesn't make one penny, but the assembly wanted it kept open so they/we have to pay for it, that train service is no good to anyone its about one train one way about every 2/3hrs


Wow, just wow. They should he doing a damn site more than subsidising it. They should be investing or promoting a real north south Wales rail link. Not to mention a motorway. Talk about feeding off crumbs.......

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 14:45 - Jul 20 with 2803 viewsPozuelosSideys

Does this mean delays or changing trains at Cardiff when travelling from London to Swansea? Dont imagine its as easy as just flicking a switch in 2 seconds?

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 15:00 - Jul 20 with 2786 viewsswanjackal

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 14:45 - Jul 20 by PozuelosSideys

Does this mean delays or changing trains at Cardiff when travelling from London to Swansea? Dont imagine its as easy as just flicking a switch in 2 seconds?


Actually, they have promised that people arriving at Swansea will have the advantage of arriving before they set out from London etc.

With the new technology on these trains, once they reach the end of the electrification, and 88mph is hit, the trains flux capacitor does the rest.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 15:04 - Jul 20 with 2775 viewsPozuelosSideys

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 15:00 - Jul 20 by swanjackal

Actually, they have promised that people arriving at Swansea will have the advantage of arriving before they set out from London etc.

With the new technology on these trains, once they reach the end of the electrification, and 88mph is hit, the trains flux capacitor does the rest.


Now THAT i would pay the extortionate fees for!

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 16:56 - Jul 20 with 2697 viewsLohengrin

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 11:45 - Jul 20 by 1983

Nope one of the first things in Wales Network Rail wanted to do as it doesn't make one penny, but the assembly wanted it kept open so they/we have to pay for it, that train service is no good to anyone its about one train one way about every 2/3hrs


You're talking about The Heart of Wales Line between Swansea and Shrewsbury. It could be better, like most everything else, but it's an absolute joy to ride in the Summer months and an essential rural transport link all-year-round.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 18:47 - Jul 20 with 2595 viewsKilkennyjack

Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood tweeted: "Wales gets 1% of rail investment despite making up 6% of the UK network. And now this."

Come on Carwyn mun, kick off big time !!

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 18:58 - Jul 20 with 2565 viewsBrynmill_Jack

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 18:47 - Jul 20 by Kilkennyjack

Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood tweeted: "Wales gets 1% of rail investment despite making up 6% of the UK network. And now this."

Come on Carwyn mun, kick off big time !!


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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 19:11 - Jul 20 with 2554 viewsexiledclaseboy

The whole of HS2 is a monumental and continuing f*ck up that will never pay for itself in a million years.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 19:28 - Jul 20 with 2531 viewsploppy

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 19:11 - Jul 20 by exiledclaseboy

The whole of HS2 is a monumental and continuing f*ck up that will never pay for itself in a million years.


But, but, but, but - it'll reduce the journey time from London to Glasgow by 30mins!

Nah, you're right.
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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 20:37 - Jul 20 with 2454 viewsjack2jack

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 20:50 - Jul 20 with 2430 viewsJack_Meoff

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 19:11 - Jul 20 by exiledclaseboy

The whole of HS2 is a monumental and continuing f*ck up that will never pay for itself in a million years.


Just imagine the cash that can be siphoned off in outsourced contracts to private firms and their shareholders though. Lovely.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 20:52 - Jul 20 with 2429 viewsKilkennyjack

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 18:58 - Jul 20 by Brynmill_Jack

President Jones to you boy!


President Carwyn Jones should do the correct thing and go on a hunger strike to deliver this for Swansea - the fat fecker.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 20:59 - Jul 20 with 2421 viewsPrivate_Partz

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 18:47 - Jul 20 by Kilkennyjack

Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood tweeted: "Wales gets 1% of rail investment despite making up 6% of the UK network. And now this."

Come on Carwyn mun, kick off big time !!


Imagine what Carwyn would do for Cardiff with 6% of the HS2 budget.
It would be an exciting prospect if such funds were in the hands of an Assembley that actually gave a sh!t about the rest of Wales.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 21:12 - Jul 20 with 2399 viewsJonathans_coat

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 09:31 - Jul 20 by 1983

Oh the Irony
You honestly couldn't make it up could you!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-40654763


Some more "irony" announced on the same day.

Another kick in the nuts for all Wales west of Cardiff Bay. But it's okay, Chris Grayling loves it.....the koont!

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 21:23 - Jul 20 with 2385 viewsDr_Winston

When the "Welsh Goverment" doesn't give a shit about anything further West or North than Cardiff then why would anyone expect the one in Westminster to do otherwise?

The power to change that lies in your hands. If every MP or AM in Wales was in genuine fear of losing their slot at the trough come the next election then things would change.

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No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 21:23 - Jul 20 with 2382 viewsPozuelosSideys

No Electrification beyond Cardiff! on 20:59 - Jul 20 by Private_Partz

Imagine what Carwyn would do for Cardiff with 6% of the HS2 budget.
It would be an exciting prospect if such funds were in the hands of an Assembley that actually gave a sh!t about the rest of Wales.


Yay! Cable cars to work between Leckwith and Splott for all!

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