| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... 18:48 - Jul 21 with 9736 views | E20Jack |
Looks like our valuation is stopping the deal.
Surely that is essentially a "not for sale" statement rather thana genuine valuation, as nobody is going to pay £30 million for Llorente. |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 18:53 - Jul 21 with 7170 views | LeonWasGod |
You'd think so, but there seem to be some idiot owners/chairmen around at the moment. |  | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 18:57 - Jul 21 with 7117 views | jackjackjackjack |
This is all good, but a club like ours survives as a stepping stone to the larger clubs. When we refuse to sell players on, when they want to leave, it's going to upset the dynamic in the changing room, and make us less appealing to a player who aspires to be at "Champions League" level. |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:00 - Jul 21 with 7087 views | PozuelosSideys |
"Come get him" |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:08 - Jul 21 with 7007 views | LeonWasGod |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 18:57 - Jul 21 by jackjackjackjack |
This is all good, but a club like ours survives as a stepping stone to the larger clubs. When we refuse to sell players on, when they want to leave, it's going to upset the dynamic in the changing room, and make us less appealing to a player who aspires to be at "Champions League" level. |
Interesting point. I was thinking it could cause problems because our finances rely on us selling big every couple of seasons or so. I hadn't thought it could be seen as a block to progress. I suppose it could be for certain players (e.g. Ayew). | | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:22 - Jul 21 with 6889 views | Borojack |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:08 - Jul 21 by LeonWasGod |
Interesting point. I was thinking it could cause problems because our finances rely on us selling big every couple of seasons or so. I hadn't thought it could be seen as a block to progress. I suppose it could be for certain players (e.g. Ayew). |
Yes it's an interesting one but we want players signing for the right reasons.
Nobody forces them to sign contracts for 70k plus a week.
Tough life being a PL footballer. |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:24 - Jul 21 with 6855 views | monmouth |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:00 - Jul 21 by PozuelosSideys |
"Come get him" |
Yes, agreed, we'd take 20m, maybe a fair bit less like a shot. But I'm liking this aggressive public stance. |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:24 - Jul 21 with 6851 views | Bournedore |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 18:57 - Jul 21 by jackjackjackjack |
This is all good, but a club like ours survives as a stepping stone to the larger clubs. When we refuse to sell players on, when they want to leave, it's going to upset the dynamic in the changing room, and make us less appealing to a player who aspires to be at "Champions League" level. |
We're damned if we do, damned if we don't... |  | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:28 - Jul 21 with 6798 views | Borojack |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:24 - Jul 21 by Bournedore |
We're damned if we do, damned if we don't... |
About time we started getting the going rate for our players.
30 million is loose change to a Roman can sell a small yacht if he needs a few quid. | |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:28 - Jul 21 with 6796 views | 3swan |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:24 - Jul 21 by monmouth |
Yes, agreed, we'd take 20m, maybe a fair bit less like a shot. But I'm liking this aggressive public stance. |
Is it an aggressive stance, or unsupported comment?
I'm sure it would go down well with Chelsea after we take a player on loan from them | | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:37 - Jul 21 with 6696 views | jack247 |
He's got a year left and was dropping hints about leaving not long ago. I'm all for playing this game with Siggy, but not convinced it's the way to go with Llorente. Wouldn't want him seeing his contract out and going for free. | | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:43 - Jul 21 with 6620 views | Swanjaxs |
I have it on good authority that Reading pulled the plug on the Barrow deal when they heard of our £25 million valuation 😮 |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:49 - Jul 21 with 6548 views | Flashberryjack |
F*ck me ! there's no pleasing some people, for years we've been moaning that we sell players to cheaply, now some are moaning that we're asking to much. |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:50 - Jul 21 with 6526 views | oldcob |
No doubt Chelsea will bear this in mind if we negotiate loan/buy for Tammy Abraham next season. We could end up shooting ourselves in the foot. | | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:51 - Jul 21 with 6523 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:43 - Jul 21 by Swanjaxs |
I have it on good authority that Reading pulled the plug on the Barrow deal when they heard of our £25 million valuation 😮 |
Reading pulled out of the deal when the found out how much we are paying the idiot. |  | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:53 - Jul 21 with 6487 views | LeonWasGod |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:22 - Jul 21 by Borojack |
Yes it's an interesting one but we want players signing for the right reasons.
Nobody forces them to sign contracts for 70k plus a week.
Tough life being a PL footballer. |
Yes, but if we could capture a top top player who fully committed to us for only a year and then moved on to get CL football... I'd take that as long as he made a difference to us. | | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 20:03 - Jul 21 with 6358 views | Borojack |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:53 - Jul 21 by LeonWasGod |
Yes, but if we could capture a top top player who fully committed to us for only a year and then moved on to get CL football... I'd take that as long as he made a difference to us. |
Yes true but it works both ways the player could turn out to be gash and we end up being stuck with the wage.
I get what your saying but there needs to be a happy medium don't want to put really low release clauses into players contracts that could cost the club millions. | |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 20:14 - Jul 21 with 6253 views | andypitt56 |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 20:03 - Jul 21 by Borojack |
Yes true but it works both ways the player could turn out to be gash and we end up being stuck with the wage.
I get what your saying but there needs to be a happy medium don't want to put really low release clauses into players contracts that could cost the club millions. |
If this is true you have to hand it to the mericans they dont back down... Old huw must be having restless nights knowing clubs want to buy our players for more than 5m. | | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 22:29 - Jul 21 with 5411 views | Rancid |
Again the Americans showing the old guard how to wheel and deal in the big money world of big time football.Llorente and Siggy would have gone by now for a fee of 25m for the 2 if Huw was still controlling the finances. |  | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 22:52 - Jul 21 with 5231 views | Cooperman |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 22:29 - Jul 21 by Rancid |
Again the Americans showing the old guard how to wheel and deal in the big money world of big time football.Llorente and Siggy would have gone by now for a fee of 25m for the 2 if Huw was still controlling the finances. |
Absolutely. We've toughened up considerably in the transfer market.
Definitely being run as a going concern in this area of the club. |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 23:18 - Jul 21 with 5058 views | icecoldjack |
Bottom line here is that if we keep Siggy and Llorente with what we've already signed then we are pretty sure of staying up. Staying up means means £100 m plus .
The point about us being a stepping stone is valid and IMO spot on, it's a fine line but sometimes the club needs to play hard ball and not be a push over, i'm sure the yanks have come to this conclusion pretty quick, sell your best players and this time next year it could be a real struggle and playing in a lower league, a league where teams are spending crazy money and have larger budgets than us in the premier league!
There is a tipping balance, we almost went over it last year with decisions that were reckless and incompetent, it's one thing getting £12m for Ash but you also need to replace correctly,ditto Ayew .
Both valuations IMO are designed to say hands off, we don't know what will happen but i have a feeling both will remain at the Swans, of course it could yet still be another Jenkins smoke and mirrors play , time will tell but on the face of it this seems like smart business by us . |  | | |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 09:04 - Jul 22 with 3887 views | trampie |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 18:57 - Jul 21 by jackjackjackjack |
This is all good, but a club like ours survives as a stepping stone to the larger clubs. When we refuse to sell players on, when they want to leave, it's going to upset the dynamic in the changing room, and make us less appealing to a player who aspires to be at "Champions League" level. |
If we hold aspiring champions league players to their contract if we don't want to sell or ask the going rate if we do want to sell then the Swans by definition will move up the league by keeping their best players until in theory the Swans themselves become a champions league team and then in their own right attract aspiring champions league players.
Either stay a small stepping stone club forever or break the mould. |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 09:20 - Jul 22 with 3769 views | jackjackjackjack |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 09:04 - Jul 22 by trampie |
If we hold aspiring champions league players to their contract if we don't want to sell or ask the going rate if we do want to sell then the Swans by definition will move up the league by keeping their best players until in theory the Swans themselves become a champions league team and then in their own right attract aspiring champions league players.
Either stay a small stepping stone club forever or break the mould. |
Will they want to come here in the first place, if the options are: do well and we won't let you move to a bigger club (and have your wages go from £80,000 to £125,000 a week), do badly and we'll ship you off to a lowly Spanish/French club on loan?
Chelsea aren't able to keep hold of Costa, but they've bought in a replacement, and will probably move Costa on. And Barcelona might not be able to keep hold of Neymar, so all clubs lose players, it's a matter of having good replacements coming through. | |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 09:25 - Jul 22 with 3723 views | ItchySphincter |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 19:43 - Jul 21 by Swanjaxs |
I have it on good authority that Reading pulled the plug on the Barrow deal when they heard of our £25 million valuation 😮 |
They pulled the plug after reading the appraisal of fans on the Swans and Leeds forums. In the end we offered them £1.25M plus Mo Barrow but they turned us down. |  |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 09:28 - Jul 22 with 3694 views | trampie |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 09:20 - Jul 22 by jackjackjackjack |
Will they want to come here in the first place, if the options are: do well and we won't let you move to a bigger club (and have your wages go from £80,000 to £125,000 a week), do badly and we'll ship you off to a lowly Spanish/French club on loan?
Chelsea aren't able to keep hold of Costa, but they've bought in a replacement, and will probably move Costa on. And Barcelona might not be able to keep hold of Neymar, so all clubs lose players, it's a matter of having good replacements coming through. |
Yes they will come here for Premier League football, first team football and the money. | |
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| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 09:55 - Jul 22 with 3513 views | NOTRAC |
| Swansea slap £30 million price tag on Llorente as Chelsea speculation mounts... on 23:18 - Jul 21 by icecoldjack |
Bottom line here is that if we keep Siggy and Llorente with what we've already signed then we are pretty sure of staying up. Staying up means means £100 m plus .
The point about us being a stepping stone is valid and IMO spot on, it's a fine line but sometimes the club needs to play hard ball and not be a push over, i'm sure the yanks have come to this conclusion pretty quick, sell your best players and this time next year it could be a real struggle and playing in a lower league, a league where teams are spending crazy money and have larger budgets than us in the premier league!
There is a tipping balance, we almost went over it last year with decisions that were reckless and incompetent, it's one thing getting £12m for Ash but you also need to replace correctly,ditto Ayew .
Both valuations IMO are designed to say hands off, we don't know what will happen but i have a feeling both will remain at the Swans, of course it could yet still be another Jenkins smoke and mirrors play , time will tell but on the face of it this seems like smart business by us . |
Icecoljack, it would be wonderful if you were right. | |
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